Is motocross really as dangerous as it looks? Help convincing parents to let me ride

Edited Date/Time 1/18/2014 5:45pm
So I've had this problem for years now. I've wanted to start riding dirt bikes about 3 years ago and my parents always said it would never happen. I love watching races, I love just everything about the sport. I'm now a Sophomore in high school and I'm getting to that age where passions and things you want to do and would love to do aren't possible anymore. My parents want me to focus on school (Which i agree with and work really hard in school), and getting my permit and license and a job and all this stuff. I finally have almost enough money saved up to get into riding and my parents are completely adamant about me not riding. They have a few reasons, and I see their point and respect them for that, but they don't understand where I'm coming from:
1. They don't want me getting hurt
I completely understand and Ik this is a dangerous sport, but in reality, compared to other sports like hockey, football, skiing, snowboarding, skateboarding...it's not that different. I longboard and race bmx and do some street and to me that's equally, if not more dangerous. I mean going 30+mph on a piece of wood on a road with crazy drivers, no brakes......I mean really...
2. Wasting my money
This bothers me the most. If have a passion that you think you can make something out of and something you will greatly enjoy, you are not wasting your money. They say I should put it away for gas money when I get a car and money for my car and all this stuff, yea Ik it's important, but too me life is too short to worry about your future and how I need to save gas money. I mean I would rather walk everywhere and have a dirt bike, than have a car and not be happy because I'm not following a strong passion I have.

I understand where my parents are coming from and I love them to death and respect them, but it bothers me when every time I bring it up they either yell at me or just completely ignore me about it. I try to tell them just because I get a bike doesn't mean I need to race like the super cross pro's, doesn't mean I need to go 50 feet in the air, doesn't mean I need to push myself to the limit. I want a bike to just ride, because to me being on a bike is just amazing. When your riding you can just let everything go and just focus on the moment. I've been bullied and picked on my whole life and that plays a huge role in why I want to ride. I feel like you can throw on a helmet and the gear and if your a good rider it doesn't matter what you look like. I just want to be able to have something that I can challenge myself with and keep myself going with, something to motivate me. Please guys help!!! Is the sport really as dangerous as people say it is? Should I continue to try and ride or just give up and stop trying?
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1/16/2014 6:30pm
Bring em to a local race to talk to other parents
1/16/2014 6:34pm
It's pretty dangerous, depending on the circumstances. Where would you ride? How would you learn?

Maybe you can make them a deal: you promise your grades will increase a reasonable amount and then you make that happen. The bike goes away if your grades fall back down.

You come up with a good sales pitch about how you won't get hurt. You'll take a course, etc.

Worse case scenario: you wait a few years and buy the bike when you move out. I had to do that with my street bike. My license plate said "sory mom" and I took a picture next to it on my new street bike when I was gone and saved up enough for it. We still laugh about it now, but that was their deal. Dirt, no street. At the end of the day, it's their rules until you move out and support yourself. And they only want to stop you from it because they don't want to see you get hurt. It's something I grapple with about my son now: he's only 4, but that's when I started. But kids weren't hucking 120 ft. triples back then. It's pretty dangerous now and I worry about my own safety regularly despite having almost 40 years of experience.
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Ultimately, you live under their roof and must follow their rules. Until your are an "adult", and live on your own. At least that's how it worked for me.

I'm pretty sure if you asked anyone on this site, who has tried to ride at their "best"(fastest), if they have been busted up bad you will get a 100% response ratio Wink

Crsip BRAAAP! up above nailed it pretty much.
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1/16/2014 6:46pm
It is dangerous as shit that's for sure....but if u use all the shit that it teaches u in life (work ethic) it's priceless....for me it was anyway

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1/16/2014 6:48pm
You certainly sound to me like you have the right head on your shoulders to take on the challenge of a dirt bike.

But, to answer your question - yes, it is as dangerous as it looks. Especially in the beginner stages, which you will be going though in the event you score a bike to ride. But if you start slow, know your limits and give respect to the danger you can learn and grow as a rider. It takes years to learn how to get around a track "safely" but your BMX background will help for sure. If its what you want, go for it. All of the things you are looking for that you mentioned above can be found behind a set of handlebars.

