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steve_97060 5/26/2014 12:42pm
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ridge wrote:
Points are paid per Moto. To say the KTM boys weren't worried is not true because they just got beat by an "also ran" on inferior...
Points are paid per Moto. To say the KTM boys weren't worried is not true because they just got beat by an "also ran" on inferior equipment!

You don't think they were wondering why they didn't track him down and pass him (like they've done so many times)? Did they have the right set up? Is the Yamaha that good now? Lol
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I don't think Roczen or Dungey were worried. I think they both know Grant's history of inconsistent motos. I think they would have been more surprised...
I don't think Roczen or Dungey were worried. I think they both know Grant's history of inconsistent motos. I think they would have been more surprised if he won the second moto.

Roczen reeled Josh in and had a pretty good feel for what to do in the second moto.
ridge wrote:
So KR was like, "I'm just gonna let Grant win this one because I won't need those extra 3 points and I like his arm tats...
So KR was like, "I'm just gonna let Grant win this one because I won't need those extra 3 points and I like his arm tats. Hmmm, I wonder if I'd look that cool wearing a sleeveless jers"-BAM...checkered flag.

Hahaha

He would've beat him if he could have.
there is always a lot of projection that goes on here..
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rebus 5/26/2014 1:38pm
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ridge wrote:
Points are paid per Moto. To say the KTM boys weren't worried is not true because they just got beat by an "also ran" on inferior...
Points are paid per Moto. To say the KTM boys weren't worried is not true because they just got beat by an "also ran" on inferior equipment!

You don't think they were wondering why they didn't track him down and pass him (like they've done so many times)? Did they have the right set up? Is the Yamaha that good now? Lol
rebus wrote:
I don't think Roczen or Dungey were worried. I think they both know Grant's history of inconsistent motos. I think they would have been more surprised...
I don't think Roczen or Dungey were worried. I think they both know Grant's history of inconsistent motos. I think they would have been more surprised if he won the second moto.

Roczen reeled Josh in and had a pretty good feel for what to do in the second moto.
ridge wrote:
So KR was like, "I'm just gonna let Grant win this one because I won't need those extra 3 points and I like his arm tats...
So KR was like, "I'm just gonna let Grant win this one because I won't need those extra 3 points and I like his arm tats. Hmmm, I wonder if I'd look that cool wearing a sleeveless jers"-BAM...checkered flag.

Hahaha

He would've beat him if he could have.
That's not what I said now is it? I think Roczen would have very well passed Grant if he could have. Roczen reeled him in but ran out of time. What I said was that Grant does not have a history of being consistent, and that Roczen and Dungey didn't appear to be too worried about Grant in their podium interviews after the first moto.

Of course the facts back me up. Josh doesn't have a history of being consistent and his second moto was, well, you can figure it out. I don't think Dungey and Roczen are too worred about Josh Grant. Great first moto but like I said before, in motocross there are two motos. He'll have to do better than one good moto to be a contender for the title.
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40Plus_922mx 5/26/2014 1:47pm
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I have been harsh on JG in the past. I have to admit that he made a fool of everyone on the track in moto 1. After he came down YAMAHA hill, made the left back up the side of it he would pop the bike up 30ft before the right hander-whip the bike to the left-land sideways on the uphill berm with the rear tire spinning shootting a roost 30 foot and immediately launching back down hill towards the triple step up. It was a thing of beauty. And very JMB'esq. That bike is obviously working real good.
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ridge 5/26/2014 2:27pm
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rebus wrote:
I don't think Roczen or Dungey were worried. I think they both know Grant's history of inconsistent motos. I think they would have been more surprised...
I don't think Roczen or Dungey were worried. I think they both know Grant's history of inconsistent motos. I think they would have been more surprised if he won the second moto.

