Just a Little Track We Like to Call Monster Mountain

Edited Date/Time 10/10/2013 8:07am
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. Sorry guys, don't mean to spam - but I did this for another project and just had to share for those that have never seen "the Monster."

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Kryan5
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10/8/2013 7:16am
I will visit you some day.....
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10/8/2013 7:45am
Please have a national race there as soon as possible. Place looks amazing!
10/8/2013 7:46am
This is the best track around. For many years now.
10/8/2013 7:52am
hoping to take a trip down there soon.

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10/8/2013 8:14am
One of the best tracks in the country.....hell, why not, maybe the world. Great to do video at and ride!
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10/8/2013 8:14am
i have taken 1000's of laps on this track...on this mcm2 version...along time ago...
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10/8/2013 8:21am
Place is awesome, went there a few years ago and stayed there for a few days. Multiple tracks, main track, GP track, supercross, arenacross and kids track.
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10/8/2013 8:55am
You mean that's been there the whole time the boys have been racing at Lake Elsinore and Utah? Huh
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10/8/2013 9:14am
Where are the videos?
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10/8/2013 9:14am
Ramrod wrote:
Please have a national race there as soon as possible. Place looks amazing!
I've never been to this facility, so please forgive my ignorance. The track looks very impressive from the Google map view. I notice they have a few other tracks as well on the property. My question is do they have the additional facilities necessary to host a national? Do they have enough parking, quality area for pro pits, restrooms, etc.? I only ask because I don't know and that seems to have been one of the previously mentioned negatives about MM hosting a pro national. Looking at the satellite view, there doesn't seem to be much open area around the tack for parking and all the extras that go with a pro national. Location wise it's not too bad although Montgomery is a dump of a town, it does offer some decent food and hotels. Auburn is fairly close as well. Closest large airport is either Birmingham or Atlanta and both are a bit of a drive. I'd just like to hear some opinions on the extras that go into an event and if MM has them available.
10/8/2013 10:00am
I haven't visited in a few years but your track is one of my favorites of all time. Love the elevation changes, and the jumps are doable by people of all skill levels.

What's the latest with getting you guys on the national schedule? It would be a huge event, lots of folks coming from Atlanta and surrounding cities.
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10/8/2013 10:03am
What I would give to be able to ride a track like that. Just another track on the list that made it to my bucket list.
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10/8/2013 10:07am
With the sucess Muddy Creek had, I'd be very surprised if MM didn't get a national in the near future. Track looks amazing. Gets my vote to replace Elsinore or Southwick!
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10/8/2013 10:36am
Tom and his family do a hell of a job with MM, great track with alot of flow. There is alot of room there and nearby for parking if a national would be there. Hell I would just love to have a LL qualifier there! Espicially with some of the dumpy tracks they run at compared to MM.
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10/8/2013 11:22am
Track wise this place has to have been on the short list for a LONG time. The people associated with the track are all top notch. Greg Cole and Mark Barnett have both done lots of track work here I believe over the years. The management knows how to prep the track, how to run a race, and how to treat people.

Amenities are a down side. But, you can't expect a guy who's dropped his life so he can be involved in the sport he loves to mortgage his whole family's future in order to build facilities for a race that may never come there. If they had the commitment, I'm sure parking and the rest would work out fine. Heck, I've been to High Point. MM is way easier to get in and out of and the only thing they don't have that HP does is the media building.

Good job Tom. Keep up the good work man. The Monster Energy, Monster Mountain, Southeast National of 2015 sure does have a nice ring to it.
10/8/2013 11:24am Edited Date/Time 10/8/2013 11:28am
Ramrod wrote:
Please have a national race there as soon as possible. Place looks amazing!
ga_pike wrote:
I've never been to this facility, so please forgive my ignorance. The track looks very impressive from the Google map view. I notice they have a...
I've never been to this facility, so please forgive my ignorance. The track looks very impressive from the Google map view. I notice they have a few other tracks as well on the property. My question is do they have the additional facilities necessary to host a national? Do they have enough parking, quality area for pro pits, restrooms, etc.? I only ask because I don't know and that seems to have been one of the previously mentioned negatives about MM hosting a pro national. Looking at the satellite view, there doesn't seem to be much open area around the tack for parking and all the extras that go with a pro national. Location wise it's not too bad although Montgomery is a dump of a town, it does offer some decent food and hotels. Auburn is fairly close as well. Closest large airport is either Birmingham or Atlanta and both are a bit of a drive. I'd just like to hear some opinions on the extras that go into an event and if MM has them available.
Hi ga_pike,

