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Craig_Lambrecht
Edited Date/Time 11/1/2014 2:42pm
Hey man. SO, it's a pretty well known fact that you're the go to guy for KTM/Husky stuff so I thought I'd ask for some tips, if you don't mind.

I'm about to pick up a 14 TC250.

Any tips on jetting, suspension, or anything else?
I'm in Phoenix (1k ft above sea level)..if that helps.



I found this thread as well but figured I'd just go straight to the source.
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Race-Shop,42/2014-TC-250-Jetting,1275104


Thanks in advance for your help!!!
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Sixeightone 10/6/2014 11:10am
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Digger helped me out tremendous! I have a 14 tc250 and I love it. Suspension HAS to get done! WP offers a very fine line to get it set up right!! I had to add a little oil to my front forks as I was bottoming real easily and also had to change the springs! Get a bills pipe and silencer combo! Get yourself a V-force 4 setup! You're going to need a 2013 KTM 125/150sx carb. You'll take the 6.5 slide out of the stock 36mm carb, and put it on the new 38mm carb. Get yourself a Suzuki NECJ needle (optional) 2008 Suzuki rm250! Put the needle in the 3rd position from the top! 42 pilot, 175 main! HOLD IT WIDEEEEEE! you'll love that thing!
Craig_Lambrecht 10/6/2014 11:18am
10/6/2014 11:18am
thanks man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really appreciate it!!

Planning to drop it off to my suspension guy before I even ride it.
As far as pipe and stuff, that will have to wait a bit. Planning to jet it, do the suspension, and ride that sucker for now.
But we all know a stock bike doesn't get left stock for long.
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Sixeightone 10/6/2014 12:28pm
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V-force wakes it up a ton!! That would be my first investment!!
swedishfishmx 10/6/2014 12:31pm
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I really like my TC. I just changed the needle to the NECJ one, and changed the clip position. I would like to try the 42 pilot instead of the 45.

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4stroke4DWIN 10/6/2014 12:31pm
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Get back to work Craig lol.
Craig_Lambrecht 10/6/2014 12:37pm
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Sixeightone wrote:
V-force wakes it up a ton!! That would be my first investment!!
even before the carb?

so this order..

suspension
vforce
carb
pipe

Craig_Lambrecht 10/6/2014 12:38pm
10/6/2014 12:38pm
4stroke4DWIN wrote:
Get back to work Craig lol.
haha!!!

I'm not getting anything done today..
trying to find a decent 125 for my chick so I can go get my new bike!! haha

you know the drill! lol

will be needing graphics for both.
AND two of those silencer stickers homie!

If I grab a 125 before Thursday, probably hit Canyon. You down?
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4stroke4DWIN wrote:
Get back to work Craig lol.
Craig_Lambrecht wrote:
haha!!! I'm not getting anything done today.. trying to find a decent 125 for my chick so I can go get my new bike!! haha you...
haha!!!

I'm not getting anything done today..
trying to find a decent 125 for my chick so I can go get my new bike!! haha

you know the drill! lol

will be needing graphics for both.
AND two of those silencer stickers homie!

If I grab a 125 before Thursday, probably hit Canyon. You down?
I tried to race this weekend and even with PODS I couldn't shift, you wouldn't believe how much your knee plays into shifting til it's F'd up. But when your ready for those kits hit me up. You know how to find me lol.
Craig_Lambrecht 10/6/2014 2:00pm
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4stroke4DWIN wrote:
Get back to work Craig lol.
Craig_Lambrecht wrote:
haha!!! I'm not getting anything done today.. trying to find a decent 125 for my chick so I can go get my new bike!! haha you...
haha!!!

I'm not getting anything done today..
trying to find a decent 125 for my chick so I can go get my new bike!! haha

you know the drill! lol

will be needing graphics for both.
AND two of those silencer stickers homie!

If I grab a 125 before Thursday, probably hit Canyon. You down?
4stroke4DWIN wrote:
I tried to race this weekend and even with PODS I couldn't shift, you wouldn't believe how much your knee plays into shifting til it's F'd...
I tried to race this weekend and even with PODS I couldn't shift, you wouldn't believe how much your knee plays into shifting til it's F'd up. But when your ready for those kits hit me up. You know how to find me lol.
DAMN man, that sucks. sorry to hear that!!


and you know I will brotha!

You know when you get your TC, you'll just be copying me, right? Wink
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Craig_Lambrecht wrote:
haha!!! I'm not getting anything done today.. trying to find a decent 125 for my chick so I can go get my new bike!! haha you...
haha!!!