Roczen reeled Josh in and had a pretty good feel for what to do in the second moto.
ridge wrote:
So KR was like, "I'm just gonna let Grant win this one because I won't need those extra 3 points and I like his arm tats...
So KR was like, "I'm just gonna let Grant win this one because I won't need those extra 3 points and I like his arm tats. Hmmm, I wonder if I'd look that cool wearing a sleeveless jers"-BAM...checkered flag.

Hahaha

He would've beat him if he could have.
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That's not what I said now is it? I think Roczen would have very well passed Grant if he could have. Roczen reeled him in but...
That's not what I said now is it? I think Roczen would have very well passed Grant if he could have. Roczen reeled him in but ran out of time. What I said was that Grant does not have a history of being consistent, and that Roczen and Dungey didn't appear to be too worried about Grant in their podium interviews after the first moto.

Of course the facts back me up. Josh doesn't have a history of being consistent and his second moto was, well, you can figure it out. I don't think Dungey and Roczen are too worred about Josh Grant. Great first moto but like I said before, in motocross there are two motos. He'll have to do better than one good moto to be a contender for the title.
Kenny caught him with half the Moto to go! How much more time did he need?

That being said, I'd be kind of worried if I were KR or RD and getting paid probably 3 times as much as JG!

Also, the overall does not mean anything in the USA. Think of our series as 24 races instead of 12, because series points are paid each race...not overall scores on the day.

Unfortunately you are right about JG's consistency though. I hope it changes from here on out. He's paid his dues and hasn't given up going for wins...that's pretty admirable in a career where an injury can put your family out on the streets.

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It really goes to show how getting a holeshot can just work wonders. If he was buried mid pack he would of had worse lap times. Being out front puts a fire in your ass. The holeshot is just so important.
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IWreckALot 5/26/2014 6:34pm
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rebus wrote:
The only problem is that there are two motos. Grant has never been consistent. I felt like Kenny and Dungey weren't worried about Grant after the...
The only problem is that there are two motos. Grant has never been consistent. I felt like Kenny and Dungey weren't worried about Grant after the first moto. Kenny was looking forward to the next moto because he knew he had the speed and Dungey was congratulating Josh. They didn't seem worried. It's too bad because he can haul ass.
ridge wrote:
Points are paid per Moto. To say the KTM boys weren't worried is not true because they just got beat by an "also ran" on inferior...
Points are paid per Moto. To say the KTM boys weren't worried is not true because they just got beat by an "also ran" on inferior equipment!

You don't think they were wondering why they didn't track him down and pass him (like they've done so many times)? Did they have the right set up? Is the Yamaha that good now? Lol
rebus wrote:
I don't think Roczen or Dungey were worried. I think they both know Grant's history of inconsistent motos. I think they would have been more surprised...
I don't think Roczen or Dungey were worried. I think they both know Grant's history of inconsistent motos. I think they would have been more surprised if he won the second moto.

Roczen reeled Josh in and had a pretty good feel for what to do in the second moto.
Even if grant won both motos, I don't think Kroc or Dungey would have panicked. Round one a series does not make. Same if Stewart or reed won both motos. It's one round. I was very surprised to see grant up front. He showed a lot of speed and to claw his way to 15th in the second motos after a couple of mishaps is impressive. He put himself on the championship contenders radars if nothing else.
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davistld01 5/26/2014 6:50pm
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Josh Grant rode both motos like a guy who had something to prove. He's had injuries, lots of personal problems...and a lot of plain bad luck. I know I've trash talked Josh, and a lot of others here and elsewhere have too. I have a feeling that some things have been said to him by Coy Gibbs as well, seeing as JGR has invested tons of money on him, and (from the way their bikes looked Saturday) on the new Yamaha. They have also held onto his spot on the team through thick & thin. I think JGR has reached the point where they are as good as any factory team in the paddock, and they probably made it real clear to JG33 that they were expecting nothing but his best at Glen Helen...and I think Josh Grant gave them the best he had. I hope that cleared his slate of all the past BS, and caught the eyes of several factories...again. I hope Josh continues to shine in outdoor season.
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48dirtbikekid 5/26/2014 7:03pm
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If he viewed himself at all the other tracks as he does (mentally) at GH, he'd be a consistent contender. He really believes he the fastest at GH and can beat whoever, at the other tracks not so much. But he could defiantly be one and rode unreal on Saturday for sure.
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MN338 5/26/2014 7:18pm
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Grant is usually really strong at Hangtown and Thunder Valley. I'm interested to see if he can real off another win or two in the next four motos.
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ridge 5/26/2014 7:52pm
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MN338 wrote:
Grant is usually really strong at Hangtown and Thunder Valley. I'm interested to see if he can real off another win or two in the next...
Grant is usually really strong at Hangtown and Thunder Valley. I'm interested to see if he can real off another win or two in the next four motos.
That would be so rad...very Milsaps like!
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BobbyM 5/26/2014 7:59pm
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GuyB wrote:
Roczen was closing at the end, but Josh was going all-out to keep him behind. This was a "moment" on the last lap where it almost...
Roczen was closing at the end, but Josh was going all-out to keep him behind.