I didn't intend to start a discussion about our track as a viable option for a national. I'm just a motocrosser at heart and know that people who've not seen it would enjoy seeing some pics of Monster Mountain. I've been prepping that track every weekend for three and a half years and seven days a week for 3 months every winter since 2010 and I never get tired of looking at it.

With regard to parking if you'll look to the east on Google Earth (or Bing, etc.) you will see hundreds of acres of flat, grassed parking that immediately adjoins to our property. I have started cutting a road through to the east property line to connect directly to those fields, all of which have long-standing, stable, cement culvert entrances from Burt Mill Road, which, like all the roads around Monster is very nice.

Montgomery has a very nice, newly remodeled Regional airport which is 45 minutes from the track and ATL and Birmingham are right at 2 hours. Montgomery has come a long way with tons of restaurants and about 7,700 hotel rooms. Our bathrooms and showers are some of the nicest in all of motocross.

That said, I think we are a ways away from being ready to host a national. We are constantly expanding our parking, improving the facility, and have plans to build a huge pad next to our staging area that would serve as pro pits - if we were ever to need them. We also built a 1/5th mile clay flat track - that doubles as over-flow parking for big events. But getting a national is not really our focus - not at the moment.

Our main goal is to engage in continuous improvement and keep focusing on making our riders and their families and other guests happy. When people leave our track we want them smiling, but sad to be leaving and planning their next trip. The pictures I posted are a series of random shots I took from the bulldozer while prepping for regular weekend practices - they're not the product of a photo shoot. Our main track looks like that pretty much every weekend and most days in the winter - weather permitting.

Our priorities are (in this order): making our riders happy, bringing back AMA-sanctioned racing (motocross, hare scrambles and flat track), developing major signature events (like our Top Kid Showcase and Monster Vet Challenge), and improving the facility.

If the situation presented itself, we would embrace the opportunity to host an outdoor national - but again we'd have a lot to do to get ready, and it's not really our focus. Makin' riders' grin at us with a thumbs up when they come off the track is what we're about.

All the other stuff will work itself out eventually as long as we keep our priorities straight.

Gotta go adjust the clutch in the water truck and fix a fuel leak on the bulldozer.....peace out.

Tom

P.S., if you think the satellite images make the track look impressive, you should endeavor to come see it for yourself if the opportunity presents - the pictures, videos, and Google Earth images just don't do it justice. Smile
10/8/2013 11:34am Edited Date/Time 10/8/2013 11:42am
Mouse153 wrote:
Where are the videos?
Where are the videos?


Monster Mountain has a Youtube Channel with some video on it. Matt Wozney's "Tale of the Two Stroke" is one of the best MM videos I've seen.
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10/8/2013 2:52pm
dsmith wrote:
i have taken 1000's of laps on this track...on this mcm2 version...along time ago... [img]https://twisteddirt.com/html-dl/MM.jpg[/img]
i have taken 1000's of laps on this track...on this mcm2 version...along time ago...
This was such a great track on MCM2!
10/8/2013 3:45pm
looks jst like desert martin in ireland on day 1. perfect
10/8/2013 3:56pm
But instead we have this:





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10/8/2013 5:50pm
Hi ga_pike, I didn't intend to start a discussion about our track as a viable option for a national. I'm just a motocrosser at heart and...
Hi ga_pike,

I didn't intend to start a discussion about our track as a viable option for a national. I'm just a motocrosser at heart and know that people who've not seen it would enjoy seeing some pics of Monster Mountain. I've been prepping that track every weekend for three and a half years and seven days a week for 3 months every winter since 2010 and I never get tired of looking at it.