Buy ALL the gear first. Full chest pro, knee braces, neck brace, expensive helmet and boots. When it comes to dirt bikes there are two types of people: Those who have been down, and those that are going down.
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Also, you don't have to "give up" your passion for riding, just put it off until you can. You stated you are a sophomore, so PRO aspirations are not really in the cards... learning to ride at 15 or 20 is practically no different. It's just hard on you mentally because of the whole youth "my life is passing me by" feelings.

If your 'rents won't budge, simply come up with a plan of when you will start riding. Money for the bike, gear, transportation, upkeep and where you can store it at. It's more expensive now then it ever has been, and you need to be prepared for that.

Good luck.
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1/16/2014 6:57pm
Angry You'll get your eye roosted out KID!!!!!!Whistling
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1/16/2014 7:00pm
my mom was the same.
her boyfriend at the time,now husband,had a motorcycle in the past.
one day,i approached them while mom was in a very relaxed moment,asked for x amount of money to match the amount in my pocket to get first mini bike.he reached into his pocket ,although mom wasn't for it,then gave me safety rules etc as I thankfully took money.
moral of story,timing.
I can say this much,the passion you have seems to be the same as what I had.
I didn't have erge to drink back then,but something tells me,i could of gone that direction if never got into bikes.maybe that may wake them up.
keep your grades up if you do end up buying a bike.show them you area responsible young adult.
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1/16/2014 7:10pm
oh,the dangerous part.
well,you will take your spills during the learning curves.how you approach your riding can be safe or risky.i went safe ,baby steps.and I mean baby steps.first race started last.lol.protective gear! emphasize to them you don't want to do this sport without protective gear.your are their baby.the more you vocally express protection for injuries,the easier their guard will drop.
also x2 as to what MIKE OXMALL said above.
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1/16/2014 7:11pm
It is dangerous. You WILL get hurt. How bad is always the question. And your parents know this.
If there is no convincing them then just wait. One day sooner than you think you can make that decision all by yourself. I am 46 and have never lost the itch to ride.
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1/16/2014 7:12pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2014 7:21pm
It is dangerous! Take mom& dad to a ride day and don't say a word & let them form their own opinion. They will see people having fun with friends & family. I think the more you ride the more control you have.I have been on a bike since I was 10 years old. And I have raced at the expert level and had my share of tip overs. I have two brothers one rides with me at the tracks & the other one is an elite level bicycle racer who logs hundreds of miles a month on the dirt& street. When I'm at the track I don't ever worry. about my brother or my self . Always worry about my other brother on the street with cars blowing by him. He's actually been grazed by a cars mirror! Our sport is dangerous but in my mind bicycles are way more dangerous with the little helmets they have and the fact that mass always prevails. My wife works in the local ER and I hear about every bicycle crash that happens in our area.
Way more bicycle injuries than moto.
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1/16/2014 7:13pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2014 7:14pm
yes. broken bones are a risk,

it's not if, it's when.

walking around the house after breaking bones and being in a cast to hear your mother say " I told you so" isn't worth the risk.
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1/16/2014 7:14pm
a plus would be to have an experienced rider show you the ropes to the sport the the parents would have trust in.
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1/16/2014 7:15pm
Start a thread on Vital titled "post your best xray pics!"

Show it to them... that'll convince them fo sho!
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Outsider wrote:
Start a thread on Vital titled "post your best xray pics!"

Show it to them... that'll convince them fo sho!
Take them to a Supercross and hope they don't notice all the 30 year old and younger people in Chairs.
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1/16/2014 7:19pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2014 7:20pm
It's the most dangerous sport in the world and I was just watching on YouTube a bunch of crashes and the one that took Jeremy Lusk's life. As much as I love this sport, I wish I never found it. I have lower back problems from casing big jumps and breaking my back that are giving me so much pain everyday and it wasn't worth the trophies or memories I have. Cruising around nice and easy is a different story than racing though. But adrenaline is very addictive and I found that Motocross did it best for me. Maybe you should take up base jumping, it's safer! Woohoo
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Oh come on guys for fuck sake, this isnt about Sam getting hurt, its about money.

Whats Sam going to do, blow $2000 on some old dirtbike that will cost him every time he goes riding? WITHOUT SUPPORT FROM HIS PARENTS he wont be able to do afford to maintain and ride his cheap old bike he will buy.

