Is 15 weeks to long for these guys to get a break?

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Edited Date/Time 4/7/2014 11:33am
Taking Easter Weekend off after 14-15 weeks seems pointless.

They need a weekend off every 5-6 weeks, I think We are literally beating our riders and team personal down with this grind.
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scooter5002 4/6/2014 9:52am
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Maybe less races and a 4 race max before a weekend off. Of course, that would mean less profit for someone, and juggling a schedule. Seems like a lot to ask of someone riding a desk, and doesn't actually RACE in this series. Oh my, did I just say that?
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IceMan446 4/6/2014 9:56am
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why not a two week break in the middle?

Would allow for teams and privateers to get stuff handled and ready for the second part of the season and allow riders to heal up a little bit after a lot of hard racing.
FlickitFlat 4/6/2014 10:36am
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I think it is good they are taking off for Easter. Why don't they have double headers at some of the events? Say 3 or 4 of them. That would solve the problem.
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ocscottie 4/6/2014 10:43am
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I said something the same last night, after a little booze: Whistling

"the series is too fucking long. 17 races in 18 weeks is insanity. Knock it down to 15 and give them 3 weeks off.

But it will never happen, $$$ hungry suits dont give a fuck that 1/3 of the field is depleted by round 14. Look at RX injury report and all the sicknesses. These dudes are warriors and put their bodies through hell."

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ATKpilot99 4/6/2014 10:57am
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ocscottie wrote:
I said something the same last night, after a little booze: :whistle: [i]"the series is too fucking long. 17 races in 18 weeks is insanity. Knock...
I said something the same last night, after a little booze: Whistling

"the series is too fucking long. 17 races in 18 weeks is insanity. Knock it down to 15 and give them 3 weeks off.

But it will never happen, $$$ hungry suits dont give a fuck that 1/3 of the field is depleted by round 14. Look at RX injury report and all the sicknesses. These dudes are warriors and put their bodies through hell."
How about a couple rounds In Dec. then a holiday break then a 2 weekends off during the remaining 15 rounds. They used to do the WSX rounds in December.
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ocscottie wrote:
I said something the same last night, after a little booze: :whistle: [i]"the series is too fucking long. 17 races in 18 weeks is insanity. Knock...
I said something the same last night, after a little booze: Whistling

"the series is too fucking long. 17 races in 18 weeks is insanity. Knock it down to 15 and give them 3 weeks off.

But it will never happen, $$$ hungry suits dont give a fuck that 1/3 of the field is depleted by round 14. Look at RX injury report and all the sicknesses. These dudes are warriors and put their bodies through hell."
Thats true! Unfortunately that's the way of the world now. Someone is making A LOT of money on these guys and if you told that same someone "Hey, these guys need a break every once and while" they would just laugh. Its the same across all sports. The seasons keep getting longer so the suits can make more.
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ocscottie wrote:
I said something the same last night, after a little booze: :whistle: [i]"the series is too fucking long. 17 races in 18 weeks is insanity. Knock...
I said something the same last night, after a little booze: Whistling

"the series is too fucking long. 17 races in 18 weeks is insanity. Knock it down to 15 and give them 3 weeks off.

But it will never happen, $$$ hungry suits dont give a fuck that 1/3 of the field is depleted by round 14. Look at RX injury report and all the sicknesses. These dudes are warriors and put their bodies through hell."
PTECH wrote:
Thats true! Unfortunately that's the way of the world now. Someone is making A LOT of money on these guys and if you told that same...
Thats true! Unfortunately that's the way of the world now. Someone is making A LOT of money on these guys and if you told that same someone "Hey, these guys need a break every once and while" they would just laugh. Its the same across all sports. The seasons keep getting longer so the suits can make more.
Hmm, again an American that thinks that America is the world! Nobody else submits their athletes to the schedules that the US does. Why is so important to have race EVERY week? F1, Motogp, MXgp, WSB all manage to have breaks between most races. Why not you?
Riders burnt out and broken means the spectacle is diminished. It's a shame US TV and promoters can't understand this.....
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Cygnus 4/6/2014 11:33am
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Screw that should be racing weds nights too. Get this over with and get to the real racing. MX !
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jonjon714 4/6/2014 11:34am
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Man...just think about the amount of travel the teams have the last three rounds. Seattle all the way to Jersey and then back to Vegas. Burnt-the freak-out man!
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mrquick 4/6/2014 11:43am
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Giving them a couple weeks off doesn't mean they don't have to practice.
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jonjon714 wrote:
Man...just think about the amount of travel the teams have the last three rounds. Seattle all the way to Jersey and then back to Vegas. Burnt-the...
Man...just think about the amount of travel the teams have the last three rounds. Seattle all the way to Jersey and then back to Vegas. Burnt-the freak-out man!
outside of the Truck drivers, I doubt the travel has much impact , 2 hrs more for the riders and most train in Florida so NJ would be closer.
This isn't the old day's with the riders driving everywhere although I think they would benefit from driving to as many rounds as possible to avoid airports and their germ factories.
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Bosco 4/6/2014 12:53pm
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In reality, if the riders were given weekends off, they'd be training on those days off, not resting. Anything to get an edge on the other guy.
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Bosco wrote:
In reality, if the riders were given weekends off, they'd be training on those days off, not resting. Anything to get an edge on the other...
In reality, if the riders were given weekends off, they'd be training on those days off, not resting. Anything to get an edge on the other guy.
No they wouldn't , many of them could take a much needed break, The science is, work 24/7 is not good for performance and even if they trained a little taking the travel out would help.