With regard to parking if you'll look to the east on Google Earth (or Bing, etc.) you will see hundreds of acres of flat, grassed parking that immediately adjoins to our property. I have started cutting a road through to the east property line to connect directly to those fields, all of which have long-standing, stable, cement culvert entrances from Burt Mill Road, which, like all the roads around Monster is very nice.

Montgomery has a very nice, newly remodeled Regional airport which is 45 minutes from the track and ATL and Birmingham are right at 2 hours. Montgomery has come a long way with tons of restaurants and about 7,700 hotel rooms. Our bathrooms and showers are some of the nicest in all of motocross.

That said, I think we are a ways away from being ready to host a national. We are constantly expanding our parking, improving the facility, and have plans to build a huge pad next to our staging area that would serve as pro pits - if we were ever to need them. We also built a 1/5th mile clay flat track - that doubles as over-flow parking for big events. But getting a national is not really our focus - not at the moment.

Our main goal is to engage in continuous improvement and keep focusing on making our riders and their families and other guests happy. When people leave our track we want them smiling, but sad to be leaving and planning their next trip. The pictures I posted are a series of random shots I took from the bulldozer while prepping for regular weekend practices - they're not the product of a photo shoot. Our main track looks like that pretty much every weekend and most days in the winter - weather permitting.

Our priorities are (in this order): making our riders happy, bringing back AMA-sanctioned racing (motocross, hare scrambles and flat track), developing major signature events (like our Top Kid Showcase and Monster Vet Challenge), and improving the facility.

If the situation presented itself, we would embrace the opportunity to host an outdoor national - but again we'd have a lot to do to get ready, and it's not really our focus. Makin' riders' grin at us with a thumbs up when they come off the track is what we're about.

All the other stuff will work itself out eventually as long as we keep our priorities straight.

Gotta go adjust the clutch in the water truck and fix a fuel leak on the bulldozer.....peace out.

Tom

P.S., if you think the satellite images make the track look impressive, you should endeavor to come see it for yourself if the opportunity presents - the pictures, videos, and Google Earth images just don't do it justice. Smile
Thanks for the reply. I wasn't sure if the land to the east was y'alls or not. Based on everything I've heard about the facility,, it seems IMO you should be in line to host a national, if you decided that's what you wanted. Personally, I'd like to see it happen because you are in decent driving distance for me. Good luck with whatever direction you continue to go.
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10/8/2013 6:11pm
Cant wait to ride there summer 14!
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10/8/2013 6:53pm
Tom, the track looks great! Do you have RV & Camper sites with hookups? I'm thinking the boy and I need to take a guys vacation in the summer!
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10/8/2013 7:04pm
Mouse153 wrote:
Tom, the track looks great! Do you have RV & Camper sites with hookups? I'm thinking the boy and I need to take a guys vacation...
Tom, the track looks great! Do you have RV & Camper sites with hookups? I'm thinking the boy and I need to take a guys vacation in the summer!
Yes they do.
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10/8/2013 7:13pm
Looking at the website for the track, looks like a very nice, well groomed track. And rates are easy on the wallet! Great program you got there sir.
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10/8/2013 7:40pm
Jroc wrote:
Place is awesome, went there a few years ago and stayed there for a few days. Multiple tracks, main track, GP track, supercross, arenacross and kids...
Place is awesome, went there a few years ago and stayed there for a few days. Multiple tracks, main track, GP track, supercross, arenacross and kids track.
Supercross and Arenacross tracks are gone. Replaced when new owners took over with a flat track.

This is a national "caliber" track but there is almost no way to hold a national here. NO where to park. Been going to Monster since 2004 and the track is very fun but without massive excavating to clear 30 or 40 acres of trees, no way to park 100 vehicles, let alone a few thousand.
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10/9/2013 3:55am
Jroc wrote:
Place is awesome, went there a few years ago and stayed there for a few days. Multiple tracks, main track, GP track, supercross, arenacross and kids...
Place is awesome, went there a few years ago and stayed there for a few days. Multiple tracks, main track, GP track, supercross, arenacross and kids track.
MotoX85 wrote:
Supercross and Arenacross tracks are gone. Replaced when new owners took over with a flat track. This is a national "caliber" track but there is almost...
Supercross and Arenacross tracks are gone. Replaced when new owners took over with a flat track.

