RV + IV = No race right ?

Derpin' DJ wrote:

I don't understand how so many riders get food poisoning? I've never had it in my life.

bartoner wrote:

What is the deal with riders and food poisoning? Seems like its every week someone has it. I would think with the healthy diets most these...

What is the deal with riders and food poisoning? Seems like its every week someone has it. I would think with the healthy diets most these guys are on it wouldn't happen as much as it seems like it does.

flarider wrote:

Travel thing. Unfamiliar restaurants and just part of the horrors of travel Why I eat at only busy chain restaurants when on the road, I will...

Travel thing. Unfamiliar restaurants and just part of the horrors of travel

Why I eat at only busy chain restaurants when on the road, I will not do "mom & pop" restaurants or restaurants that are not busy

S.Loyer wrote:

Do you guys really think that JS and RD want to win the race (Championship) on a technicality? As a racer, I would rather have my...

Do you guys really think that JS and RD want to win the race (Championship) on a technicality?
As a racer, I would rather have my rivals on the track with doing everything I would do to get out there.
There is more honor beating someone who is trying everything they can, then just winning on a technicality.

bartoner wrote:

What is the deal with riders and food poisoning? Seems like its every week someone has it. I would think with the healthy diets most these...

What is the deal with riders and food poisoning? Seems like its every week someone has it. I would think with the healthy diets most these guys are on it wouldn't happen as much as it seems like it does.

flarider wrote:

Travel thing. Unfamiliar restaurants and just part of the horrors of travel Why I eat at only busy chain restaurants when on the road, I will...

Travel thing. Unfamiliar restaurants and just part of the horrors of travel

Why I eat at only busy chain restaurants when on the road, I will not do "mom & pop" restaurants or restaurants that are not busy

DonM wrote:

Many people mistake a case of the flu with food poisoning, I'm always very skeptical of all the food poisoning claims that people have in general...

Many people mistake a case of the flu with food poisoning, I'm always very skeptical of all the food poisoning claims that people have in general. There is a nasty strain of flu going on right now and with Josh Grant also being sick and also riding at RV's place I would think that a case of the flu is more probable.
Either way I hope both of them feel better and are able to race tonight.

flarider wrote:

Travel thing. Unfamiliar restaurants and just part of the horrors of travel Why I eat at only busy chain restaurants when on the road, I will...

Travel thing. Unfamiliar restaurants and just part of the horrors of travel

Why I eat at only busy chain restaurants when on the road, I will not do "mom & pop" restaurants or restaurants that are not busy

DonM wrote:

Many people mistake a case of the flu with food poisoning, I'm always very skeptical of all the food poisoning claims that people have in general...

Many people mistake a case of the flu with food poisoning, I'm always very skeptical of all the food poisoning claims that people have in general. There is a nasty strain of flu going on right now and with Josh Grant also being sick and also riding at RV's place I would think that a case of the flu is more probable.
Either way I hope both of them feel better and are able to race tonight.

Electro wrote:

Maybe they're eating the same thing Lol

BobbyM wrote:

yup.... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/03/22/49061/s1200_wheels_off_the_bus.jpg[/img]

yup....

kongols wrote:

Reed is on a same page as Flarider. No IV period.

DBerg wrote:

Food poisoning can happen regardless of how healthy and controlled the diet. It doesn't necessarily mean the food is bad. It can come from cross contamination...

Food poisoning can happen regardless of how healthy and controlled the diet. It doesn't necessarily mean the food is bad. It can come from cross contamination too. Someone with dirty hands, or RV having dirty hands when eating. So it doesn't always mean you get sick from the food. It could be a vehicle for other contaminants to get in your body. Someone could have gas/oil/grease on their hand, eat a perfectly healthy sandwich and end up sick.
*Just refering to the post questioning how he could possibly get food poisoning when they pay trainers to control their diet.

berno929 wrote:

4.6 Intravenous Hydration a. At no time during the event will a rider receive any type of intravenous hydration unless such hydration is deemed medically necessary...

