Rain this weekend at Thundervalley!

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jasonv43 6/3/2014 11:07pm
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EZZA 95B wrote:
Are you gonna be giving piggyback rides to all the girls?Laughing

EDIT: Dammit, didn't quote! Was @ JV43
Haha. Maybe.....
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jamma10 6/4/2014 12:43am
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There hasn't been a wet National for years has there? Southwick 2011?

I'd like to see it rain for a change.
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FIREfish148 6/4/2014 2:50am
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jamma10 wrote:
There hasn't been a wet National for years has there? Southwick 2011?

I'd like to see it rain for a change.
Seems like there is one every four years or so. The one before 'wick at Millville was epic. Mt Morris 2000 was an epic mud race as well. RC didn't do as well in that race.

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JM485 wrote:
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of...
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of rain, and we all know how expensive that can be. Realistically, if you were struggling to get from race to race would you risk it this weekend and race or not if the weather is terrible?

I love a good mud race just as much as the next guy, but this was a thought that crossed my mind.
If your a privateer like my son with a stock motor it wont hurt at all!! We are from the northeast and its a common thing to race many mudders in the spring. I see it as making things a bit more even Wink
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35smom wrote:
If your a privateer like my son with a stock motor it wont hurt at all!! We are from the northeast and its a common thing...
If your a privateer like my son with a stock motor it wont hurt at all!! We are from the northeast and its a common thing to race many mudders in the spring. I see it as making things a bit more even Wink
Totally!

Thats why I love watching mud races (and hate racing them...)
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JM485 wrote:
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of...
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of rain, and we all know how expensive that can be. Realistically, if you were struggling to get from race to race would you risk it this weekend and race or not if the weather is terrible?

I love a good mud race just as much as the next guy, but this was a thought that crossed my mind.
Then again a privateer could spank everyone in the mud, great equalizer
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JM485 wrote:
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of...
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of rain, and we all know how expensive that can be. Realistically, if you were struggling to get from race to race would you risk it this weekend and race or not if the weather is terrible?

I love a good mud race just as much as the next guy, but this was a thought that crossed my mind.
35smom wrote:
If your a privateer like my son with a stock motor it wont hurt at all!! We are from the northeast and its a common thing...
If your a privateer like my son with a stock motor it wont hurt at all!! We are from the northeast and its a common thing to race many mudders in the spring. I see it as making things a bit more even Wink
Unless RC4 was in the mix!! Woohoo



Why would a privateer run a stock motor? (serious question)
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JM485 wrote:
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of...
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of rain, and we all know how expensive that can be. Realistically, if you were struggling to get from race to race would you risk it this weekend and race or not if the weather is terrible?

I love a good mud race just as much as the next guy, but this was a thought that crossed my mind.
35smom wrote:
If your a privateer like my son with a stock motor it wont hurt at all!! We are from the northeast and its a common thing...
If your a privateer like my son with a stock motor it wont hurt at all!! We are from the northeast and its a common thing to race many mudders in the spring. I see it as making things a bit more even Wink
huck wrote:
Unless RC4 was in the mix!! Woohoo



Why would a privateer run a stock motor? (serious question)
For us, its a money thing. Joey wants to race and its the only way we can do it. He has 1 bike, practice and race. Its a challenge for him, but he gives it 1000%. I certainly would love a JGR motor, but in reality, not gonna happen.
Best thing he has never ever once complained about that Yamaha 450 motor...suspension is the bigger deal.
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35smom wrote:
If your a privateer like my son with a stock motor it wont hurt at all!! We are from the northeast and its a common thing...
If your a privateer like my son with a stock motor it wont hurt at all!! We are from the northeast and its a common thing to race many mudders in the spring. I see it as making things a bit more even Wink
huck wrote:
Unless RC4 was in the mix!! Woohoo



Why would a privateer run a stock motor? (serious question)
35smom wrote:
For us, its a money thing. Joey wants to race and its the only way we can do it. He has 1 bike, practice and race...
For us, its a money thing. Joey wants to race and its the only way we can do it. He has 1 bike, practice and race. Its a challenge for him, but he gives it 1000%. I certainly would love a JGR motor, but in reality, not gonna happen.
Best thing he has never ever once complained about that Yamaha 450 motor...suspension is the bigger deal.
And I'm sure that a stock motor is probably more reliable....if you don't have the means to rebuilt it after every race.
Thanks for the info.
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Bike Rat 6/5/2014 10:42am
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Still looking cold and wet on saturday.. mud and elevation might make this an epic race. Betting that the FL riders are going to freeze their asses off!

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JM485 wrote:
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of...
Not to be a hater, but wouldn't the muddier kill some privateer budgets? I would think motor damage could be extensive depending on the amount of rain, and we all know how expensive that can be. Realistically, if you were struggling to get from race to race would you risk it this weekend and race or not if the weather is terrible?

I love a good mud race just as much as the next guy, but this was a thought that crossed my mind.
peelout wrote:
Then again a privateer could spank everyone in the mud, great equalizer
Ricky Ryan 1987 Daytona.

It can happen.
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2thefront 6/5/2014 1:08pm
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Looks like the chance of rain keeps getting slimmer. Track should have plenty of moisture though with a couple days' rain leading up.
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2strokerider wrote:
pourcel 1-1 this weekend
if he doesn't get caught in the gate
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IceMan446 6/5/2014 1:35pm
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2strokerider wrote:
pourcel 1-1 this weekend
Doubt it.

