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You really just said that herlings is on another level from everts. Seriously Herlings hasn't even raced in MX1 let alone won multiple titles like everts. I'm sorry but your an idiot for that statement.
Its only like saying that james stewart took riding supercross to another level from those before him, RC did from mcgrath, mcgrath did from those before him etc....
most of the people around the gp paddock say the same thing (including everts himself) - jeffrey is a better sand rider than stefan ever was, and has now stepped up his game on other surfaces. Ive spoken to a few top riders that agree, when they see herlings ride in person, he is the best they have ever seen
you can say what you want about him but if you actually see him ride a motorcycle you cant deny his talent
I'm looking forward to seeing him race in America- it will be a treat for you guys to see him ride
How is herlings the fastest on a motorcycle when we haven't seen him on a supercross track or tested against the worlds best beside a few races at MXDN.
I'm not denying his talent, yes he may be fast but all we have seen is GP's. To me KROC is probably one of the best in the world, he is proven at GP'S, SX and Nationals. He has swallowed his pride and took the risk, he successfully made the transition to the most competitive series in the world the american SX and MX series. Seriously the mx1 class at GP's has some decent depth but the mx2 class is extremely lackluster
Sorry but until he races some decent competition then he is one of the best 250 riders in the world at the moment and that's it.
I'm quite sure he is the fastest 250F rider anyway.
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You think mx1 has a deep field and mx2 doesn't have any decent competition- the only reason some people think that is because Herlings is beating everyone so easily. If you look at the laptimes from teuschental last weekend you will see the top mx2 riders are running about the same pace as the top mx1 riders, herlings is a couple of seconds a lap faster than everyone in both classes....
the competition isn't slow in mx2 - it's just herlings is THAT good that he makes them look slow.
Anyone thats lapping the same times as desalle, cairoli etc on a 250f is not slow!
In my opinion (and others share the same opinion) jeffrey is the best 250f rider in the world (outdoors) - the best rider in any class in the world in my opinion.
And talking about interviews, a read one here this week, and by the sound of it Herlings is not the only one coming over to race an AMA National. GC #259 stated that if he is ok to ride he what to prep him on some of the nationals for the last 2 gp's in Brazil and Mexico, but only if he is ready to ride and is fit. if he come's back in the hp's mx2, he only whants to go for a podium.
Everts had much more competition than Herlings.Put Herlings,Roczen,Cairoli and the best americans together in one class,let them race and after we will look at the results.
Do you think if Roczen had stayed in the GP's ,Herlings would have dominated?
Shock and horror!
Are you implying that Herlings doesn't have any competition in MX2 GPs?
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This is why Kenny is on his way to becoming (or has already become) the king of the castle for badasses.
As a fan, yes I wish he'd move up. I want to see that titanic season long battle between him and Cairoli as much as anyone else. But I disagree that he's a sandbagger or that he's doing something a little bit underhand or wrong by staying down another year. JH isn't breaking age records by how long he's so far stayed in MX2, and once he leaves he can't ever really go back. If the competition doesn't want to be at the mercy of when JH does or doesn't move up - then really they are the ones that need to step up.
He's got literally NO competition.
He's gonna piss this title in regardless of missing races.
Who cares how old he is. He's old enough to move up and has no comp in his current class. I could let it slide this year, but another? Fuck man!
Does anyone know who is singing the song or the name of the song in the first few minutes? The song is also smooth as butter
When there were first talks of him moving up to mx1,he wouldn't be allowed under the Decarli pit
He would have to stay under the mx2 tent
Who knows the politics going on behind the scenes
In the mx2 class ktm has no one who can fill herlings shoes, maybe in the future pootjes can, but tixier isn't consistent enough
All ktm wants is another mx2 and mx1 title
I imagine ktm pays him so they call the shots
Just like he wouldn't be allowed to race Unadilla without the consent of the KTM chiefs
The only way he likely gets to race mx1 right now is to terminate his contract with ktm and sign with another manufacturer
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Decarli maybe is difficult with AC, but to think that he's being held back is crazy. And if that's the case, then KTM are in fact the new pussholes of the week.
I think it's awesome he's going to race in the US. I've always wanted to see him race real moto against some stiffer competition and a full gate.
Why would he want to race a series with minimal at best competition. The last GP I caught they couldn't even fill HALF the gate. I feel sooo bad for those guys, it totally sucks.
Why would he (or anyone else really) bother? With such a small pool of talent wheres the sense of accomplishment - Who cares if he smashes every record in the books - Its European GPs - post Giuseppe.......what a waste of talent!
GPs used to be the heart and soul of MX now they're not even a joke anymore.........they're actually pathetic, at least they appear that way on TV. I know there may be a few stalwarts that insist everything is great in the GPs and I just don't understand the system, to that I'd say your right, I don't.
It really is a bummer for Herlings and guys of his caliber. His whole career so far has been under FIM/Giuseppe and all the rules that decimated the GPs prestige and most of the competition.
Even though I think know better and have been told so, I still can't help but sub-consciously at least discount Herlings accomplishments so far.....it's not his fault (unless he continues to avoid competition - I'll give him a mulligan this year) and that I think is BS!
It will be interesting to see what he's really got for the race(s) he does do over here. I'd like to see him at Southwick.
His whole season is going to consist of however many races he decides to man up and race in the US. I know he's young and all but what a waste of a year. BTW I didn't bother reading most of this thread so if these sentiments have already been posted I apologize.
JH is very fast, he's a phenom; but there are lots of phenoms in the world. Some regions cultivate their phenoms better than others, the US actually has a whole bunch of phenoms. Unfortunately in Europe and from where Herlings is from cultivating phenoms is not done too well. In fact many EU phenoms are probably farming fields and have never even swung a leg over a bike as they can see no benefit under the current GP system.
Right now JH is a fast phenom in a small pond a VERY small pond.
I know Herlings looks real fast against his competition under the current structure that is EU GPs, and goes real well in the sand but until he competes against a full gate of his moto peers we will never know.
You have to agree that he certainly isn't pushing himself anymore while his perers are pushing themselves to the absolute limit every week. You also have to agree that can't bode well for Herlings or be any kind of recipe for success if he ever wants to be taken seriously as well rounded racer as opposed to a one trick GP pony.
I wonder how he feels about it? Time will definite tell on this one, because I'm sure if he thinks he's up for it we'll see him do an entire US season soon enough; just like all the other fast Euros that have wanted to continue to challenge themselves. It has to be killing him with minimal competition, half full starting gates and everyone second guessing his accomplishments with guys like me spouting off on the Interweb.
That said, he needs to get out of MX2. If the KTM upper brass is stopping him from doing that, maybe it's time to jump ship.
I agree with you re: SX being a different sport though and not sure what your point was. I would consider ANYBODY that races both SX, MX, in any series where there are FULL gates taking advantage of the entire talent pool in the region as a complete racer. Roczen definitely qualifies but so do many many others, hopefully soon JH will too - right now not so much. RV has raced on both sides of the pond during races where there are FULL gates of the best of the best and finished well so yes, I'd actually say he actually IS a well rounded racer.
You don't have to worry about that though; he's not going to win. I don't say that from a lack of talent standpoint, I say that because nobody jumps series, countries, and timezones these days and instantly competes for wins; especially if they've never raced in that series before
GP pom pom wavers are setting mighty lofty expectations for a one-off race where a lot of variables will be out of JH's control.
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