I'm not getting anything done today..
trying to find a decent 125 for my chick so I can go get my new bike!! haha

you know the drill! lol

will be needing graphics for both.
AND two of those silencer stickers homie!

If I grab a 125 before Thursday, probably hit Canyon. You down?
4stroke4DWIN wrote:
I tried to race this weekend and even with PODS I couldn't shift, you wouldn't believe how much your knee plays into shifting til it's F'd...
I tried to race this weekend and even with PODS I couldn't shift, you wouldn't believe how much your knee plays into shifting til it's F'd up. But when your ready for those kits hit me up. You know how to find me lol.
Craig_Lambrecht wrote:
DAMN man, that sucks. sorry to hear that!! and you know I will brotha! You know when you get your TC, you'll just be copying me...
DAMN man, that sucks. sorry to hear that!!


and you know I will brotha!

You know when you get your TC, you'll just be copying me, right? Wink
Different route bro, got a free YZ250 to mob around on. Gonna keep the 125 for the 125 open class and ride the 250 in vet open. It's hard on a 125 against these cats on 450's. I can out turn them but as you know the straights they kill me. Now it's gonna be a level playing field lol.
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Digger29 10/6/2014 2:46pm
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Sixeightone wrote:
Digger helped me out tremendous! I have a 14 tc250 and I love it. Suspension HAS to get done! WP offers a very fine line to...
Digger helped me out tremendous! I have a 14 tc250 and I love it. Suspension HAS to get done! WP offers a very fine line to get it set up right!! I had to add a little oil to my front forks as I was bottoming real easily and also had to change the springs! Get a bills pipe and silencer combo! Get yourself a V-force 4 setup! You're going to need a 2013 KTM 125/150sx carb. You'll take the 6.5 slide out of the stock 36mm carb, and put it on the new 38mm carb. Get yourself a Suzuki NECJ needle (optional) 2008 Suzuki rm250! Put the needle in the 3rd position from the top! 42 pilot, 175 main! HOLD IT WIDEEEEEE! you'll love that thing!
What he said.. :-) I rode his bike and it Fn rips!!

If money were an object and I was doing them in order of importance I would go this way.

1. Suspension. KTM's are the best handling bikes on the track once you get the suspension sorted out.
1A. Jetting. It's super important getting it jetted correctly to get the most out of your bike.
2. V-force. Way better than the V-force 2 copy that KTM is using now.
3 Silencer of your choice. The stock silencer makes almost a 1hp less on the dyno than Bill's that I'm running.
4. Pipe. I love the Bill's and it definitely gives the bike the most top end but they're all good and it's a personal preference thing.
5. 38mm carb from the 125/150SX. Your bike will absolutely rip and seems to rev to moon with the Bill's pipe combo and the 38mm carb.
Craig_Lambrecht 10/6/2014 3:08pm
10/6/2014 3:08pm
Sixeightone wrote:
Digger helped me out tremendous! I have a 14 tc250 and I love it. Suspension HAS to get done! WP offers a very fine line to...
Digger helped me out tremendous! I have a 14 tc250 and I love it. Suspension HAS to get done! WP offers a very fine line to get it set up right!! I had to add a little oil to my front forks as I was bottoming real easily and also had to change the springs! Get a bills pipe and silencer combo! Get yourself a V-force 4 setup! You're going to need a 2013 KTM 125/150sx carb. You'll take the 6.5 slide out of the stock 36mm carb, and put it on the new 38mm carb. Get yourself a Suzuki NECJ needle (optional) 2008 Suzuki rm250! Put the needle in the 3rd position from the top! 42 pilot, 175 main! HOLD IT WIDEEEEEE! you'll love that thing!
Digger29 wrote:
What he said.. :-) I rode his bike and it Fn rips!! If money were an object and I was doing them in order of importance...
What he said.. :-) I rode his bike and it Fn rips!!

If money were an object and I was doing them in order of importance I would go this way.

1. Suspension. KTM's are the best handling bikes on the track once you get the suspension sorted out.
1A. Jetting. It's super important getting it jetted correctly to get the most out of your bike.
2. V-force. Way better than the V-force 2 copy that KTM is using now.
3 Silencer of your choice. The stock silencer makes almost a 1hp less on the dyno than Bill's that I'm running.
4. Pipe. I love the Bill's and it definitely gives the bike the most top end but they're all good and it's a personal preference thing.
5. 38mm carb from the 125/150SX. Your bike will absolutely rip and seems to rev to moon with the Bill's pipe combo and the 38mm carb.
you're the man!!!
I appreciate it!
I figure I should do my homework ahead of time so I'm ready to rock.