Unless those other two yamaha guys have issues.
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2strokerider wrote:
pourcel 1-1 this weekend
JS7 1-1 this weekend. There fixed it for you.
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louis.bernard.564 6/5/2014 2:29pm
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2strokerider wrote:
pourcel 1-1 this weekend
IceMan446 wrote:
Doubt it.

Unless those other two yamaha guys have issues.

True, although this track seems to fit CP's style. Right now, the competition must already try to close the gap ...

Regarding a mudder, maybe he could go 1-1, like he did in MXGP 450 in Brazil, winning the 1st moto by 1 minute 30..., but he finished 4th in the second one, which confirms that a mudder is a kind of gamble.
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IceMan446 6/5/2014 2:34pm
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louis.bernard.564 wrote:
True, although this track seems to fit CP's style. Right now, the competition must already try to close the gap ... Regarding a mudder, maybe he...

True, although this track seems to fit CP's style. Right now, the competition must already try to close the gap ...

Regarding a mudder, maybe he could go 1-1, like he did in MXGP 450 in Brazil, winning the 1st moto by 1 minute 30..., but he finished 4th in the second one, which confirms that a mudder is a kind of gamble.
His smooth style and creative lines would definitely help.

Mud is the greatest equalizer.


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superorbital 6/5/2014 2:47pm
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superorbital wrote:
Even when it does rain here it never stays around very long. The clouds come over the mountains, rain for a bit, and then the clouds...
Even when it does rain here it never stays around very long. The clouds come over the mountains, rain for a bit, and then the clouds move out on the plains and dump. This is the high desert here people.
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Every now and then you do get a cloud that just camps in one place, saturates the ground, and eventually causes a flood. See the 1997...
Every now and then you do get a cloud that just camps in one place, saturates the ground, and eventually causes a flood.
See the 1997 Ft. Collins flood for example, or more recently http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Colorado_floods
But then again, seeing your location, you already know about it :-)
You are right about that. Fort Collins is weird. We miss 1/2 of everything Denver gets. I guess I don't really know Denver weather that well, though. Here is what usually happens. Denver gets hit with 12 inches of snow and we get nothing. Silly The place is weird for sure.
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There is obviously a front coming thru cuz the high Friday is around 75, and only around 60 on Sat. There is up to a 60% chance of rain Friday night...lets hope it doesn't wreck the track via a severe thunderstorm that washes it out...or with big hail or worse like the last few days just a little ways east of Denver.

Saturday's weather will not be the normal front range weather, but the 30% chance of rain is only for a few hours between 11AM and 2PM per the weather channel. Don't count on anything being accurate until the morning of the race, and even if they say sunny with very little chance of rain, be prepared for afternoon thundershowers.

Unless we get an absolute downpour Friday night what we're likely to have is cooler than normal temps and awesome racing!

We'll be there either way.

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dmac1 6/5/2014 3:00pm
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motoBRD wrote:
Anyone else watch that video from Scottie and end up completely confused? Was that supposed to be a race? I'm guessing so since there was a...
Anyone else watch that video from Scottie and end up completely confused? Was that supposed to be a race? I'm guessing so since there was a gate drop, but half the time it looks like he's going between fencing or he's off on the access road on the side of the track. I thought I was watching replay of Villopoto from last year...
They apparently were re-routing the riders to avoid some low areas. At the top of the first climb, the track normally goes right and drops down. It musta been a swamp down there as he was waved across an area that normally isn't track. Same thing later....avoided a low area via a shortcut. Its either that or they simply were shortening the track for the racers.

I wish his camera woulda been aimed higher so we coulda seen more.
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Remember this first lap whip from 2011?



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lostboy819 6/5/2014 6:00pm
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2strokerider wrote:
pourcel 1-1 this weekend
IceMan446 wrote:
Doubt it.

Unless those other two yamaha guys have issues.
They were running Martins and Webbs bike on the Dyno at Vickery today getting them set up for altitude, I don't think they will have problems being down on power. Wink





rocketsocks26 6/5/2014 6:26pm
6/5/2014 6:26pm
Fingers crossed for js7! Get'er done buddy! Win or lose i love watching him ride!
lostboy819 6/5/2014 11:28pm
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Nice thunderstorm just passed through, should make for a great track. Rain doesn't stick around long enough to cause a mud race.
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rocketsocks26 wrote:
Fingers crossed for js7! Get'er done buddy! Win or lose i love watching him ride!
I know they allways complain about being down on power at lakewood, but how much power do they lose at that altitude?
We dont have any high up traks in england that affect the bike like that.
Sorry quoted the wrong post.
2strokerider 6/5/2014 11:57pm
6/5/2014 11:57pm
2strokerider wrote:
pourcel 1-1 this weekend
IceMan446 wrote:
Doubt it.

Unless those other two yamaha guys have issues.
just remember pourcel hadnt raced for 18 months up until glen helen- he made big improvements from round one to round 2- looked very good in the 2nd moto at the last round in my opinion. Even if he doesnt win this weekend i think he will improve again and be closer to the front. Its a track he's ridden very well on before- wont bother him if its a mudder either he is very quick in the mud

I expect to see CP377 steadily improve as the season progresses- certainly wouldnt bet against him going 1-1 at unadilla!!!!

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