This was a "moment" on the last lap where it almost went all wrong.

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Good shot...
Was that 3rd time he almost ate it on the final lap or the 4th time?
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danman 5/27/2014 7:19am
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I hand it to JG, to go from 37th? the second moto back to 15th. I saw at one point around the 30 min mark he was turning 1:58 lap times while the front guys were turning 2:01-2:02. That's a guy on a mission!
I hope that fire carries on through the rest of the rounds.
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seth505 5/27/2014 7:31am
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rebus wrote:
The only problem is that there are two motos. Grant has never been consistent. I felt like Kenny and Dungey weren't worried about Grant after the...
The only problem is that there are two motos. Grant has never been consistent. I felt like Kenny and Dungey weren't worried about Grant after the first moto. Kenny was looking forward to the next moto because he knew he had the speed and Dungey was congratulating Josh. They didn't seem worried. It's too bad because he can haul ass.
Pretty sure they would not agree with your thinking but I digress. Roczen sure looked like he was trying to get around Grant for the win in the last few turns of the first moto. He sure wasn't sitting back and starting to predict the 2nd moto.
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rebus 5/27/2014 11:20am
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rebus wrote:
The only problem is that there are two motos. Grant has never been consistent. I felt like Kenny and Dungey weren't worried about Grant after the...
The only problem is that there are two motos. Grant has never been consistent. I felt like Kenny and Dungey weren't worried about Grant after the first moto. Kenny was looking forward to the next moto because he knew he had the speed and Dungey was congratulating Josh. They didn't seem worried. It's too bad because he can haul ass.
seth505 wrote:
Pretty sure they would not agree with your thinking but I digress. Roczen sure looked like he was trying to get around Grant for the win...
Pretty sure they would not agree with your thinking but I digress. Roczen sure looked like he was trying to get around Grant for the win in the last few turns of the first moto. He sure wasn't sitting back and starting to predict the 2nd moto.
What are you going on about? I never said that Roczen wasn't trying to get around Grant. I said that Dungey and Roczen didn't seem too worried about Josh after the moto. In a post-race interview, Dungey said, "Would have been nice to get in there and battle for a win but I knew that we were in it for the second moto and that was going to be the tough one." Italics mine.



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IceMan446 5/27/2014 11:31am
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Grant is pure class, simple as that. Raw speed and style for days. I like his attitude to racing and I hope he keeps it up...
Grant is pure class, simple as that. Raw speed and style for days. I like his attitude to racing and I hope he keeps it up.

nrly 30, JUST off an injury, doubted on fitness, WAXED THE LOT. the milky bars were on him in moto 1.

Respectamondo
Pure class??? Meh.

See the Alessi incident. Also, calling out James for something uncontrollable isn't showing class.

Waxed the lot??? See Jeremy Martin about how to wax the lot.
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