They're being realistic. They dont want... OR CAN'T AFFORD....to spend money on this and they can see him coming to them for help in his new "passion".

Sucks for Sam I know, but we all cant be blessed with parents who will spend the money that it takes for us to even sniff the enjoyment of mx.
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1/16/2014 7:25pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2014 7:28pm
When I was 15 I had the same response from my parents. I got a job and bought a bike. Brought it home and told them this is what I want to do. I was polite and respectful but firm and honest. I then went to a Gary Bailey MX school and subsequently a MX race the next day and earned a trophy. Brought the trophy home - placed it on the dining room table and smiled. I have never looked backSmile
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what size and stroke are you thinking about anyways.a real race bike or play bike.
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You think it looks dangerous? It is very. But , a lot of it is in your hands. Like going to a track, and riding right behind a guy who looks like he is gonna crash, he probably will, and there you are.
It is in my opinion, the funnest thing in the world to do. I have nice bikes, but my cars are not so nice, priorities. Like you said, it's your life, but you have to live with your parents rules for now. In the beginning, you could get bummed, bike breaks, you have bad crash. With bmx background, you will be able to ride decent. And boy will it be fun. Thing is, bikes are so good, you will feel like superman in the beginning, even though frankly, you suck. You will actually go way bigger and faster than you thought you could go, but you should really take baby steps, make sure you are good to go, not just 'go for it'. Try to balance the feelings of being superman and worried about getting hurt. Just ride like you know how, push a bit here and there, until you get comfy, then push a bit more. No showing off, or thinking you can actually go fast, because things can happen too quick, work up to things at an easy pace. Remember, even the very best crash, alot!
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you think your parents will be wasting your money.
ask them to reflect back into their life and they will realize the money they wasted away on a lot of stuff.
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1/16/2014 7:31pm
Yes it is dangerous but I have never once felt I had "wasted" money on dirt bikes okay well maybe the roost boost but you know what I mean.
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You guys sound like a bunch of jaded old vets.

His first post clearly stated he knows quite a bit about moto. He's aware it's dangerous, he isn't 6 years old.

Do what you can that get that bike, kid. But if your parents aren't adamant about it, don't worry, you have many MANY years ahead of you for motocross and dirtbikes.

A lot of guys start out on BMX and then naturally transition to moto. They usually have quite the knack for it as well Wink
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Roscoe33 wrote:
yes. broken bones are a risk, it's not if, it's when. walking around the house after breaking bones and being in a cast to hear your...
yes. broken bones are a risk,

it's not if, it's when.

walking around the house after breaking bones and being in a cast to hear your mother say " I told you so" isn't worth the risk.
So, your mommy didn't let you ride?
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1/16/2014 7:39pm
It is dangerous. Your parents need to know it's dangerous before you start. I would want them to know how dangerous is really is so they will take precautions like buying you GOOD protective equipment and having the proper medical insurance
1/16/2014 7:39pm
Riding and practice days...not so much.
Racing moreso. Especially in a pileup.

Way more chances of getting hit or hitting others.
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1/16/2014 7:40pm Edited Date/Time 1/16/2014 7:42pm
I've competed in sports my whole life, including Road Racing AMA Nationals and crashing at around 100mph numerous times, and all of my lingering pains that I will have forever are from being injured on Dirt Bikes. IMO its more dangerous than it looks. That being said I wouldn't change anything.

Being that you say you have been picked on and bullied your whole life I would recommend getting some self defense training and commit to being incredible at it. Not advocating fighting in anyway, but to know you can is not a bad thing.

As for convincing your parents to let you ride there is some great advice in this thread already. I think if you could get your parents to meet some other parents with kids that ride would help a lot.

