Best Pro to never win LL?

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Title says it all. Who was the most successful professional to never claim a title at LL?
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lostboy819 7/31/2013 2:36pm
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Rodger DeCoster or Bob Hannah
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Motodave15 7/31/2013 2:38pm
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Damn, I'm stumped.

Are you talking across all classes?

or

somebody who never won, on Big bikes only? as in 125/250f A/B 250/450 A/B ETC
xnationalwrench 7/31/2013 2:39pm
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Tony Destefano (sp), Brad Lackey & of course Bobby M.
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Doug Henry

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JayCarpent 7/31/2013 2:59pm
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A little more specific on the question would be great, we talking 125/250 250/450 pro classes? Or are we talking every class from all age groups?

If you are talking PRO then I would have to say Ryan Dungey, I think he only has one win at Loretta's and I think it was the 12-15 125 class.

If you are talking all classes, age groups then I would have to choose Doug Henry, by far.
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bturner26x 7/31/2013 3:06pm
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I would say Dunge too.
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bturner26x wrote:
I would say Dunge too.
Dungey won a title.
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vanillaice782 7/31/2013 3:24pm
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I found it! Jean Michel Bayle. His championships are modern enough to have raced Loretta's as a kid and won championships without doing so. What do I win?
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vanillaice782 wrote:
I found it! Jean Michel Bayle. His championships are modern enough to have raced Loretta's as a kid and won championships without doing so. What do...
I found it! Jean Michel Bayle. His championships are modern enough to have raced Loretta's as a kid and won championships without doing so. What do I win?
You win a date with 500Guy and a bearing for an 85 CR250.

Congratulations.
vanillaice782 7/31/2013 3:41pm
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vanillaice782 wrote:
I found it! Jean Michel Bayle. His championships are modern enough to have raced Loretta's as a kid and won championships without doing so. What do...
I found it! Jean Michel Bayle. His championships are modern enough to have raced Loretta's as a kid and won championships without doing so. What do I win?
jtomasik wrote:
You win a date with 500Guy and a bearing for an 85 CR250.

Congratulations.
That's great, I can save time by meeting him for dinner at any bearing shop in the tri state area because there aint no bearing shop that doesn't carry bearings for an 85 Honda.
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cole seely at the moment
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motorush 7/31/2013 3:59pm
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. I would say MC, King of SX, in the beginner class.
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mws02 wrote:
Title says it all. Who was the most successful professional to never claim a title at LL?
Bobby fucking M.
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motorush wrote:
. I would say MC, King of SX, in the beginner class.
HE won a title in 125 C
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BobbyM wrote:
Bobby fucking M.
Blows cock!
vanillaice782 7/31/2013 4:59pm
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mws02 wrote:
Title says it all. Who was the most successful professional to never claim a title at LL?
BobbyM wrote:
Bobby fucking M.
Who the fuck is BobbyM?
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Brad smith out of Michigan. Rode back LL back in 2006 I believe for pr2/cole gress. Got a few top 4s, turned pro and first race at Millville he holeshotted Carmichael and stew. He was on a 250 2t with worked suspension and couldn't do anything so he had to pull off. Injuries set him back. At one point he was beating j law down south, then broken ankle.

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GrapeApe 7/31/2013 5:06pm
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^^^ nailed it ^^^. Brad Smith is the best pro to never win at LL, not Doug Henry.
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Pullmyfinger 7/31/2013 5:18pm
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Just an honorable mention haha
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Chad reed 22
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^^^winner!
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haydos25 7/31/2013 5:44pm
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Are we just talking US born riders of the LL era. Because you have to think that given the opportunity Reed and the other internationals would have won one at some point.

Its amazing that most of the real superstars have had success at LL's at some point, just proves how good of a farm system it is. Takes alot of mental strength to pull through when 12 months worth of preparation comes down to 3 races. Good training for the pro pressure cooker in most cases.
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Pullmyfinger wrote:
Brad smith out of Michigan. Rode back LL back in 2006 I believe for pr2/cole gress. Got a few top 4s, turned pro and first race...
Brad smith out of Michigan. Rode back LL back in 2006 I believe for pr2/cole gress. Got a few top 4s, turned pro and first race at Millville he holeshotted Carmichael and stew. He was on a 250 2t with worked suspension and couldn't do anything so he had to pull off. Injuries set him back. At one point he was beating j law down south, then broken ankle.

Michigan mafia!
Hi Garrett!
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nwrider82 7/31/2013 6:14pm
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Jake Weimer, Malcolm Stewart, Justin Brayton, Jeremy Martin, and Cole Seely would be my top 5, excluding foreign riders of course.

Also RV only won 1 LL title.
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ga_pike 7/31/2013 6:32pm
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Ricky Johnson or Jeff Ward?
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haydos25 wrote:
Are we just talking US born riders of the LL era. Because you have to think that given the opportunity Reed and the other internationals would...
Are we just talking US born riders of the LL era. Because you have to think that given the opportunity Reed and the other internationals would have won one at some point.

Its amazing that most of the real superstars have had success at LL's at some point, just proves how good of a farm system it is. Takes alot of mental strength to pull through when 12 months worth of preparation comes down to 3 races. Good training for the pro pressure cooker in most cases.
LL's is a 3 Moto format.
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Kmid514 7/31/2013 6:41pm
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Not sure if Andrew Short ever even raced there.

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