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It doesn't MATTER how much money the government gives the poor people...there will ALWAYS be poor people. How many lottery winners are BK? A ton of them...what if the government wrote every single person in the country a $1M check...the rich would get richer with it...and the majority of the poor people would be broke-and back on their knees in front of uncle same asking for money-within five years.
Our welfare system is the absolute essence of giving a man a fish...and the people come back every day asking for more fish (if I'm wearing my tin foil hat, I'd say that is intentional). It's a hand out...PERIOD...those that call it a "hand up" have their head buried so deep in the sand that they have to breath out their ankles.
Our welfare system needs to be completely revamped, reorganized, and reformed. As it sits...it will eventually drag our entire country under the water.
“You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer.”
― Winston Churchill
The solution to poverty isn't the government...it's the people...and the people will solve that problem when two things happen: 1) They realize that they are the solution and 2) they tell the government to get out of the way.
Rational.
Thoughtful.
Constructive.
Anyone got some pictures from a Hundred Years ago that have NOTHING TO DO with this argument; but, are some kinda twisted attempt of some-sort-of Pro-Labor/Anti-Corporation bullshit that makes no sense...at all?
Thought so.
THIS!
If you were to give the majority of Walmart/McDonald's workers one million dollars and a new suit they'd look like the same fuckin slobs and be flat ass broke within five years.
Some people get it and some don't. Sink or swim, dammit.
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Giving the poor people more money (for no effort on their part) only creates more poor people...more poor people will eventually drown our society.
What if our welfare system was all about training (with a few exceptions-permanently disabled)? Teach them how to interview for a job, how to write a resume, teach them "how" to look for a job, then expect them to look for a job "full time" until they find one, then they could even do specialty trainings (either while unemployed or even while they are "under" employed)...entrepreneurship classes, computer classes, GED's, fork lift operator, clerical, accounting, personal finance and on and on and on....it's a "no money" system (or you get money for a short period of time, so long as you are participating in the program...if you aren't participating-meaning trying to better yourself and/or actively trying to find a job-you don't get money).
Take the "something for nothing" aspect of our welfare system and replace it with "something for something"...remove the ability to live off the system for generations, and replace it with "you can live off the system for a short time, so long as you are trying to get off the system".
Folks that used that system...would actually get a "hand up"...because they'd come off welfare far better than when they went on it....rather than a "hand out" that leaves them WORSE OFF after being on welfare (because they are far more likely to stay on welfare).
This system is proven to work. The only debate about its effectiveness would be if our incompetent government would be able to manage it (I'm not optimistic about that...)
Basically, I'm 100% in favor of HELPING the poor (improving them) rather than HURTING the poor (giving them stuff for no effort).
I have a scenario for you.............IF ten cave men were sitting around the fire hungry and they decided to go kill their food. But 5 of the 10 said, nah, you guys go kill it and bring it back and then we will split it up.......................How long do you think those 5 lazy POS cavemen would be alive........or should I say, when was the first documented case of cannibalism.
You can poll me: as a 27 year veteran my poll says "I" cannot believe "you" actually believe 2 % of the garbage that comes out of your mouth. I have NEVER heard of an individual so un-in-touch with reality as yourself. Lunatic space cadet usually comes to mind when I read anything you type and wonder how on earth you are allowed around any time of motorized vehicle.
I have said it before and I will say again, there are trees on this earth, kicking themselves in the ass, cause they have to make oxygen for you to breath.
Don't worry about oldfart, IN MY OPINION he shows no respect to anyone that's actually sacrificed with hard work. It's best to do what I have and simply ignore him.
Remember all IMO.
Except for Oldie.
He can say whatever he wants & it's a fact.
He can imply whatever he thinks, dreams up, wishes or fantasizes as fact.
Now, we can believe that nearly a MILLION Vets are going to be out on the street due to reeling in a Food-Stamp program by a few % points.
Too much time on his hands...
Got it.
I can see how ya got there. She's REALLY GOOD at her job; which, is selling us all out for her bosses legacy.
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She doesn't have to Lie: she does what you all do...
Deny, deny, deny.
Jobs are scarce due to the actions of banks and the inaction of congress. The house has done nothing in the way of a jobs bill yet we rail against the unemployed for being unemployed. Oh, they are just lazy. Sure their are welchers out there but do you really think most people who are unemployed want to be that way. I don't. There should have been a jobs bill 4 years ago to get this country back to work and still nothing. No one is hardly talking about it. We allow the unemployed and poor to stay that way sucking up resources instead of giving them opportunities to become productive tax payers. We allow the richest corporations in the world to not pay a living wage so that their workers have to seek government help just to survive.
I guess it's easier just to be pissed at them.
This is one of the most accurate things I've ever seen posted on here. By far.
Here are some cliff notes from the article:
Only 2.6% of WORKING people are poor.
Less than 42% on welfare are actually working(the term working includes job search and job training). That means 58% are NOT working and NOT looking for a job.
Only 20% have unsubsidized private-sector jobs. Which leaves 22% who must be looking for a job or receiving job training. (So in reality, 80% AREN'T working.)
Welfare pays more than a starting wage for a secretary in 39 states, and pays more than the average PRE-TAX first year wage of a teacher in 11 states. Take out the teachers taxes, and welfare trumps a first year teacher's salary in 11 states!
In Nevada, welfare is equivalent to a $29,820 annual salary, or $14.34/hr. Almost $30K a year to sit around the house. A-friggin-mazing.
Mandate wage increases to make getting a job more appealing? That results in INCREASED unemployment for the lowest skilled workers.
Average annual wage and disposable income by country.
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