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dazzlindino 8/6/2014 2:27am
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dazzlindino wrote:
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship... JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship.... In other words JS wins twice as many...
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship...
JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship....
In other words JS wins twice as many races....
Mikeyam187 wrote:
You sound like a Democrat, trying to spin something in your favor by giving misleading, uh um...facts...!Unsure
So how is Rc winning 150 races or Stewart 100 in my favor.....
my bank account shows otherwise .....Laughing
tiddlermx23 8/6/2014 3:03am
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Ricky Carmichael never let James Stewart have one supercross (fim world title was stupid) or outdoor title while those two raced against each other. 15 titles against 5 and somehow you still think Stewart was in the same league as Carmichael because he got a few wins here and there? Thats silly..
dazzlindino 8/6/2014 6:59am
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tiddlermx23 wrote:
Ricky Carmichael never let James Stewart have one supercross (fim world title was stupid) or outdoor title while those two raced against each other. 15 titles...
Ricky Carmichael never let James Stewart have one supercross (fim world title was stupid) or outdoor title while those two raced against each other. 15 titles against 5 and somehow you still think Stewart was in the same league as Carmichael because he got a few wins here and there? Thats silly..
so what ur sayin is...
that these 2 riders, that have 250 OA MX/SX wins and 20 championships between them...
one is a hero the other not so much....
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mx836 8/6/2014 8:25am
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bigborefan wrote:
20 race wins per Championship?

Which series has 20 rounds?

Mr. G wrote:
Are there not 24 races per year?
bigborefan wrote:
No there are not. Not in the US anyway. There are 12 Outdoor MX races and 17 SX races. That's 29 races. MX "races" are made...
No there are not. Not in the US anyway. There are 12 Outdoor MX races and 17 SX races. That's 29 races.

MX "races" are made up of two motos.

This thread is just a weak attempt to prop up JSE anyway.
"To prop up James Stewart Entertainment"? What does that even mean?

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dazzlindino wrote:
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship... JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship.... In other words JS wins twice as many...
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship...
JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship....
In other words JS wins twice as many races....
Cool stats. So RC has 50 more wins and 10 more championships. Including 4 out of 4 against Stewart. He's not ahead on all counts though, he had one less reality show than Stew and one less positive drugs test.

Oh yeah, RC retired much earlier while still on top as well.
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RangerLee 8/6/2014 8:48am
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This falls in with the "should SX wins count for more points" posts that pop up whenever JS wins 2 in a row. Suddenly, he is the best on the track and if wins counted for more he would be leading and win the whole thing. Of course when RV comes back and wins out the rest of the season, those same people are silent.

They are both great riders, but don't try to knock RC's ability by over inflating a single stat (which appears to be twisted anyway)
dazzlindino 8/6/2014 8:56am
8/6/2014 8:56am
RangerLee wrote:
This falls in with the "should SX wins count for more points" posts that pop up whenever JS wins 2 in a row. Suddenly, he is...
This falls in with the "should SX wins count for more points" posts that pop up whenever JS wins 2 in a row. Suddenly, he is the best on the track and if wins counted for more he would be leading and win the whole thing. Of course when RV comes back and wins out the rest of the season, those same people are silent.

They are both great riders, but don't try to knock RC's ability by over inflating a single stat (which appears to be twisted anyway)
Twisted Sister has nothing to wid itt ......HaHa.....LOL...
SEE ARE125 8/6/2014 9:48am
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dazzlindino wrote:
so what ur sayin is... that these 2 riders, that have 250 OA MX/SX wins and 20 championships between them... one is a hero the other...
so what ur sayin is...
that these 2 riders, that have 250 OA MX/SX wins and 20 championships between them...
one is a hero the other not so much....
so what ur sayin is...
that me and Carmichael, that have 150 OA MX/SX wins and 15 championships between us...
he is a hero and i'm not....





