AMA National MX Back in TX next year

Mr. Info
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7/10/2013 5:23pm
DC and Guy don't like the negitive ones making people look bad. Censorship. Shocked
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7/10/2013 5:36pm
Could you imagine the turnout at 3 Palms being so close to Houston? It would be gigantic!!!
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7/10/2013 5:52pm
hey DC here is a good question about nationals... when you gonna throw on that helmet cam and show the track again like back in 99-01-ish? I watched an old recording the other day and totally forgot you used to do that haha
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7/10/2013 8:05pm Edited Date/Time 7/10/2013 8:07pm
Could you imagine the turnout at 3 Palms being so close to Houston? It would be gigantic!!!
3 Palms would pull a huge crowd, but they would need a 10k seat bleacher for anybody to see anything.

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7/10/2013 9:36pm
Wow. Blink Blink Blink

My post got disappeared. All I said was that I would slap Trey upside of the head and make him delegate shit if a Nat came to Swan.
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Wow. :blink: :blink: :blink: My post got disappeared. All I said was that I would slap Trey upside of the head and make him delegate shit...
Wow. Blink Blink Blink

My post got disappeared. All I said was that I would slap Trey upside of the head and make him delegate shit if a Nat came to Swan.
My guess is that we probably quoted someone whose account got deleted.....should I have just quoted you???Laughing
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7/11/2013 6:06am
I would love to see the national come to Swan, but wouldn't complain at all if it came back to another facility in Texas! I just want a national back within a 4-5 hour drive.
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7/11/2013 6:19am
Freestone had a great facility and really cool track layout. However from a fans point of view. Couldn't see shit. They need some massive bleachers or something. Watching a race for 3 turns at a time is just not fun. Went to thundervalley one year. Now that was cool. Could see 70% of the track at all times and actually watch the racing. To bad lake whitney doesn't exist anymore. Would have been awesome to see a national there. As for threepalms. Great track/place but HOLY FUCKING TRAFFIC JAM BATMAN! hahaha
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7/11/2013 7:15am
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Newmann.... Swan would be cool..! I first thought that the pit area would not be big enough for the Pro Pits. So I used my CAD- GIS programs to outline the Pits as they are now. Freestone has just over 11 acre Pro Pits. Took the FS Pit outline and dropped it over Swans pit area. Wow real close, I was surprised. So I did a boundary for a Swan Pro Pit area and came up with just over 13 acres without including the RV parking area. There would have to be some grading and adjustments made but the space is there.

The big issue would be spectator parking (as shown in one of the photos) cars parking across the street, don't know if that is possible with the owners etc. There is quite a bit of room on the North end of the property, but again there would need to be a lot of tree removal and grading to park vehicles there.

I like Freestone and working with Tony at the National, maybe it will return. Only time will tell....


On a side note.... Zach went to Underground the other week and heard the owners were wanting to try to get some big race there! I could see a Regional there. Zach said if they got a National there the owner would build a levee / dike / berm etc., around the outside of the track to place bleachers on top of. The kids think this track is the BOMB!


Images are based on NAD83, Texas State Planes, North Central Zone, US Foot projection. North being the top of the image.


Freestone Pro Pit Outline.





Swan Pro Pit Outline.



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7/11/2013 8:13am
Yeah, I was pretty bummed upon moving to TX and then finding out we no longer had the Nats here. Here's to hoping we get one back sooner than later!
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7/11/2013 7:19pm Edited Date/Time 7/11/2013 7:21pm
Arkmx wrote:
. Newmann.... Swan would be cool..! I first thought that the pit area would not be big enough for the Pro Pits. So I used my...
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Newmann.... Swan would be cool..! I first thought that the pit area would not be big enough for the Pro Pits. So I used my CAD- GIS programs to outline the Pits as they are now. Freestone has just over 11 acre Pro Pits. Took the FS Pit outline and dropped it over Swans pit area. Wow real close, I was surprised. So I did a boundary for a Swan Pro Pit area and came up with just over 13 acres without including the RV parking area. There would have to be some grading and adjustments made but the space is there.

The big issue would be spectator parking (as shown in one of the photos) cars parking across the street, don't know if that is possible with the owners etc. There is quite a bit of room on the North end of the property, but again there would need to be a lot of tree removal and grading to park vehicles there.

I like Freestone and working with Tony at the National, maybe it will return. Only time will tell....


On a side note.... Zach went to Underground the other week and heard the owners were wanting to try to get some big race there! I could see a Regional there. Zach said if they got a National there the owner would build a levee / dike / berm etc., around the outside of the track to place bleachers on top of. The kids think this track is the BOMB!


Images are based on NAD83, Texas State Planes, North Central Zone, US Foot projection. North being the top of the image.


Freestone Pro Pit Outline.





Swan Pro Pit Outline.



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At last check, Trey's neighbors were cool to parking cars there (for a cut).

Keep in mind Trey has it set up now so that you can completely circumnavigate the entire track in an RV.

He could easily handle the spectator turnout levels we saw at Freestone. And the fans can see pretty much the whole track from the bleacher area and the infield is accessible, as well.

We get a national out there and I promise you we'll get the operations side nailed down tight.
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7/11/2013 8:29pm
Mr. Info wrote:
DC and Guy don't like the negitive ones making people look bad. Censorship. Shocked
Do you ever give it a rest!
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7/11/2013 10:31pm
Thelen20 wrote:
3 palms mx in conroe tx is telling people to get ready for some changes around there in preparation for the AMA national race next year...
3 palms mx in conroe tx is telling people to get ready for some changes around there in preparation for the AMA national race next year. Is this the southwick replacement?

Anybody care to confirm or deny???
I thought 3 Palms was [being] sold to a gas company, and was going to be closing down soon?
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7/12/2013 7:29am
As an AMA promoter that holds local races at 3 Palms, I can tell you that 3 Palms is not telling people that they are getting an AMA pro national. They did not start that rumor and have not been speeding that rumor.

There are some big plans in place for some big purse races with lots of contingencies for amateurs coming soon though....


We will keep you posted.
7/12/2013 10:50pm Edited Date/Time 7/12/2013 11:08pm
As far as the old Brooksville track in Florida goes, here is the way I recall it.

The front pit at Croom hosted a Winter -Am or Winter Warm up round in 78, I believe. It was the only "event" I recall being held inside the state forest riding area. Rough does not begin to describe the conditions.

Then, you had the old Croom MX track at the Southwest corner of the park, which was just outside of the state forest property. They too hosted Winter Am races there along with outlaw and then District 8 AMA sanctioned events. Randy took over around 1982, and these were the twilight years for the track. This is just across the road from the Keylons place. The last race I attended there was in 1986. Rough, but nothing compared to the "front pit".

And finally, just a few hundred yards north of the old track across from Keylons, Randy built an awesome track, around mid 2000, that utilized the walls of the surrounding pit for some elevation change not common on most Florida tracks. This was supposed to be opened for racing, but never did open up for more than private practice sessions. Permits, neighbors , etc. ?

Chicken Farm was in Homasassa Springs ,Florida about 30-35 miles west of Croom. They were done racing there by 1984, as was Orlando Sports Stadium and St. Petersburg.
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7/12/2013 11:53pm
newmann wrote:
Wow, what happened in this thread? Lot's of disappearing things today.
Thats funny, because I just opened this thread and I'm all like WTF is going on in here?..........and I just listened to the podcast where Baron Davis says he was abducted by aliens........so I'm like uhhh........
7/13/2013 6:06am
Muddy creek was the best national I ever been to! I don't have much to compare it to because I've only been to steel city, high point and muddy creek but Ill definitely be back next summer.

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