This is a national "caliber" track but there is almost no way to hold a national here. NO where to park. Been going to Monster since 2004 and the track is very fun but without massive excavating to clear 30 or 40 acres of trees, no way to park 100 vehicles, let alone a few thousand.
There are hundreds of acres of cleared land adjoining to the property like TOm said in his previous post. Plenty of parking if needed.
10/9/2013 4:25am Edited Date/Time 10/10/2013 4:33am
Jroc wrote:
Place is awesome, went there a few years ago and stayed there for a few days. Multiple tracks, main track, GP track, supercross, arenacross and kids...
Place is awesome, went there a few years ago and stayed there for a few days. Multiple tracks, main track, GP track, supercross, arenacross and kids track.
MotoX85 wrote:
Supercross and Arenacross tracks are gone. Replaced when new owners took over with a flat track. This is a national "caliber" track but there is almost...
Supercross and Arenacross tracks are gone. Replaced when new owners took over with a flat track.

This is a national "caliber" track but there is almost no way to hold a national here. NO where to park. Been going to Monster since 2004 and the track is very fun but without massive excavating to clear 30 or 40 acres of trees, no way to park 100 vehicles, let alone a few thousand.
MotoX85 - and all others who believe parking is an issue that would negatively impact a national at Monster Mountain, your perspective lacks in-depth knowledge of the opportunities available to address parking needs.

I see that you are from Centralia, Illinois and have been going to Monster since 2004. We appreciate your business and are glad you enjoy yourself enough to keep coming back.

But you, and the many others who've commented on the parking issue are just wrong. As aforementioned, jump on Google Earth and look to the right (east). With the access we have to adjoining properties, the 40+ acres we've started clearing, and the replacement of the supercross track with the flat track and it's associated parking lot, we frankly have more, and better parking than several of the existing nationals.

There are other issues that would need to be addressed for us to hold a national, but PARKING IS NOT A MAJOR ISSUE. For us to hold a national, construction of pro pits, enhancing the roads inside the park, fencing, installing high-bandwidth, high-availability, high-speed internet capability are some of the issues that would need addressing. Having more and better parking than some of the current nationals is a "can-do-easy" item on the to-do list.

Motox85, thanks again for your business, and thanks for your input in this issue. You are not alone in the perspective that we lack parking for big events. But you, and others who believe that to be the case, simply have not researched the subject thoroughly and are operating from a woe-fully uninformed position. Next time you're at Monster, come see me and I'll be glad to show you the plan.

As I stated in my other post, we have a long list of things we want to do - with the first priority making our current and future customers happy while methodically improving the facility. Growing our AMA racing program and developing our own signature events are our other major priorities. Motox85 - making sure you have a great time when you come to Monster is always first-and-foremost on our minds - but trust me. But while you are going about your daily life the other 363 days of the year when you are not at Monster, we are constantly thinking about parking, traffic plans, and a myriad of other concerns that will prepare us for bigger and better things down the road.

Getting a national is not a priority for us at this time. As we continue doing what we''re doing, we're slowly and methodically building infrastructure and capabilities that will make us a strong candidate for an outdoor national and other major events down the road. We're not all that far from where we'd need to be - but we're not rushing it. We'd love to hold an outdoor national if the opportunity presented itself, but frankly, we have other priorities - the most important of which is you - the rider.

Warmest of Regards,

Tom (aka, the guy with plenty of parking)
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10/9/2013 5:32am
I personally queried Coombs on this place at a National in 2012, and his answer was "parking & bathrooms".
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10/9/2013 5:37am
Coombs did not say "parking and bathrooms" but more likely parking and "room" for the infrastructure of the series, which means all of those big rigs, TV semis, sponsor support, etc. It is an amazing track and Tom does a great job. As it grows we will keep an eye on it, the first SE race was really well received.

DC
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