How many of you are aggressive riders?

I don't race anymore, but when I did.
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being Mother Theresa (no no, you go ahead, I'll just wait my turn), and 10 being a psychotic Bob Hannah (I'm gonna KILL you, you piece of crap). I'd have probably been about a 7 or so.

I'm generally pretty patient but if I get a bad start, I'll start taking a few more chances. I've bumped a few people and been bumped a few times. Now when mountain biking with one friend in particular, sometimes we'll start playing bumper bikes and eventually one of us will eat it.

I'm not making any money off this so yeah to answer your question not really. I rather punish you with an aggressive pounding of roost as I blow by you railing the outside.

On Just James' scale...I'm probably a 5...enough Bob Hannah to make passes when I need too...but enough Mother Theresa that I'm not making enemies out there and the guys I race with still like me.

I always ride on the clean side of things until I get provoked. Then I have no problems riding dirty at all. Yelling at people on the track isn't dirty in my opinion. Especially with lappers!

Not me. Besides, at my age I'm usually too tired now to be aggressive!


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-5, Barely got the bike started then fell over.

I must be.

A few guys have come up to me and wanted to kick my ass after the race.

One time I put an aggressive move on a guy and he and his 3 friends followed me in their truck leaving the race and tried to run me off the road.

Now that was aggressive!

When I used to race I tried to ride as clean as possible, maybe a 5 on the just James scale. Now I only ride practice sessions just for fun, will only make a pass in a safe clean manner and try to be respectful of other riders as most of us have to be at work on Moday. However, I show no mercy to ass clowns that ride overly agressive on practice days. Ask the jackass who got got his nose busted in the pits at Pala a few weeks ago for punting me on the vet track!

I'm not and never was, but if someone does it to me, i'll get em back...

Bur really, it's pretty stupid unless you're going for a national title...

There is always some dickhead and a club practice day who will take you wide or cut your line, I just think, I'm slow, you're slow plus 1klm per hour, why be a dickhead?

Thats funny, that reminds me of a time I had right after a race. A dude came a yellon at me said I took him out. Thing is I don't remember it because I did it so much, then he came at me so I kicked him in the chest to back'em off. He then came back with his dad so I had to tell'em get used to it in the "A" class or get faster. His Dad later came back and apologized for his son's actions. I said glad to help.

I see people get crazy at OP and that's just dumb.

But when the gate really drops, no one is my friend, I wanna win.

i was never a dirty rider to anyone, but when i turned pro it was hard not to give it back to them.

i got into an altercation with this one rider every single time we got on the track together. he would clean me out the first moto, i would return the favor the next. this went on for a year and completely killed either of our chances to have good finishes. well, we had a local arenacross race in a horse arena with a 4' high jumpwall with another 4' railing above it to the stands. first moto i had a bad start and coming through the pack caught up to him, i played nice, snuck around the inside and passed him clean. the next corner he torpedoed my front end and cleaned us both out.

the next moto came around and i jumped out to the lead while he fell in a corner, well the inevitable happened and i got onto his rear tire. a lap went by while i was trying to figure out if i pass or slam... well, he started brake checking me and i lost my cool. in a big banked corner on the corner of the stadium, i used his left side as a berm and literally punted him and his bike over the railing into the stands. i won the race but was DQ'd for dirty riding. we never had another problem after that.

when i'm on the track with my friends i'll run them high in corners but never hit them or make contact

I just get aggressive when I am in line at IN-N-OUT after the races. That's my problem.

i always do my best to make clean passes , understand being aggressive when ur a pro , but remember seeing my friend in the c class block passing everyone and taking off people to win the c class , i told him after the race how stupid he looked , it was a bloody c race not a ama national , think i got through to him as he never did it again , i love racing , but also enjoy having loads of friends at it , and meeting up with them at the wk ends , not making enemies , cause at the end of the day i ant ever going to be a pro and the class i race in there is around two full pro s and a few semi pros , and me and my car and trailer lol and a 07 bike

I didn't start racing 'til I was old enough for the Vet class, by that time you should probably consider lightening up a bit. Having said that, your life wasn't worth what that gaudy $10 piece of plastic and faux marble was to me. I tried to race clean as long as no one fucked with me. However, if someone dropped the gloves, it was game on, BITCH.
Had a guy play chicken with me at a race in 96, I t-boned him tapped in 5th and I was on a CR500. He wasn't even trying to follow the track, completely trying to take me out. I never actually saw what happened to him, I caught his front wheel and just kept charging, and never looked back. A guy watching told me after the race that the other guy went cartwheeling ass over tea kettle 3 or 4 times and landed a ways from his bike. That one sticks in my mind because had I been centered up on his bike, that would have a lot nastier outcome. For both of us.
If it's just play riding with my buddies, I have no problem goin bar to bar with a guy, because I trust him. If something happens, I know it's an oopsy. Never seems to, though.

