Reed's comment " Barcia has a bunch of talent to make that bike work ".

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Back the fuck off Kangaroo boys! What part of not having a good feel for bike setup do you guys not understand? Seven time (?) champion Jeff Fucking Stanton couldn't set a bike up either. But he put the fucking work in to make it happen. You ever see a guy look so not naturally talented as Stanton? But he kicked some serious ass. That's what I always respected about Stanton, he worked his ass off while Bayle roosted his name in the hillside.
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Oh, forgot this....Wink
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5/4/2014 5:51pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2014 5:51pm
newmann wrote:
Back the fuck off Kangaroo boys! What part of not having a good feel for bike setup do you guys not understand? Seven time (?) champion...
Back the fuck off Kangaroo boys! What part of not having a good feel for bike setup do you guys not understand? Seven time (?) champion Jeff Fucking Stanton couldn't set a bike up either. But he put the fucking work in to make it happen. You ever see a guy look so not naturally talented as Stanton? But he kicked some serious ass. That's what I always respected about Stanton, he worked his ass off while Bayle roosted his name in the hillside.
Don't know who you're getting your information from bud but there's a bunch of mechs like Goose, Lars, Oscar and Mitch etc who are on record saying Reed is one of the best test riders they've worked with and he knows exactly how to set up a bike how he likes and his bike definitely looked better than RV's at the beginning of the season.
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I guess no-talent guys like Trey Canard & Greg Albertson only go as fast as they go on the Honda because they're not smart enough to know better. If they were smart and fast like Reed, they would know the truth.

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davistld01 wrote:
I guess no-talent guys like Trey Canard & Greg Albertson only go as fast as they go on the Honda because they're not smart enough to...
I guess no-talent guys like Trey Canard & Greg Albertson only go as fast as they go on the Honda because they're not smart enough to know better. If they were smart and fast like Reed, they would know the truth.
Gregg?

Jimmy!

Trey seems to gel with it sure, but he's also a company man through and through. Trey wouldn't say anything bad about someone less it was that shady character in the bible.

Barcia and Eli have been pretty open about their struggles with it tho.
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5/4/2014 6:11pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2014 6:12pm
davistld01 wrote:
I guess no-talent guys like Trey Canard & Greg Albertson only go as fast as they go on the Honda because they're not smart enough to...
I guess no-talent guys like Trey Canard & Greg Albertson only go as fast as they go on the Honda because they're not smart enough to know better. If they were smart and fast like Reed, they would know the truth.
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Gregg? Jimmy! Trey seems to gel with it sure, but he's also a company man through and through. Trey wouldn't say anything bad about someone less...
Gregg?

Jimmy!

Trey seems to gel with it sure, but he's also a company man through and through. Trey wouldn't say anything bad about someone less it was that shady character in the bible.

Barcia and Eli have been pretty open about their struggles with it tho.
Oh, crap...yeah, Jimmy!!!Blush Long day, bro...tired.

Barcia, yeah...but my own little opinion is that Tomac just can't get comfy on a 450, period, yet any way. He's perfected the art of throwing a 250f around like a toy while keeping the throttle pinned...but that doesn't work on the 450's so much. I think he'll get it figured out in 2015 though.
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Eli has only looked good when there has been a lot of front end traction. Any other race he's been searching for every little nook and rut, outside fluff etc. Sounds a lot like what Chad described and Barcia has been struggling with too.

Whatever it is, I always laugh when a pro rider says he can't get comfortable and people question it. Sure some might be better testers than others but I bet all of them know when they feel good or not.
5/4/2014 6:15pm
Why does every bike that Chad rides start out good and then turn to crap? Blue, Green, Red.

The only bike that I can't remember him crying about is yellow. Wouldn't be surprised if my memory is failing me.