/just bustin' your balls, all in fun Silly
dazzlindino 8/6/2014 10:33am
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dazzlindino wrote:
so what ur sayin is... that these 2 riders, that have 250 OA MX/SX wins and 20 championships between them... one is a hero the other...
so what ur sayin is...
that these 2 riders, that have 250 OA MX/SX wins and 20 championships between them...
one is a hero the other not so much....
SEE ARE125 wrote:
so what ur sayin is... that me and Carmichael, that have 150 OA MX/SX wins and 15 championships between us... he is a hero and i'm...
so what ur sayin is...
that me and Carmichael, that have 150 OA MX/SX wins and 15 championships between us...
he is a hero and i'm not....





/just bustin' your balls, all in fun Silly
haha....u gots id'it vabeee.....Tongue
tiddlermx23 8/6/2014 10:33am
8/6/2014 10:33am
dazzlindino wrote:
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship... JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship.... In other words JS wins twice as many...
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship...
JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship....
In other words JS wins twice as many races....
FARANG wrote:
Cool stats. So RC has 50 more wins and 10 more championships. Including 4 out of 4 against Stewart. He's not ahead on all counts though...
Cool stats. So RC has 50 more wins and 10 more championships. Including 4 out of 4 against Stewart. He's not ahead on all counts though, he had one less reality show than Stew and one less positive drugs test.

Oh yeah, RC retired much earlier while still on top as well.
Pretty much what he said. Stewart never beat RC for a title so imo they dont compare.
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scshout 8/6/2014 11:58am
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TripleFive wrote:
I guess crashing out of championships does pay off.
JS crashed more cause he has balls and pushed the limit more. Most fans prefer balls-out going-for-it over slow and steady and finishing first if the faster riders crash....there are lots of riders like that, and yeah, it's fine...but people love JS7 cause he was / sometimes still is the fastest rider on the track, the crashes are just part of the risks. Now that he is older though and had his share of injuries, it might be time for him to try the slow and steady technique for a change, but he is about to retire, so knowing James, he will give it his all balls-out once again his final sx season.
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huck 8/6/2014 12:10pm
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TripleFive wrote:
I guess crashing out of championships does pay off.
scshout wrote:
JS crashed more cause he has balls and pushed the limit more. Most fans prefer balls-out going-for-it over slow and steady and finishing first if the...
JS crashed more cause he has balls and pushed the limit more. Most fans prefer balls-out going-for-it over slow and steady and finishing first if the faster riders crash....there are lots of riders like that, and yeah, it's fine...but people love JS7 cause he was / sometimes still is the fastest rider on the track, the crashes are just part of the risks. Now that he is older though and had his share of injuries, it might be time for him to try the slow and steady technique for a change, but he is about to retire, so knowing James, he will give it his all balls-out once again his final sx season.
Are you saying that RC was "slow and steady"...because you obviously have never watched any of his races!
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Cygnus 8/6/2014 12:15pm
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TripleFive wrote:
I guess crashing out of championships does pay off.
scshout wrote:
JS crashed more cause he has balls and pushed the limit more. Most fans prefer balls-out going-for-it over slow and steady and finishing first if the...
JS crashed more cause he has balls and pushed the limit more. Most fans prefer balls-out going-for-it over slow and steady and finishing first if the faster riders crash....there are lots of riders like that, and yeah, it's fine...but people love JS7 cause he was / sometimes still is the fastest rider on the track, the crashes are just part of the risks. Now that he is older though and had his share of injuries, it might be time for him to try the slow and steady technique for a change, but he is about to retire, so knowing James, he will give it his all balls-out once again his final sx season.
huck wrote:
Are you saying that RC was "slow and steady"...because you obviously have never watched any of his races!
Dude is getting high on his own supply.