thanks again!!
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I have a 2014 TC250. 175#, mid-pack 450 novice ....I like the suspension better than the stock yz450 I had. It does require some break in to get it there though. I am in Apple Valley CA 2200' and race at Glen Helen 1800'. The stock carb with a 160, 40 pilot, stock needle on 3rd clip and it has more power throughout than i can use. Very clean running bike. If I were to change the suspension I would use Earl Shuler Racing in Hesperia, CA, he definitely has the hot set up for all WP suspension.
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KTMShane699 10/7/2014 4:28am
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Digger29 wrote:
What he said.. :-) I rode his bike and it Fn rips!! If money were an object and I was doing them in order of importance...
What he said.. :-) I rode his bike and it Fn rips!!

If money were an object and I was doing them in order of importance I would go this way.

1. Suspension. KTM's are the best handling bikes on the track once you get the suspension sorted out.
1A. Jetting. It's super important getting it jetted correctly to get the most out of your bike.
2. V-force. Way better than the V-force 2 copy that KTM is using now.
3 Silencer of your choice. The stock silencer makes almost a 1hp less on the dyno than Bill's that I'm running.
4. Pipe. I love the Bill's and it definitely gives the bike the most top end but they're all good and it's a personal preference thing.
5. 38mm carb from the 125/150SX. Your bike will absolutely rip and seems to rev to moon with the Bill's pipe combo and the 38mm carb.
I'm disappointed in you digger! Wink you left out to make sure the x and z dimensions are set properly (mine were close, but not exact) and to put the red power valve spring in and set the power valve adjuster to where you like it. Start flush with the cases and move it in until the power is how you like it.

Oh yeah, and jet it.

For the silencer, I'd stick with the longer one. I have a short one, but with the carb set up, I'd rather the long one to let it really rev out better. The short is great for a tight technical track, but anything with speed and the long silencer shines.

Shane
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I liked the shorter silencer on mine and also the softest powervalve spring... was it green or Yellow? Whatever it was that made it come alive soonest, then I could lug it more without the hit. I'm not a revver!
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Has anyone done any tests of the 38mm mod vs the dicks racing taper bore and intelajet? Mxa loves it

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Crush wrote:
I liked the shorter silencer on mine and also the softest powervalve spring... was it green or Yellow? Whatever it was that made it come alive...
I liked the shorter silencer on mine and also the softest powervalve spring... was it green or Yellow? Whatever it was that made it come alive soonest, then I could lug it more without the hit. I'm not a revver!
You and me are probably the only dudes in the world that run the green spring on these bikesLaughing
Craig_Lambrecht 10/7/2014 9:14am
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Digger29 wrote:
What he said.. :-) I rode his bike and it Fn rips!! If money were an object and I was doing them in order of importance...
What he said.. :-) I rode his bike and it Fn rips!!

If money were an object and I was doing them in order of importance I would go this way.

1. Suspension. KTM's are the best handling bikes on the track once you get the suspension sorted out.
1A. Jetting. It's super important getting it jetted correctly to get the most out of your bike.
2. V-force. Way better than the V-force 2 copy that KTM is using now.
3 Silencer of your choice. The stock silencer makes almost a 1hp less on the dyno than Bill's that I'm running.
4. Pipe. I love the Bill's and it definitely gives the bike the most top end but they're all good and it's a personal preference thing.
5. 38mm carb from the 125/150SX. Your bike will absolutely rip and seems to rev to moon with the Bill's pipe combo and the 38mm carb.
KTMShane699 wrote:
I'm disappointed in you digger! ;) you left out to make sure the x and z dimensions are set properly (mine were close, but not exact)...
I'm disappointed in you digger! Wink you left out to make sure the x and z dimensions are set properly (mine were close, but not exact) and to put the red power valve spring in and set the power valve adjuster to where you like it. Start flush with the cases and move it in until the power is how you like it.

Oh yeah, and jet it.

For the silencer, I'd stick with the longer one. I have a short one, but with the carb set up, I'd rather the long one to let it really rev out better. The short is great for a tight technical track, but anything with speed and the long silencer shines.

Shane
thanks! I was going to ask about the pv spring actually. Glad you beat me to it.
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4stroke4DWIN wrote:
I tried to race this weekend and even with PODS I couldn't shift, you wouldn't believe how much your knee plays into shifting til it's F'd...
I tried to race this weekend and even with PODS I couldn't shift, you wouldn't believe how much your knee plays into shifting til it's F'd up. But when your ready for those kits hit me up. You know how to find me lol.
Craig_Lambrecht wrote:
DAMN man, that sucks. sorry to hear that!! and you know I will brotha! You know when you get your TC, you'll just be copying me...
DAMN man, that sucks. sorry to hear that!!


and you know I will brotha!