Now I don't know if these bikes are crap or not, and neither do you. What I do know is that each time Chad blames the bike I believe him less and less. Him shitting on the Honda was expected.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I didn't see anyone mention Reed's comment last night and it seemed like a pretty good slam towards big red. He also said "[b] I know...
I didn't see anyone mention Reed's comment last night and it seemed like a pretty good slam towards big red. He also said " I know from having to ride that bike last year......Barcia has a lot of talent to make that bike work the way he does "

99.999% of the planet wouldn't have an issue with that new Honda since we can't ride them like the way they do.....and some owners I've talked to have said they love them.

BUT....I did get a little laugh at what Chad said last night......he didn't pull any punches with that comment. Whistling Laughing
Put your self in Chad's shoes. He's not a regular weekly race commentators, Its a fast pace show - he is multitasking inside his head:

1) observing the race - 20 guys spread out hundreds of yards.

2) processing the action inside his head.

3) listen to what the other show host's are saying and processing that.

4) then in a fraction of a second, with no time to ponder, spit out (articulate) what ever you can come with in that millisecond.

When your on the hot seat on live TV and your not a regular weekly race commentators (and Chad isn't ) it can be freaking nerve racking.

Throw you self into this mix and see how you perform - ITS LIVE TV - Chad's a guest fill in.

Nit Picking and after the show is over!
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Fuck. Again.

The Honda changed completely and he wouldn't stop going on about how much he liked the 11 and 12. Fact he still does. Funny, the other Honda guys seem to be thinking the same.

The Kawi changed to a new frame from 10 to now and again, he says he loves it. Just like RV and Weimer

The 03/04 Yamaha he said he loved, they went to a completely new frame and frame material and he said he didn't like the change, same with DV and Ferry.

Who's the whiner. The pro stating his opinion on the bike (Which aligns with a bunch of other riders) or the guy constantly bitching on a forum?
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5/4/2014 6:58pm
Let's not forget that Barcia is getting off that red bike as soon as he can because he hates riding it.

Tomac wasn't out all that time before just because he was hurt, he hates the 450 too.....none of the Honda guys are happy with the bike, it's not a secret
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TripleFive wrote:
Reed bitches about bikes more than any other rider. If he's losing it is because of the bike.
You can't say he's wrong. He proves he really wasn't comfortable when he comes back on wins on the new bike he picked...
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VitalMX double standard at its finest.

"The rider interviews suck. All they do is thank their sponsors and they are robots.

Reed gives nothing but his honesty and point of view.

"All Reed does is bitch and complain about everything. He needs to shut up."

You just can't win with moto fans.
5/4/2014 7:08pm
Grizz wrote:
You can't say he's wrong. He proves he really wasn't comfortable when he comes back on wins on the new bike he picked...
Don't get this shit twisted.

I have ZERO problem with Chad saying he is uncomfortable on a particular bike.

I take umbrage with Chad throwing the bike under the bus and saying that the bike is bad for everyone, not just him.
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So the new Honda is an absolute pile of shit. Now is the time for the four foopty fan boys to step in and talk about how great of a bike it really is for the normal folk. And how the normal folk cant understand how to make a bike perform at that level.

Newsflash!!! Normal folk never knew how to make a 82 YZ100 perform at the level of Diamond Don's moto 3 either. Fast guys go fast, it's what they do. Laugh a minute around this joint!Laughing
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JJO741 wrote:
VitalMX double standard at its finest. "The rider interviews suck. All they do is thank their sponsors and they are robots. Reed gives nothing but his...
VitalMX double standard at its finest.

"The rider interviews suck. All they do is thank their sponsors and they are robots.

Reed gives nothing but his honesty and point of view.

"All Reed does is bitch and complain about everything. He needs to shut up."

You just can't win with moto fans.
Yep.

You and Grizz just pretty much summed up Vital.
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newmann wrote:
So the new Honda is an absolute pile of shit. Now is the time for the four foopty fan boys to step in and talk about...
So the new Honda is an absolute pile of shit. Now is the time for the four foopty fan boys to step in and talk about how great of a bike it really is for the normal folk. And how the normal folk cant understand how to make a bike perform at that level.