Edit he just changed from redbud CO to IL.
dazzlindino 8/6/2014 12:16pm
8/6/2014 12:16pm Edited Date/Time 8/6/2014 12:34pm
huck wrote:
Are you saying that RC was "slow and steady"...because you obviously have never watched any of his races!
RC was more tortoise than goat...
you know...
the old roll-on throttle is safe everytime....method...
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bigborefan 8/6/2014 12:59pm
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dazzlindino wrote:
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship... JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship.... In other words JS wins twice as many...
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship...
JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship....
In other words JS wins twice as many races....
Mikeyam187 wrote:
You sound like a Democrat, trying to spin something in your favor by giving misleading, uh um...facts...!Unsure
More like Sean Hannity.
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bigborefan 8/6/2014 1:08pm
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mx836 wrote:
"To prop up James Stewart Entertainment"? What does that even mean?
Easy, The Monark is cooking the books to make his guy, JSE, look good. His math is flawed. Of course we all that, I assume? That's the joke here.

And I refer to James as JSE because that's what he is/does. He's just an entertainer, not a real racer.
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gsxrcr28 8/6/2014 1:36pm
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mx836 wrote:
"To prop up James Stewart Entertainment"? What does that even mean?
bigborefan wrote:
Easy, The Monark is cooking the books to make his guy, JSE, look good. His math is flawed. Of course we all that, I assume? That's...
Easy, The Monark is cooking the books to make his guy, JSE, look good. His math is flawed. Of course we all that, I assume? That's the joke here.

And I refer to James as JSE because that's what he is/does. He's just an entertainer, not a real racer.
But still has the 2nd most wins in history, that's incredible for an entertainer to beat all them real racers Laughing
dazzlindino 8/6/2014 1:46pm
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
But still has the 2nd most wins in history, that's incredible for an entertainer to beat all them real racers Laughing
theres no business like show business...haha...
cooking the books...haha....
so Rc dosent have 150 wins and 15 Championships?
or JS dosent have 100 wins and 5 championships?

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dazzlindino wrote:
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship... JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship.... In other words JS wins twice as many...
RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship...
JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship....
In other words JS wins twice as many races....
FARANG wrote:
Cool stats. So RC has 50 more wins and 10 more championships. Including 4 out of 4 against Stewart. He's not ahead on all counts though...
Cool stats. So RC has 50 more wins and 10 more championships. Including 4 out of 4 against Stewart. He's not ahead on all counts though, he had one less reality show than Stew and one less positive drugs test.

Oh yeah, RC retired much earlier while still on top as well.
tiddlermx23 wrote:
Pretty much what he said. Stewart never beat RC for a title so imo they dont compare.
You have obviously overlooked the much coveted WSX title of 2005. If Lenny were here he would have already told you about it.
overthebars39 8/6/2014 2:10pm
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This sport is more complicated then some numbers. RC is mind blowing when you look at his stats, JS7 is mind blowing when you watch him ride. RC is a beast/machine, JS7 a freaking wizard. That guy has the ability to bend the law of physics.
tiddlermx23 8/6/2014 2:55pm
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FARANG wrote:
Cool stats. So RC has 50 more wins and 10 more championships. Including 4 out of 4 against Stewart. He's not ahead on all counts though...
Cool stats. So RC has 50 more wins and 10 more championships. Including 4 out of 4 against Stewart. He's not ahead on all counts though, he had one less reality show than Stew and one less positive drugs test.

Oh yeah, RC retired much earlier while still on top as well.
tiddlermx23 wrote:
Pretty much what he said. Stewart never beat RC for a title so imo they dont compare.
RandyS wrote:
You have obviously overlooked the much coveted WSX title of 2005. If Lenny were here he would have already told you about it.
I mentioned that championship in my first post.
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RandyS 8/6/2014 3:09pm
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tiddlermx23 wrote:
Pretty much what he said. Stewart never beat RC for a title so imo they dont compare.
RandyS wrote:
You have obviously overlooked the much coveted WSX title of 2005. If Lenny were here he would have already told you about it.
tiddlermx23 wrote:
I mentioned that championship in my first post.
I didn't see that until you mentioned it, plus you said it was stupid. Obviously you don't understand the weight of a WORLD SUPERCROSS TITLE. I only wish Lenny was here to embellish the enormity of this major award.
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bigborefan 8/6/2014 3:37pm
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
But still has the 2nd most wins in history, that's incredible for an entertainer to beat all them real racers Laughing
dazzlindino wrote:
theres no business like show business...haha... cooking the books...haha.... so Rc dosent have 150 wins and 15 Championships? or JS dosent have 100 wins and 5...
theres no business like show business...haha...
cooking the books...haha....
so Rc dosent have 150 wins and 15 Championships?
or JS dosent have 100 wins and 5 championships?
Your original flawed math. Texas state standards I guess?


