2009 Numbers...

How did De Ruever get a number from 1 race?

He scored enough points from getting 3rd in the one moto to put himself inside the top 100 overall on the season.

10 couldn't have gone to a better guy.

I thought it was something like that. I wonder if Grant cares that his went up.

I was really hoping he would keep 28, that was my #, but he couldn't of picked a better second choice (in my eyes).

They should have retired 19.

They are still unofficial 2009 #.s
deReuver probaply rode on a FIM licence, so his points will not count towards a number.

And Wil Hahn will have the # right after his bro Tommy.
46 T. Hahn
47 W. Hahn
48 Davalos
49 Brayton
50 Kiniry

and no way JLaw would run 51.

24 J. Alessi so jeffy not running the 801 huh? very interesting... 1st step in getting out of the shadow.....

That is what everyone said last year when Jeff earned #46, and most people thought he was going to run that #. But Jeff stayed with 801, and I do not see Jeff changing in 09.


These are still unofficial 2009 #.s

It doesn't mean he is going to run that #... Same with JLaw

Exactly they aren't changing their numbers anytime soon.

S

would expect izzi to try and get 34

Thank you for the info.
I just seen Brayton earned 14 points in SX..

Damn I need to pay attention better. Sorry

Unless the AMA let's him back in, J-Law will not be racing any number. If they do let him back in, I am sure he will stay with #338 Outoddors! He will sport the #1 Indoors.

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I give up on trying to understand this numbering crap.

Can someone explain how Preston is 11 and Voss 13....and Weimer 18, Izzi 19 for that matter? I thought that top 20 numbers were reserved to riders who had previously won a championship and were still active....

X2

Amen....... Henry has given more for his sport than perhaps anyone else......

I also just read over at motonews Millsaps wants #18 for next season.

Paul737 from motonews came up with this list, and info.


Here’s the list that I came up with. HUGE disclaimer first though:

I say this every year: this list has gotten more and more difficult every year. It has practically become an art form. The permanent numbering system is confusing at best, and Jane at the AMA does her best to decipher it every year. So before you just jump on the "bash the AMA" band wagon, try doing the list yourself sometime and you’ll see what I mean. What may seem obvious to you, is far from it. "Rider such and such has a 3 digit and I know he will keep it....." Now try contacting all of those "obvious" riders in the off season (along with the 3 new permanent number guys), while vacations, honeymoons, overseas races, changing teams, etc. etc. are happening (remember, you can’t just assume that they want to keep it, and in most cases those 3 digits are NOT permanent I.E. Metcalfe, Hansen, Davalos, Morais). Now imagine that one or two riders (or their agents or team managers) just wont call you back and are holding up the entire list. Should everyone else wait until December to for them to make up their minds?!?! The best (and unfortunate) solution is to put them in where they earned, and if they keep their 3 digit, then that number stays open. I know it seems like a shitty deal for the poor privateer sitting at #100, but that is the best that the AMA can do, deal with it (or like I said, try it yourself some time).

Some comments on why the VitalMX list might be different than mine (and I’m not saying mine is right, I used to be able to get it within 1-2, now it could be off by as many as 3-4):

- DeRuver will not hold a two digit because he raced on an International license so he will be removed from the list.
- Neither of us are sure about numbers 10, 18 and 19. We can only assume that these will be thrown back into the mix. I hate to say it, but there is no rhyme or reason here. Jane will defer the decision to the series manager, and in the past (Whitelock) has made some questionable calls in my opinion. So who knows what will happen here, but we’re both assuming that they’re open for use.
- Metcalfe (I believe) will choose his favorite #24 to be his permanent, given the choice (which he earned this year)
- He has Hill taking #75 which obviously was his amateur number. It will be interesting to see if he takes that, or if it’s available, I’d say he would take #18 (but he might know something here that I don’t).
- He has Townley omitted from the list, and I actually think he might be right here as I THINK Townley earned a permanent last year (not positive though).


Other than that, our lists are pretty close (yet probably both still worng!!)

Enjoy,

Paul


10 Dungey
18 Hill
19 Weimer
20 Izzy
21 Cooper
24 Metcalfe
28 Summey
30 J. Alessi
31 Sipes
32 Hamblin
33 Grant
34 Georke
35 Carpenter
36 Cunningham
37 Balbi
38 Chisholm
39 Canard
40 Reardon
41 Lemoine
42 Moss
43 Tickle
44 McFarlane
45 Thomas
46 Stroupe
47 Albertson
48 T. Hahn
49 Brayton
50 W. Hahn
51 Davalos
52 Kiniry
53 Lawrence
54 Boni
55 Clark
56 Sorby
57 Marask
58 Nicoletti
59 Adams
61 B. Wharton
62 Collier
63 C. Blose
64 Gibson
65 Skinner
66 Boniface
67 Hansen
68 M. Blose
69 Willard
70 Hibbert
71 Townley
72 J. Sipes
73 B. Johnson
74 Gracyk
75 Jesseman
76 Rivas
77 Rookstool
78 S. Clarke
79 Laninovich
80 Siebler
81 Bright
82 Summers
83 Klatt
84 J. Carpenter
85 Borkenhagen
86 Browne
87 Larsen
88 Sewell
89 Bonds
90 K. Smith
91 Kevin Johnson
92 Morais
93 Charbonneau
94 Lamay
95 Morrison
96 T. Wharton
97 Tobin
98 Laansoo
99 J. Lewis
Ainsworth
Chartfield
Grantom
Bowers
Facciatti
Hewit
Champion
Medaglia
Martin
A. Miller
Haymes
Partridge

** Jase Lewis (if he is indeed #99) had to earn 12 points to get a two digit number!! That’s insane!! When I raced, 1-2 points would get it done.....glad I don’t race anymore

Isn't J-Law Eligible for number 5 or 6 outdoors because he won the sx lites title? Or is it only outdoor titles that count?

I hope J-Law runs 51. And Izzi's number is kinda of a shock to me.

And I hate new season because now you got to remember all new numbers with riders.

You earn a permanent number by winning a 125 MX title or winning a 250 SX or MX title. You can also earn a permanent number by finishing top ten in the overall points at the end of the year thats counting 125 mx 250 sx and 250 mx points.

#1 - #9 are reserved for past Champions
#10 - #19 I thought were reserved for riders who have finshed in the top 10 overall in points in the past.

So I think Weimer and Izzi will get #20 and #21. But I could be wrong, it would not be the first time today.

Remember the whole "marketing thing..... interesting how Neck-Car does it. YET every year they change the car up(sometimes weekly different paint schemes) why?

TO SELL MORE SHIT ! !

If the AMA - MX Sports .... whomever... should realize the permanent # system is bogus.

If a rider got a different # and you were a fan, I guarantee you'd pony up the $24 to get that riders shirt for that year. As it is now all I had to do was buy one Larocco, Stewart, Pastrami, etc.....

Does anyone else see the hiow the current system actually REDUCES merchandising?

Todd I agree totally 19 should be on a 10yr moratorium.

I think to much is made of numbers. Let the guys just pick a permanant number. Another reason the sport is hard to follow. Each year changing numbers makes it harder to market a rider. Keep the red background for the champs and do away with the whole numbering system. Seems to work for all other sports.

Permanent numbers are worthless. This is not nascar. Guys don't race for 30 years. Go back to the MOTOCROSS system of numbers. Your only as good as your last seasons results!

McFarland won't be using 44, he's headed back to Australia.