Good luck with everything.
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1/16/2014 7:51pm
So I've had this problem for years now. I've wanted to start riding dirt bikes about 3 years ago and my parents always said it would...
So I've had this problem for years now. I've wanted to start riding dirt bikes about 3 years ago and my parents always said it would never happen. I love watching races, I love just everything about the sport. I'm now a Sophomore in high school and I'm getting to that age where passions and things you want to do and would love to do aren't possible anymore. My parents want me to focus on school (Which i agree with and work really hard in school), and getting my permit and license and a job and all this stuff. I finally have almost enough money saved up to get into riding and my parents are completely adamant about me not riding. They have a few reasons, and I see their point and respect them for that, but they don't understand where I'm coming from:
1. They don't want me getting hurt
I completely understand and Ik this is a dangerous sport, but in reality, compared to other sports like hockey, football, skiing, snowboarding, skateboarding...it's not that different. I longboard and race bmx and do some street and to me that's equally, if not more dangerous. I mean going 30+mph on a piece of wood on a road with crazy drivers, no brakes......I mean really...
2. Wasting my money
This bothers me the most. If have a passion that you think you can make something out of and something you will greatly enjoy, you are not wasting your money. They say I should put it away for gas money when I get a car and money for my car and all this stuff, yea Ik it's important, but too me life is too short to worry about your future and how I need to save gas money. I mean I would rather walk everywhere and have a dirt bike, than have a car and not be happy because I'm not following a strong passion I have.

I understand where my parents are coming from and I love them to death and respect them, but it bothers me when every time I bring it up they either yell at me or just completely ignore me about it. I try to tell them just because I get a bike doesn't mean I need to race like the super cross pro's, doesn't mean I need to go 50 feet in the air, doesn't mean I need to push myself to the limit. I want a bike to just ride, because to me being on a bike is just amazing. When your riding you can just let everything go and just focus on the moment. I've been bullied and picked on my whole life and that plays a huge role in why I want to ride. I feel like you can throw on a helmet and the gear and if your a good rider it doesn't matter what you look like. I just want to be able to have something that I can challenge myself with and keep myself going with, something to motivate me. Please guys help!!! Is the sport really as dangerous as people say it is? Should I continue to try and ride or just give up and stop trying?
If you can; and I know a lot of people have been providing advice (along w/ sarcastic comments), but if this is something you want to do, and like some have mentioned; you and your parents should go out to a race track locally and check it out. Try to find kids where you go to school at and see if they ride. Ask them questions. Get online w/ your parents and find out information; try to locate family friendly websites relating to off road riding (Blue Ribbon Coalition and perhaps the AMA website might be a good start...). Can it be dangerous? Sure...but so is driving a car, flying in an airplane, eating at McDonalds five times a week and crossing the street during rush hour. If you do things safely (wear proper riding gear, taking your time learning how to ride safely/proper fundamentals, and using good situational awareness while riding, proper bike maintenance); you will come to find out that you will experience something that is better than any kind of drug and still be relatively safe. You'll be outdoors getting exercise/staying active, reliving stress, and just plain having a good time. Even if you never set a knobby on a MX track and just go trail riding, think you'll be hooked on something that you will do for a lifetime and God willing, hopefully you'll get to share it w/ your kids and grandkids when that time comes. I hope you find a way to convince your parents to meet you half way and get the opportunity to get involved in this lifestyle. Best of luck to you...
1/16/2014 8:06pm
My opinion is is that moto cross "CAN" be dangerous and IS an injury prone sport but this all depends on you, your physical abilities, and quite a bit on your respect for what a bike is capable of. If you get all excited and ride like your bat shit crazy with your hair on fire you will probably be on a first name basis with your local ER doctors and nurses.
However ....if you progress at a reasonable pace and advance as your abilities allow......I think you would be just fine. Ive been in the sport for about 24 years now and like you got a very late start with it. (first bike at 18) I advanced fairly quickly and became pretty decent at it and though I have had a few misshapps and have been injured, most of those injuries were in actual competition. I no longer raced the past 8yrs but I ride my own SX style track 3+ days a week during the summer and have had no injuries more than taking some good sized rocks and hard dirt clumps in the knuckles , arms and chest off the back tires of my riding buddies 450! but welts go away and ya just go back for more! I would say Im more addicted to the sport now at 43 that I ever have been.....so you still have time so be patient.

Just realize that its highly unlikely that you will ever be pro so don't put any stock in it being more than just a fun hobby. Stay in school and trust me when I say your parents are 100% correct if they are pushing you to pursue a career path as a first priority!PERIOD! Just remember....the better the job you move into after your schooling the better the bikes you will afford later on.
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1/16/2014 8:11pm
Parents can't help being paranoid...even when they're screwing their kid out of pursuing a dream.

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