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If Honda produced a 125/300 2T their books would reflect peoples desire to own one. Husky/Gas Gas/TM/etc. dealers aren't on every corner like the "big 4" are and a lot of people I'd wag would be more comfortable buying from them than buying a bike that may be harder to get parts/service on.
Which comes first, chick or egg? Don't make em unless they sell, can't sell em 'cause you don't make em…….
Vexing.
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KTM owners aren't no dummies. Solid choices on both.
I always wanted to do a rollercoaster tour, now I am going to have to add the BBQ tour as well. If I only had a big oil royalty check coming in every month or a lottery win!
This website is controlled by the four-stroke industrial complex.
Does that mean KTM have been the problem all along?!!
Pit Row
250f - less power, broader power, easier to ride
250 2s - more power, narrower power, harder to ride
Me personally, I like bikes, 2 stroke or 4, it's all fun to me. No dog in the fight and no agenda.
God I hated that bitch. Everytime I was on it I felt like I was in bed with an ex girlfriend who I have no intentions of being in bed with. Damn thing just pissed me off to no avail.
Attention middle-aged vet riders: Please continue to buy new 2 strokes at MSRP and sell them to me for significantly less after babying the shit out of them, and for bolting on every sick trick aftermarket part on the planet for the short 14 hours time-span you have them.
Styke beat everyone on a 250f... Makeham came 2nd on a two stroke...
This year it was a bit of the same and bit of the opposite, in the end the best rider won and I think he would have if he was on a two stroke too.
The power is a difference for sure, but so is the handling and the tractability characteristics of a four stroke, and at the end of the day for the sake of a few more entries who cares.... Let em race.
Maybe GuyB could dig up that info, but we know he doesn't care to.
Predictably most opinions fell on the side of whether or not your brand had a two stroke, but for me the standout was the heap of riders who said they flat out would quit if they weren't on the two stroke because they couldn't afford it.
On this point we're talking about survival of the class, or even the show. I fully agree with the AMA philosophy of prize money and letting everyone in, as opposed to the GPs who view it as F1. It's a different consideration down here but it highlights how expensive the sport has become under the four stroke era.
I'm very much pro 2-stroke as the benefits clearly out weight the negatives (IMO). I try not to bitch about the 4 stroke state of mind our sport is in but I like to call out people on bullshit they spew. Good on Australia series for having the balls to let everyone play!
The argument that Honda or Kawi will just pack up and go home to me because they don't have a two stroke just doesn't hold any weight.
They won't.
They didn't when four strokes came in.
They're still in the market of selling dirt bikes.
They'll either see a market opportunity and reopen their production lines.
Or they'll keep going at their current operating model and costs and see what happens.
I guarantee the costs of Honda to reopen those lines dwindles compared to their profit margins overall in the long run.
Like I said, all the manufacturers, they're in the market of selling dirt bikes, and part of that is market demand. Slowly but surely they're pricing that demand down.
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