I think some people have the misconception that these guy's run on a tread mill like a hamster round the clock.
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KMC440 4/6/2014 1:19pm
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Five rounds in Cali with a 15 round season .... a Seattle and Phoenix round ... hmmmm doesn't look too good for the rest of the country ... Blink Sad
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PalerBlue wrote:
Hmm, again an American that thinks that America is the world! Nobody else submits their athletes to the schedules that the US does. Why is so...
Hmm, again an American that thinks that America is the world! Nobody else submits their athletes to the schedules that the US does. Why is so important to have race EVERY week? F1, Motogp, MXgp, WSB all manage to have breaks between most races. Why not you?
Riders burnt out and broken means the spectacle is diminished. It's a shame US TV and promoters can't understand this.....
This^ to an extent,as much as it's demanding,and hard work, there are so many of our motorsports that are no different,most practice, train and test during every week anyhow

The US MX series, in and outdoors at least has it all said and done in one day,and I guess guys get to sleep in their own bed most of the time without country hopping,it's a bit of a trade off I suppose, but i agree there should be a longer break from SX to MX
Spongebob 4/6/2014 2:40pm
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We should just cancel the whole SX season so no one gets tired or hurt. It's just too hard on the poor riders.
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BobbyM 4/6/2014 3:04pm
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Cygnus wrote:
Screw that should be racing weds nights too. Get this over with and get to the real racing. MX !
fucking eh!
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Bosco wrote:
In reality, if the riders were given weekends off, they'd be training on those days off, not resting. Anything to get an edge on the other...
In reality, if the riders were given weekends off, they'd be training on those days off, not resting. Anything to get an edge on the other guy.
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No they wouldn't , many of them could take a much needed break, The science is, work 24/7 is not good for performance and even if...
No they wouldn't , many of them could take a much needed break, The science is, work 24/7 is not good for performance and even if they trained a little taking the travel out would help.

I think some people have the misconception that these guy's run on a tread mill like a hamster round the clock.
they do and they are ignorant., lets have training camp all year around...we'll kick ass. hahaha...

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Brent 4/6/2014 3:44pm
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The fact they go 16 weeks without a break is ludicrous, Feld needs to re- think this if they want quality racing at the end. Right about now nobody gives a shit and they are probably all suffering from burnout.

Its not the racing, its the travel and the PR they have to do that seems to be the killer.
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ocscottie wrote:
I said something the same last night, after a little booze: :whistle: [i]"the series is too fucking long. 17 races in 18 weeks is insanity. Knock...
I said something the same last night, after a little booze: Whistling

"the series is too fucking long. 17 races in 18 weeks is insanity. Knock it down to 15 and give them 3 weeks off.

But it will never happen, $$$ hungry suits dont give a fuck that 1/3 of the field is depleted by round 14. Look at RX injury report and all the sicknesses. These dudes are warriors and put their bodies through hell."
PTECH wrote:
Thats true! Unfortunately that's the way of the world now. Someone is making A LOT of money on these guys and if you told that same...
Thats true! Unfortunately that's the way of the world now. Someone is making A LOT of money on these guys and if you told that same someone "Hey, these guys need a break every once and while" they would just laugh. Its the same across all sports. The seasons keep getting longer so the suits can make more.
PalerBlue wrote:
Hmm, again an American that thinks that America is the world! Nobody else submits their athletes to the schedules that the US does. Why is so...
Hmm, again an American that thinks that America is the world! Nobody else submits their athletes to the schedules that the US does. Why is so important to have race EVERY week? F1, Motogp, MXgp, WSB all manage to have breaks between most races. Why not you?
Riders burnt out and broken means the spectacle is diminished. It's a shame US TV and promoters can't understand this.....
Where in his post does it refer to anything to do with America or the world? Are you drunk?
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Juss 4/6/2014 4:05pm
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I think one week off b4 Daytona and one at Eater would be good. Then maybe a month between the MX Series. Who cares if they have to race into September/October. They would still get 2- 3 months off b4 A1
the original 652 4/6/2014 4:21pm
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Well my neighbour was a NHL Hockey player, I would guess he was training, playing and traveling a lot more than most motocross racers ever will, he was in 3-4 cites a week for a game and they had practice in the morning before every game. This seemed to me like it would go on for close to 9 months most years. In the summer he was also training a lot, the number of times I would see him out running and going of to summer camp seemed endless to me.
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ford832 4/6/2014 5:21pm
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F1 runs most weekends oncet hey get going,testing,promos as well.Jenson Button likes to unwind on an odd weekend off by running Triathalons.Smile Just a Brit that was born on the wrong side of the pond.....Wink
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IWreckALot 4/6/2014 5:57pm
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I'm trying to convince myself that the series would be more competitive or interesting with less races and more breaks. I'm not seeing it that way. I think RV still finds a way to win the championship. I'm speculating that a lot of racers have a bonus structure that pays them for main events. With fewer races, there are fewer opportunities to make money.

