Undefeated Champ slow?

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 11:36am

Why is Villopoto and Dungey faster the Stewart when there on 250's and Bubba's on a 450? Are those 450's just to heavy and a bit of a handfull to ride?

Whats going on, someone must be able to explain?
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Wow!!!! Lurked for awhile, Huh!!!

Look outside!!! The short bus is there to take you back to Racetime...
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flynbrian 9/3/2008 6:45am
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I would say JS was being careful not to crash or tear up the bike any throw away the perfect season.
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Garyd 9/3/2008 6:50am
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kaw rider9 wrote:
Wow!!!! Lurked for awhile, Huh!!!

Look outside!!! The short bus is there to take you back to Racetime...
haha... I wondered who that bus was waiting for!
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Garyd 9/3/2008 6:54am
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flynbrian wrote:
I would say JS was being careful not to crash or tear up the bike any throw away the perfect season.
I am sure Bubba was going as slow as he could, which he finds difficult. But it does seem strange that there was only around two 450's in the fastest laps top ten at the last round.

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Garyd wrote:
Why is Villopoto and Dungey faster the Stewart when there on 250's and Bubba's on a 450? Are those 450's just to heavy and a bit...

Why is Villopoto and Dungey faster the Stewart when there on 250's and Bubba's on a 450? Are those 450's just to heavy and a bit of a handfull to ride?

Whats going on, someone must be able to explain?
If you take RC out of the equation there is no one to push Bubba to his potential.

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davis224 9/3/2008 8:21am
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1. The track is rougher for the 450 moto.
2. RV and Dungey are just really fast.
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Make 'em all race 250f's.
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It's been proven over and over that the 250's can run the same lap times as the 450's. It would make sense that a 450 would pull a faster lap time but it just isn't the case. You just ride a gear higher on the 250f and always keep it wide open. Just have to ride them a little different but lap time wise there really isn't much difference.
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Ozy 9/3/2008 9:41am
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Garyd wrote:
Why is Villopoto and Dungey faster the Stewart when there on 250's and Bubba's on a 450? Are those 450's just to heavy and a bit...

Why is Villopoto and Dungey faster the Stewart when there on 250's and Bubba's on a 450? Are those 450's just to heavy and a bit of a handfull to ride?

Whats going on, someone must be able to explain?
Does anybody remember when James was on 125 and people were comparing his times to RC's times saying James has faster lap times and RC better look out?

What happened when James moved up?
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Garyd wrote:
Why is Villopoto and Dungey faster the Stewart when there on 250's and Bubba's on a 450? Are those 450's just to heavy and a bit...

Why is Villopoto and Dungey faster the Stewart when there on 250's and Bubba's on a 450? Are those 450's just to heavy and a bit of a handfull to ride?

Whats going on, someone must be able to explain?
"Why is"...............Unsure


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he is slower because ur dumb and don't know or read anything about weather, track prep, track conditions before you post something...

remember when JS was "just as fast" on his kx125...in his case he was!!! but give him a big bike and watch the crashes pile up...will be the same for the two young guns...

expect big crashes next year from rv and 28 if he makes it up...but doesn't sound like it...
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GuyB 9/3/2008 10:40am
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I haven't done one in a while, but...

I think it's time to play, "Sacrifice a Noob To The Moto Gods."
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May start a new "old" trend if you're not careful.
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GuyB 9/3/2008 10:43am
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I'm okay with that. We're edging into the off-season, and I have an itchy trigger finger. Smile
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andymoto 9/3/2008 10:45am
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Thanks for flushing that other thread from a couple weeks ago.....
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GuyB 9/3/2008 10:45am
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Oh, and the correct answer is exactly what Alan said...no one to push him.

My guess is, James has a lot left in reserve. With luck, we may get to see just how much next year.
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Garyd wrote:
Why is Villopoto and Dungey faster the Stewart when there on 250's and Bubba's on a 450? Are those 450's just to heavy and a bit...

Why is Villopoto and Dungey faster the Stewart when there on 250's and Bubba's on a 450? Are those 450's just to heavy and a bit of a handfull to ride?