4.6 Intravenous Hydration
a. At no time during the event will a rider receive any type of
intravenous hydration unless such hydration is deemed
medically necessary by medical personnel as a result of an
emergency medical situation (e.g. heat stroke) encountered by
a rider, during, or as a result of competing in, an event,
practices, heat races or qualifying sessions that are part of an
event.
b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider
will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the
meet including, but not limited to, any further practice
sessions, heat races, qualifying sessions or final events
composing any event in the meet unless and until the rider is
released by the medical personnel who treats the rider for the
specific emergency medical situation at issue.

Am I the only one who thinks that last part means that the medical crew can let him ride even if he gets IV during the event?

DBerg wrote:

Food poisoning can happen regardless of how healthy and controlled the diet. It doesn't necessarily mean the food is bad. It can come from cross contamination...

Food poisoning can happen regardless of how healthy and controlled the diet. It doesn't necessarily mean the food is bad. It can come from cross contamination too. Someone with dirty hands, or RV having dirty hands when eating. So it doesn't always mean you get sick from the food. It could be a vehicle for other contaminants to get in your body. Someone could have gas/oil/grease on their hand, eat a perfectly healthy sandwich and end up sick.
*Just refering to the post questioning how he could possibly get food poisoning when they pay trainers to control their diet.

Juss wrote:

Ya im sure RVs wrench is cooking his food lol

DBerg wrote:

Food poisoning can happen regardless of how healthy and controlled the diet. It doesn't necessarily mean the food is bad. It can come from cross contamination...

Food poisoning can happen regardless of how healthy and controlled the diet. It doesn't necessarily mean the food is bad. It can come from cross contamination too. Someone with dirty hands, or RV having dirty hands when eating. So it doesn't always mean you get sick from the food. It could be a vehicle for other contaminants to get in your body. Someone could have gas/oil/grease on their hand, eat a perfectly healthy sandwich and end up sick.
*Just refering to the post questioning how he could possibly get food poisoning when they pay trainers to control their diet.

Juss wrote:

Ya im sure RVs wrench is cooking his food lol

berno929 wrote:

4.6 Intravenous Hydration a. At no time during the event will a rider receive any type of intravenous hydration unless such hydration is deemed medically necessary...

4.6 Intravenous Hydration
a. At no time during the event will a rider receive any type of
intravenous hydration unless such hydration is deemed
medically necessary by medical personnel as a result of an
emergency medical situation (e.g. heat stroke) encountered by
a rider, during, or as a result of competing in, an event,
practices, heat races or qualifying sessions that are part of an
event.
b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider
will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the
meet including, but not limited to, any further practice
sessions, heat races, qualifying sessions or final events
composing any event in the meet unless and until the rider is
released by the medical personnel who treats the rider for the
specific emergency medical situation at issue.

Am I the only one who thinks that last part means that the medical crew can let him ride even if he gets IV during the event?

TripleFive wrote:

Your reading seems correct to me.

DBerg wrote:

Food poisoning can happen regardless of how healthy and controlled the diet. It doesn't necessarily mean the food is bad. It can come from cross contamination...

Food poisoning can happen regardless of how healthy and controlled the diet. It doesn't necessarily mean the food is bad. It can come from cross contamination too. Someone with dirty hands, or RV having dirty hands when eating. So it doesn't always mean you get sick from the food. It could be a vehicle for other contaminants to get in your body. Someone could have gas/oil/grease on their hand, eat a perfectly healthy sandwich and end up sick.
*Just refering to the post questioning how he could possibly get food poisoning when they pay trainers to control their diet.

Juss wrote:

Ya im sure RVs wrench is cooking his food lol

DBerg wrote:

How did you get that from what I said? You'd be surprised how easily cross contamination can happen. What someone can touch something, someone else touches...