Not saying it's a bad idea, but it seems like everyone has just assumed a lot and there might be more to it than has been mentioned. I'd be curious to see what the riders want. I haven't heard anyone complain about the schedule except that they call it grueling. Looking at other sports, it's relatively similar. Football players get one by week a season, hockey and basketball players play multiple games per week. Not saying SX is the same but I think the schedule is manageable.
TripleFive 4/6/2014 6:01pm
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I think it's dumb to pretend to know what these guys need.

I also think it's dumb that there isn't a riders union to address concerns like this.
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rebus 4/6/2014 6:04pm
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500guy wrote:
Taking Easter Weekend off after 14-15 weeks seems pointless. They need a weekend off every 5-6 weeks, I think We are literally beating our riders and...
Taking Easter Weekend off after 14-15 weeks seems pointless.

They need a weekend off every 5-6 weeks, I think We are literally beating our riders and team personal down with this grind.
Some people have to work year round for 30 years. I've seen enough instagram pictures to know it's not all work and no play for these guys.
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the original 652 wrote:
Well my neighbour was a NHL Hockey player, I would guess he was training, playing and traveling a lot more than most motocross racers ever will...
Well my neighbour was a NHL Hockey player, I would guess he was training, playing and traveling a lot more than most motocross racers ever will, he was in 3-4 cites a week for a game and they had practice in the morning before every game. This seemed to me like it would go on for close to 9 months most years. In the summer he was also training a lot, the number of times I would see him out running and going of to summer camp seemed endless to me.
No different that the NFL, They get one break during the season and they travel and practice and get the hell beat out of them each week but you don't hear about food poisoning from them as an excuse. But then again you don't hear a lot of complaining from the riders about the how many races they have without a break, its mostly just the arm chair quarterbacks who want to bitch about something.
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Grizz 4/6/2014 6:08pm
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jonjon714 wrote:
Man...just think about the amount of travel the teams have the last three rounds. Seattle all the way to Jersey and then back to Vegas. Burnt-the...
Man...just think about the amount of travel the teams have the last three rounds. Seattle all the way to Jersey and then back to Vegas. Burnt-the freak-out man!
500guy wrote:
outside of the Truck drivers, I doubt the travel has much impact , 2 hrs more for the riders and most train in Florida so NJ...
outside of the Truck drivers, I doubt the travel has much impact , 2 hrs more for the riders and most train in Florida so NJ would be closer.
This isn't the old day's with the riders driving everywhere although I think they would benefit from driving to as many rounds as possible to avoid airports and their germ factories.
Avoiding germs lowers your immune system and makes it easier to get much more ill.
Isn't that common sense?
TripleFive 4/6/2014 6:26pm
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jonjon714 wrote:
Man...just think about the amount of travel the teams have the last three rounds. Seattle all the way to Jersey and then back to Vegas. Burnt-the...
Man...just think about the amount of travel the teams have the last three rounds. Seattle all the way to Jersey and then back to Vegas. Burnt-the freak-out man!
500guy wrote:
outside of the Truck drivers, I doubt the travel has much impact , 2 hrs more for the riders and most train in Florida so NJ...
outside of the Truck drivers, I doubt the travel has much impact , 2 hrs more for the riders and most train in Florida so NJ would be closer.
This isn't the old day's with the riders driving everywhere although I think they would benefit from driving to as many rounds as possible to avoid airports and their germ factories.
Grizz wrote:
Avoiding germs lowers your immune system and makes it easier to get much more ill.
Isn't that common sense?
Are you really trying to suggest that a break would increase the riders likelihood of falling ill because they are not exposed to the same amount of germs?
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Socket946 4/6/2014 7:32pm
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I agree with 500guy.

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