RC has 150 wins...15 Championships...10 race wins per championship...
JS has 100 wins...5 Championships....20 race wins per championship....
In other words JS wins twice as many races....
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I am so glad someone created a thread to discuss whether RC or JS are the better rider. I'm hoping one of these days someone posts a 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke thread. We really need to have that discussion.
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bigborefan 8/6/2014 3:43pm
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2 Stroke sometimes, 4 stroke sometimes.

The topic should be The Monarks lack of math skills.
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jtomasik 8/6/2014 3:47pm
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bigborefan wrote:
2 Stroke sometimes, 4 stroke sometimes.

The topic should be The Monarks lack of math skills.
Monarks' location: Texas.

Need I say more?


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bigborefan 8/6/2014 3:50pm
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Don't misunderestimate The Monark.
benchracermx 8/6/2014 3:57pm
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mx836 wrote:
"To prop up James Stewart Entertainment"? What does that even mean?
bigborefan wrote:
Easy, The Monark is cooking the books to make his guy, JSE, look good. His math is flawed. Of course we all that, I assume? That's...
Easy, The Monark is cooking the books to make his guy, JSE, look good. His math is flawed. Of course we all that, I assume? That's the joke here.

And I refer to James as JSE because that's what he is/does. He's just an entertainer, not a real racer.
It sure is entertaining when he comes from behind in supercross and makes the worlds best look silly.... But that's not racing, just a circus
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bigborefan 8/6/2014 3:59pm
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mx836 wrote:
"To prop up James Stewart Entertainment"? What does that even mean?
bigborefan wrote:
Easy, The Monark is cooking the books to make his guy, JSE, look good. His math is flawed. Of course we all that, I assume? That's...
Easy, The Monark is cooking the books to make his guy, JSE, look good. His math is flawed. Of course we all that, I assume? That's the joke here.

And I refer to James as JSE because that's what he is/does. He's just an entertainer, not a real racer.
benchracermx wrote:
It sure is entertaining when he comes from behind in supercross and makes the worlds best look silly.... But that's not racing, just a circus
We're making progress. Circus, that's a good description of Team JSE.

Too bad he can't do that more than once a season, no?
benchracermx 8/6/2014 4:15pm
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bigborefan wrote:
Easy, The Monark is cooking the books to make his guy, JSE, look good. His math is flawed. Of course we all that, I assume? That's...
Easy, The Monark is cooking the books to make his guy, JSE, look good. His math is flawed. Of course we all that, I assume? That's the joke here.

And I refer to James as JSE because that's what he is/does. He's just an entertainer, not a real racer.
benchracermx wrote:
It sure is entertaining when he comes from behind in supercross and makes the worlds best look silly.... But that's not racing, just a circus
bigborefan wrote:
We're making progress. Circus, that's a good description of Team JSE.

Too bad he can't do that more than once a season, no?
Touché,indeed that wld require far more adderall! In all seriousness I don't understand why many people bash him,i am simply a fan of motocross and sometimes Stuart does things (once a year apparently) that simply no one else is capable of doing. So I don't care how many championships or races he's won, I am a fan because he is entertaining I consider myself very fortunate to have seen him ride....so mock away but the sport will lose a legend when stewart entertainment is no more....
Ps how U can even say he's not a racer? Have u seen his battles with Carmichael and reed etc.u must be high

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