How did you get that from what I said? You'd be surprised how easily cross contamination can happen. What someone can touch something, someone else touches that and something else that RV picks up, RV doesn't wash hands properly, and there you go.

flarider wrote:

[i]b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the meet including...

b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider
will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the
meet including, but not limited to, any further practice
sessions, heat races, qualifying sessions or final events
composing any event in the meet unless and until the rider is
released by the medical personnel who treats the rider for the
specific emergency medical situation at issue.

You also realize that by that wording, any doctor can administer and clear a rider.

So if I SAY I have the shits, cramps and vomiting, and my best bud, Dr Greg, agrees, and gives me an IV between motos or heats, and then clears me, I'm good to go.

It doesn't specify "race medical personnel" but only says "the medical personnel who treats the rider for the
specific emergency medical situation at issue."

So, I bring my own doctor, or PA or even nurse, and receive treatment and then cleared by my own medical staff, I can bypass that rule entirely

Think that's within the spirit of the rule?

All a team has to do now, is have it's own staff physician or "medical personnel" and a rider can take an IV at any time

Right?

Uncleof2 wrote:

Wow, how about I hope the guy is alright.

flarider wrote:

I believe it goes without saying that everyone hopes he will be OK, but the discussion is also in regards to the rules and/or the application...

I believe it goes without saying that everyone hopes he will be OK, but the discussion is also in regards to the rules and/or the application of them.

berno929 wrote:

4.6 Intravenous Hydration a. At no time during the event will a rider receive any type of intravenous hydration unless such hydration is deemed medically necessary...

4.6 Intravenous Hydration
a. At no time during the event will a rider receive any type of
intravenous hydration unless such hydration is deemed
medically necessary by medical personnel as a result of an
emergency medical situation (e.g. heat stroke) encountered by
a rider, during, or as a result of competing in, an event,
practices, heat races or qualifying sessions that are part of an
event.
b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider
will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the
meet including, but not limited to, any further practice
sessions, heat races, qualifying sessions or final events
composing any event in the meet unless and until the rider is
released by the medical personnel who treats the rider for the
specific emergency medical situation at issue.

Am I the only one who thinks that last part means that the medical crew can let him ride even if he gets IV during the event?

TripleFive wrote:

Your reading seems correct to me.

flarider wrote:

[i]b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the meet including...

b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider
will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the
meet including, but not limited to, any further practice
sessions, heat races, qualifying sessions or final events
composing any event in the meet unless and until the rider is
released by the medical personnel who treats the rider for the
specific emergency medical situation at issue.

You also realize that by that wording, any doctor can administer and clear a rider.

So if I SAY I have the shits, cramps and vomiting, and my best bud, Dr Greg, agrees, and gives me an IV between motos or heats, and then clears me, I'm good to go.

It doesn't specify "race medical personnel" but only says "the medical personnel who treats the rider for the
specific emergency medical situation at issue."

So, I bring my own doctor, or PA or even nurse, and receive treatment and then cleared by my own medical staff, I can bypass that rule entirely

Think that's within the spirit of the rule?

All a team has to do now, is have it's own staff physician or "medical personnel" and a rider can take an IV at any time

Right?

500guy wrote:

At no time during the event , I read it like he should not be allowed to race. 23 4.6 Intravenous Hydration a. At no time...

At no time during the event , I read it like he should not be allowed to race.


23
4.6 Intravenous Hydration
a. At no time during the event will a rider receive any type of
intravenous hydration unless such hydration is deemed
medically necessary by medical personnel as a result of an
emergency medical situation (e.g. heat stroke) encountered by
a rider, during, or as a result of competing in, an event,
practices, heat races or qualifying sessions that are part of an
event.
b. Once a rider receives such hydration during the meet, the rider
will not be permitted to compete in any further events at the
meet including, but not limited to, any further practice
sessions, heat races, qualifying sessions or final events
composing any event in the meet unless and until the rider is
released by the medical personnel who treats the rider for the
specific emergency medical situation at issue.