Reducing hand fatigue?

bvm111
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10/7/2013 10:06pm
death grip with your legs not your hands... problem solved!!!!
10/7/2013 10:55pm
bullpen658 wrote:
Death grip bro. Keep riding. Slow down the pace if necessary but try to increase your ability to stay on the bike. Once you can do...
Death grip bro. Keep riding. Slow down the pace if necessary but try to increase your ability to stay on the bike. Once you can do a 40 minute moto, THEN work on increasing your speed gradually.
Yeah, 40 minute moto's, why bother, I just do 6 minute Abbs!
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10/8/2013 12:08am
TripleFive wrote:
This isn't ground breaking by any means and has been referenced in a round-about way already in here. In my experience, armpump is primarily mental. If...
This isn't ground breaking by any means and has been referenced in a round-about way already in here. In my experience, armpump is primarily mental. If I was riding tight and uncomfortable I would instantly get armpump, but if I was flowing I could ride forever.

How do you combat this? That's the difficult question, but the first step is recognizing that this is potentially the issue.

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If you are going to try and exercise away the problem make sure you are doing things with a HIGHHHH number of reps. I have a rubber doughnut that I keep by the couch. When I'm watching TV I frequently pick it up and alternate sets of 50 until my forearms are about to explode.

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The ultimate solution is to simply ride your arms into shape. If you practice during the week try and ride each moto until your arms pump up; rinse and repeat. Each time your arms pump up you are stretching the fluid pathways that cause the problem to begin with.
I agree with the mental part in that a lot of it comes down to holding on with a death grip when you don't need to.
But I disagree with super high reps for weights. Do 12-15 reps when working your forearms with. That's enough.
With the hand grip and 1 LB stress ball, you'll end up doing sets of 100-150. It's just the nature of the exercise. So you'll end up doing both.
The strength training with weights is going to make your forearms stronger, so they won't have to work as hard to hold onto the bars. The stronger the better, and I don't think you'll get that with super light weights, and super high reps.

My understanding is that the pump happens when your body can't get the blood back to your heart fast as fast as it's entering your muscles. More in than out. Cardio will help with that.
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10/13/2013 11:54am
So thanks guys for all the help.

Finally rode yesterday, and was much, much better off.

I did well, the bike did well, and my numbness is getting better. I did, in search, find the "arm pump" work out; doing a few sets of 300 where I face the back of hands forward, point my fingers down, and then clinch my hands up. This helped as well.

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10/13/2013 12:06pm
I used to fill bars with silicone... This stuff works even better, all but eliminated vibration: Bar Buzz Kill
8/31/2017 10:10am
Socket946 wrote:
As the topic says, I am trying hard to do my part. I ordered a SDG step seat with the gripper material also; going to order...
As the topic says, I am trying hard to do my part.

I ordered a SDG step seat with the gripper material also; going to order some stomp grip tomorrow as well.

I focus on breathing, I eat two bananas before I ride, and take two advil, I stay hydrated before, during, and after riding.

I haven't broken any hand/wrist/should/arm bones, so that's not an issue.

I am 30 years old, and I can ride two laps hard, and my hands are IMMEDIATELY numb...another lap, and my arms are toast.

I am not over weight, but I am not doing weekly cardio. Bike has OEM honda bars, with renthal kevlar grips...

This is all after a 5 year break. I mentally know what it takes to ride faster, but getting my body to do it is another thing. The bike is well setup suspension and tires wise.
As we speak my forearm is in a bucket of water, I'm going to try to ride with my legs and stirring with my arms, until I get on the track and just rip! Being 30+ I know I need a 125, but of course my ego won't let me,, and that's most men
8/31/2017 10:46am
I'm in the same boat, had a break for a couple of years and now I can't ride for more than a few laps. It boils down to tensing up too much and holding on too much with the hands instead of your legs.
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8/31/2017 11:22am
Old af thread guys. Hands get tired because your deadlift is weak af.
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8/31/2017 11:28am
http://www.4arm-strong.com/

Look at Herlings, he started using it a few days before Ironman and he rode both motos grabbing the bars with a pinch grip.

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8/31/2017 3:05pm
Numbness in the hands and arm pump are not the same for me. I put a CR bend on my RMZ and my hands would go numb in a few laps. Switched to the windham high and no problem. Arm pump only occurs for me if I'm at a deep sand track.
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8/31/2017 3:43pm
Arm pump is the result of improper technique, and improper breathing. Bar bend, grips, gloves...none of that has any significant affect on it.

If its bar bend, or grips, or whatever...why don't you get arm pump casually riding? Because you are riding relaxed (technique), don't have a death grip on the bars (technique), and you are actually breathing.

If you ride correctly...grip the bike with your legs, supporting your upper body with your core muscles, and have relaxed-not just grip-but wrists, elbows, and shoulders, and if you actually breath correctly (long deep breaths-inhale and exhale) you won't get arm pump. (And that is SO much easier said than done.)

I can ride for hours and hours at half speed...never get arm pump, at all. But as soon as I start pushing my limits...my arms pump up in half a lap. Why? because when I start pushing my technique goes out the window, I tense up, and I stop breathing correctly.

The trick is you start well within your comfort zone, and get in the HABIT of breathing correctly, and using proper technique...then when it becomes habit, then you can gradually begin picking up the pace so that you get used to using proper technique and breathing while doing other things.
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8/31/2017 10:04pm
Your not masturbating enough bro
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8/31/2017 10:13pm
Mr. G wrote:
Instead of avoiding it train for it. I used to get arm pump when I was racing and then I joined a drum corp. Seriously. We...
Instead of avoiding it train for it. I used to get arm pump when I was racing and then I joined a drum corp. Seriously. We would play every day as hard as we could for an hour. We would buy the biggest sticks we could find and wrap two rolls of tape around each stick to make them last longer and just pound for an hour. I wasn't trying to handle arm pump, I was trying to handle drumming but I noticed that after a couple of months all arm pump and fatigue went away while riding. I am not saying that drumming is the best way as the drumming was irrelevant. It was hard long training with super high reps that did it. Weird I know. Ask Metcalf, he's a drummer.
This. So much black magic goes into arm pump, but it's really just a fitness thing. You have to find a way to stay on the track longer....Then once you do that raise the intensity during that time and then increase the time amount again .

I fought arm pump for years until I finally accepted that I had to suffer a little and build some forearm fitness. (I know there's a joke in there some where)
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8/31/2017 11:00pm
Grip with your toes, ankles and knees.
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9/1/2017 5:59am
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