Newsflash!!! Normal folk never knew how to make a 82 YZ100 perform at the level of Diamond Don's moto 3 either. Fast guys go fast, it's what they do. Laugh a minute around this joint!Laughing
well you know the shit is getting deep when people are taking umbrage..
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JJO741 wrote:
VitalMX double standard at its finest. "The rider interviews suck. All they do is thank their sponsors and they are robots. Reed gives nothing but his...
VitalMX double standard at its finest.

"The rider interviews suck. All they do is thank their sponsors and they are robots.

Reed gives nothing but his honesty and point of view.

"All Reed does is bitch and complain about everything. He needs to shut up."

You just can't win with moto fans.
Crush wrote:
Yep.

You and Grizz just pretty much summed up Vital.
That guy might be lubed up on Large Quantities of Alcoholic Beverages.

JJO741 yelling at Chad Reed "you needs to shut up."

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5/4/2014 7:27pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2014 8:16pm
CASH476 wrote:
Jesus Newman, I thought you would have known that the Kawi reed rode years ago (prior to ,12) and the one he is on now are...
Jesus Newman, I thought you would have known that the Kawi reed rode years ago (prior to ,12) and the one he is on now are completely different. Never let the details get in the way of a good story huh?
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Or the Honda being completely different in 13 as it was in 11/12... Cement in the frames? Where did these rumours come from, a drunk in...
Or the Honda being completely different in 13 as it was in 11/12...

Cement in the frames? Where did these rumours come from, a drunk in a bar?
Didn't RV even ride better on the 2012? When he changed he started kickin ass, but not so much in beginning of season.
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Tomac looked great winning a moto on CRF450 at the '12 MEC
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Hut wrote:
Tomac looked great winning a moto on CRF450 at the '12 MEC
He's not done a lot since then and has been pretty vocal about struggling with setup.
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Electro wrote:
Didn't RV even ride better on the 2012? When he changed he started kickin ass, but not so much in beginning of season.
Yep. Unadilla 2011. New 2012 frame comes in. RV looks a thousand times better. Weimer too.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I didn't see anyone mention Reed's comment last night and it seemed like a pretty good slam towards big red. He also said "[b] I know...
I didn't see anyone mention Reed's comment last night and it seemed like a pretty good slam towards big red. He also said " I know from having to ride that bike last year......Barcia has a lot of talent to make that bike work the way he does "

99.999% of the planet wouldn't have an issue with that new Honda since we can't ride them like the way they do.....and some owners I've talked to have said they love them.

BUT....I did get a little laugh at what Chad said last night......he didn't pull any punches with that comment. Whistling Laughing
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Put your self in Chad's shoes. He's not a regular weekly race commentators, Its a fast pace show - he is multitasking inside his head: 1)...
Put your self in Chad's shoes. He's not a regular weekly race commentators, Its a fast pace show - he is multitasking inside his head:

1) observing the race - 20 guys spread out hundreds of yards.

2) processing the action inside his head.

3) listen to what the other show host's are saying and processing that.

4) then in a fraction of a second, with no time to ponder, spit out (articulate) what ever you can come with in that millisecond.

When your on the hot seat on live TV and your not a regular weekly race commentators (and Chad isn't ) it can be freaking nerve racking.

Throw you self into this mix and see how you perform - ITS LIVE TV - Chad's a guest fill in.