You know when you get your TC, you'll just be copying me, right? Wink
4stroke4DWIN wrote:
Different route bro, got a free YZ250 to mob around on. Gonna keep the 125 for the 125 open class and ride the 250 in vet...
Different route bro, got a free YZ250 to mob around on. Gonna keep the 125 for the 125 open class and ride the 250 in vet open. It's hard on a 125 against these cats on 450's. I can out turn them but as you know the straights they kill me. Now it's gonna be a level playing field lol.
FREE? Does the guy know you have it yet or is he going to go in to his garage and be surprised? Wink
Craig_Lambrecht 10/7/2014 10:21am
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and KTM Shane, what are the x and z dimensions??
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Try a Lectron carb. After having one for a year I'll never go back to a multi-circuit carb ever again. Better mileage, super smooth power (no overlapping circuits) and top end pulls forever.

Far better than a traditional carb IMO.









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Craig_Lambrecht wrote:
and KTM Shane, what are the x and z dimensions??
I don't remember the dimensions themselves as far as what they should be. They are in the owners manual for the bike though. X I believe is the top of the piston to the top of the cylinder without a gasket. Then you figure out what gaskets make it the correct dimension. The Z is the top of the cylinder to the power valve flap when the power valve is closed.

Double check your manual. I'm working off of memory and I haven't played with mine in a while.

Shane
Craig_Lambrecht 10/7/2014 12:47pm
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Craig_Lambrecht wrote:
and KTM Shane, what are the x and z dimensions??
KTMShane699 wrote:
I don't remember the dimensions themselves as far as what they should be. They are in the owners manual for the bike though. X I believe...
I don't remember the dimensions themselves as far as what they should be. They are in the owners manual for the bike though. X I believe is the top of the piston to the top of the cylinder without a gasket. Then you figure out what gaskets make it the correct dimension. The Z is the top of the cylinder to the power valve flap when the power valve is closed.

Double check your manual. I'm working off of memory and I haven't played with mine in a while.

Shane
awesome. thanks Shane!!!

Man I cant wait to get the bike!!!!!!!!!!
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Crush wrote:
I liked the shorter silencer on mine and also the softest powervalve spring... was it green or Yellow? Whatever it was that made it come alive...
I liked the shorter silencer on mine and also the softest powervalve spring... was it green or Yellow? Whatever it was that made it come alive soonest, then I could lug it more without the hit. I'm not a revver!
Fearo wrote:
You and me are probably the only dudes in the world that run the green spring on these bikesLaughing
Yeah I think the best part about this motor is it's basically a four stroke without engine braking. Using the hardest hitting powervalve spring to me takes away the rideability.
Craig_Lambrecht 10/9/2014 9:11am
10/9/2014 9:11am
thanks again for all your help guys!!

Should have the new scooter in about two weeks.

Can't wait to break in to it!
Craig_Lambrecht 10/27/2014 11:33am
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Crush wrote:
I liked the shorter silencer on mine and also the softest powervalve spring... was it green or Yellow? Whatever it was that made it come alive...
I liked the shorter silencer on mine and also the softest powervalve spring... was it green or Yellow? Whatever it was that made it come alive soonest, then I could lug it more without the hit. I'm not a revver!
Fearo wrote:
You and me are probably the only dudes in the world that run the green spring on these bikesLaughing
Crush wrote:
Yeah I think the best part about this motor is it's basically a four stroke without engine braking. Using the hardest hitting powervalve spring to me...
Yeah I think the best part about this motor is it's basically a four stroke without engine braking. Using the hardest hitting powervalve spring to me takes away the rideability.
do you know which pv spring comes in it?
swedishfishmx 10/27/2014 11:39am
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Fearo wrote:
You and me are probably the only dudes in the world that run the green spring on these bikesLaughing
Crush wrote:
Yeah I think the best part about this motor is it's basically a four stroke without engine braking. Using the hardest hitting powervalve spring to me...
Yeah I think the best part about this motor is it's basically a four stroke without engine braking. Using the hardest hitting powervalve spring to me takes away the rideability.
Craig_Lambrecht wrote:
do you know which pv spring comes in it?
The yellow spring. I use the yellow spring with the screw all the way backed out flush plus 1/2 turn. it seems to work pretty well.
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Uncle Tony 10/27/2014 12:05pm
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All this work? Why don't you guys just buy a yz250,just kidding, not only does diggers bike look great, it rips and sounds awesome!!!!no joke

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