Whats going on, someone must be able to explain?
James said himself after the race that he was NERVOUS and just wanted to keep it on two wheels.
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BobbyM 9/3/2008 11:00am
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My guess is, James has a lot left in reserve.

that is an understatement

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sc961 9/3/2008 11:04am
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GuyB wrote:
I'm okay with that. We're edging into the off-season, and I have an itchy trigger finger. Smile
Scratch away!! Don't feel like you have to stay in the moto section only.. Dizzy
sbarrington314 9/3/2008 11:14am
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there 250s have more horse power than most of the fields 450s.
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GuyB 9/3/2008 11:17am
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sc961 wrote:
Scratch away!! Don't feel like you have to stay in the moto section only.. Dizzy
Don't worry, I've been randomly deleting stuff in non-moto. A few Obama threads, a few McCain's...I'm an equal opportunity deleter.
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flarider 9/3/2008 11:20am
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GuyB wrote:
I haven't done one in a while, but...

I think it's time to play, "Sacrifice a Noob To The Moto Gods."
HUH?

What noob?
Where?
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This thread smells of bull shit.
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sbarrington314 wrote:
there 250s have more horse power than most of the fields 450s.
Yea, right. Guess again.
rockcrawlerdude 9/3/2008 11:50am
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sbarrington314 wrote:
there 250s have more horse power than most of the fields 450s.
DOUBT THAT! the PC machines were touted as having 44 hp, thats 11 down from the bone stock 55hp of a honda 450.... not to mention the 450's have more torque...
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drmarkr 9/3/2008 12:37pm
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GuyB wrote:
I haven't done one in a while, but...

I think it's time to play, "Sacrifice a Noob To The Moto Gods."
*.....picking self up off floor.....*

Sorry....just a mild shock there....I'll get over it with some smelling salts.

;-)

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sbarrington314 9/3/2008 1:22pm
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sbarrington314 wrote:
there 250s have more horse power than most of the fields 450s.
rockcrawlerdude wrote:
DOUBT THAT! the PC machines were touted as having 44 hp, thats 11 down from the bone stock 55hp of a honda 450.... not to mention...
DOUBT THAT! the PC machines were touted as having 44 hp, thats 11 down from the bone stock 55hp of a honda 450.... not to mention the 450's have more torque...
doubt that. theres people that arent using "factory parts" that are making 45 in 250fs.
i tried google, but it left me dry. theres gotta be some more know it alls around here that can claim how much they are really making.
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sbarrington314 wrote:
there 250s have more horse power than most of the fields 450s.
rockcrawlerdude wrote:
DOUBT THAT! the PC machines were touted as having 44 hp, thats 11 down from the bone stock 55hp of a honda 450.... not to mention...
DOUBT THAT! the PC machines were touted as having 44 hp, thats 11 down from the bone stock 55hp of a honda 450.... not to mention the 450's have more torque...
sbarrington314 wrote:
doubt that. theres people that arent using "factory parts" that are making 45 in 250fs. i tried google, but it left me dry. theres gotta be...
doubt that. theres people that arent using "factory parts" that are making 45 in 250fs.
i tried google, but it left me dry. theres gotta be some more know it alls around here that can claim how much they are really making.
Yea PC could probably make a 250F motor that has 55 HP but it wouldnt last a lap before kabooom!
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sbarrington314 wrote:
there 250s have more horse power than most of the fields 450s.
rockcrawlerdude wrote:
DOUBT THAT! the PC machines were touted as having 44 hp, thats 11 down from the bone stock 55hp of a honda 450.... not to mention...
DOUBT THAT! the PC machines were touted as having 44 hp, thats 11 down from the bone stock 55hp of a honda 450.... not to mention the 450's have more torque...
sbarrington314 wrote:
doubt that. theres people that arent using "factory parts" that are making 45 in 250fs. i tried google, but it left me dry. theres gotta be...
doubt that. theres people that arent using "factory parts" that are making 45 in 250fs.
i tried google, but it left me dry. theres gotta be some more know it alls around here that can claim how much they are really making.
well according to TWMX the pc bikes were @44HP....
Bronson905 9/3/2008 3:41pm
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james has got it in cruise control and he has more speed when he needs it... rv and rd just go as fast as they can the whole timee.

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