Nit Picking and after the show is over!
I wasn't nit-picking man.....I just made an observation on what Chad said last night. You would be hard pressed to find a big Reed fan than I am. I actually really dig the dudes honesty in the matter.
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newmann wrote:
Back the fuck off Kangaroo boys! What part of not having a good feel for bike setup do you guys not understand? Seven time (?) champion...
Back the fuck off Kangaroo boys! What part of not having a good feel for bike setup do you guys not understand? Seven time (?) champion Jeff Fucking Stanton couldn't set a bike up either. But he put the fucking work in to make it happen. You ever see a guy look so not naturally talented as Stanton? But he kicked some serious ass. That's what I always respected about Stanton, he worked his ass off while Bayle roosted his name in the hillside.
Crush wrote:
Don't know who you're getting your information from bud but there's a bunch of mechs like Goose, Lars, Oscar and Mitch etc who are on record...
Don't know who you're getting your information from bud but there's a bunch of mechs like Goose, Lars, Oscar and Mitch etc who are on record saying Reed is one of the best test riders they've worked with and he knows exactly how to set up a bike how he likes and his bike definitely looked better than RV's at the beginning of the season.
Reed needs to look at himself and not the bike. He's crashed on on...a Kawasaki...a Honda...and the a Kawasaki again.

he may have looked better at the beginning of the season, but the season means the beginning, the middle, and the end.
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Hut wrote:
Tomac looked great winning a moto on CRF450 at the '12 MEC
Crush wrote:
He's not done a lot since then and has been pretty vocal about struggling with setup.
True
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5/4/2014 7:51pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2014 7:52pm
rebus wrote:
Reed needs to look at himself and not the bike. He's crashed on on...a Kawasaki...a Honda...and the a Kawasaki again. he may have looked better at...
Reed needs to look at himself and not the bike. He's crashed on on...a Kawasaki...a Honda...and the a Kawasaki again.

he may have looked better at the beginning of the season, but the season means the beginning, the middle, and the end.
???? What are you on about? They're completely different issues. All the pros crash at one time or another. Cite me a time when he's crashed and said "it's the bike, it's the bike"

Occasionally crashing because you're pushing it like Millville 11 or Dallas 12 and talking about not being comfortable with bike setup, ie the 2013 bike aren't the same thing at all. San Diego this year a rider got a little jiggy in front of him and clipped a wheel.

You're reaching. Far.
5/4/2014 9:25pm
TripleFive wrote:
Reed bitches about bikes more than any other rider. If he's losing it is because of the bike.
here we fucking go again
5/4/2014 10:11pm
newmann wrote:
Back the fuck off Kangaroo boys! What part of not having a good feel for bike setup do you guys not understand? Seven time (?) champion...
Back the fuck off Kangaroo boys! What part of not having a good feel for bike setup do you guys not understand? Seven time (?) champion Jeff Fucking Stanton couldn't set a bike up either. But he put the fucking work in to make it happen. You ever see a guy look so not naturally talented as Stanton? But he kicked some serious ass. That's what I always respected about Stanton, he worked his ass off while Bayle roosted his name in the hillside.
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JJO741 wrote:
VitalMX double standard at its finest. "The rider interviews suck. All they do is thank their sponsors and they are robots. Reed gives nothing but his...
VitalMX double standard at its finest.

"The rider interviews suck. All they do is thank their sponsors and they are robots.

Reed gives nothing but his honesty and point of view.

"All Reed does is bitch and complain about everything. He needs to shut up."

You just can't win with moto fans.
Crush wrote:
Yep.

You and Grizz just pretty much summed up Vital.
JACK_Schit wrote:
That guy might be lubed up on Large Quantities of Alcoholic Beverages. JJO741 yelling at Chad Reed "you needs to shut up." [img]http://gfor3.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Brian-kelly-screaming-4.jpg[/img]
That guy might be lubed up on Large Quantities of Alcoholic Beverages.

JJO741 yelling at Chad Reed "you needs to shut up."

Lol what?
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TripleFive wrote:
Reed bitches about bikes more than any other rider. If he's losing it is because of the bike.
It's widely stated that the Honda isn't that good. Barcia was slamming it and even Eli. When there's smoke, there's fire.

Post a reply to: Reed's comment " Barcia has a bunch of talent to make that bike work ".

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