Guess I should clarify. I raced for fun, and I don't remember ever getting angry while racing. On the other hand, I think rubbing is racing, and I never shied away from contact. I never intentionally took anyone out. I could bang bars with someone for the whole moto, then laugh about it with them afterwards.

I an aggressive rider .....meaning I ride my bikes VERY aggressively which is why I feel more comfortable on my 2 stroke. I rode like that on 450's and ended up on the ground way too many times, kind of ironic isnt it? I could never gel with the mundane way a 450 needs to be ridden. Not a 2 vs 4 debate just my .02 on aggressive riding but I only park my buddies from time to time JUST to piss them off a little .....its so funny.

somewhat aggressive

It depends on your personal definition of what is agressive, but I'm not afraid of a little contact when passing spots are scarce or if I have to move through the pack quickly. I try to do it in places where speeds are low and in a way that if something happens and someone falls, the risk of getting hurt is low. I'll always keep my line in jump sections and I will slow down around down riders.

i feel like i'm Chad Reed when I'm out there attacking the track, then i watch video of myself and realize i'm just a goon...

I think I'm with peelout on the racing pro side of things. I was hardly ever aggressive racing intermediate. Not that I wouldn't put up a fight, but I wasn't exactly slamming guys. I'd say your aggression tends to change a little bit more when racing for money though. Try passing me on the outside then cutting to the inside rut and I'm not letting off. All clean racing went out the window for me if I ever got a bad start though. If I saw an opening and was catching the guy in front of me fast enough there was no waiting around to make a pass.

Not when i'm cruisin' the 450 because it doesn't matter if you loose some momentum on a 450, just twist the throttle and you're back at speed in no time. The 125 is another story, I ride like a fucking jerk when I'm in attack mode. Shutting people off, cross jumping and all that shit that you hate. It's fun as hell tho

im usually a 4. If you stuff me or ride dirty I will bump it up to a 10!

Me and my friends usually ride more aggressive around one another than other people. We are just comfortable with each others riding styles and capabilities. In the odd moments we do take each other out accidentally, usually in a corner, we get up laughing.

Only ever parked my best friend, that was once, and it was pretty low speed. He didn't think it was that funny

I would say that I RIDE the bike aggressive (trails, open practice, goat trails, basically non race track setting) and sometimes racing, but for some reason during races I tend to get in over my head and end up crashing hard, so I just try to keep it on two wheels now. I don't race as much anymore but I love open practice.

Being aggressive on a 125 is great for a variety of reasons, but somehow whenever I feel like nutting up to raise the bar, something happens and it just gets away from me too quickly and I end up in a lot of pain.

Whole thing just makes me respect the pros even more.

When I raced my first enduro, I signed up in the C class cause I had never done one before... big mistake! If you've ever ridden an enduro, you know that it's a series of different sections that are timed, and after each section you end up resetting your running position basically. So for about 6 hours I had to try and pass the same kooks on gnarly single track, yelling, revving the shit outta my bike, etc. over and over again trying to stay on time. I would say I didn't make a single friend that day.

I think aggression is more than about rubbing paint and taking people out...

It's also about how hard you charge...As that (and breaking) seems to be a big huge difference between fast riders and slow riders.

And you can aggressively attack the track and yet be clean with other riders (ala Dungey).

I've been getting bad starts lately at my Hare and Hound races...and that means I'm passing a lot of slower riders...and I think the only difference is how aggressively I charge each section compared to them.

Having said that...if you raced pro...or even intermediate...in regards to how aggressive you attack the track...you are VERY aggressive...

Am I up in the night?

I did a few dash-for-cash races at local supercrosses a few years ago. My strategy was always to clean the other guy out as soon as I could. One time in particular I got the whole stadium of people to boo me after I t-boned another rider.

I have had that issue in enduros all the time. I ride with my buddy who is a C Senior so, they make us ride with the C lines, minute 40 plus in D37. After the first special, the guys usually figure out that they should let the psycho A rider on the 125 by asap. If they don't it is on them. For moto, I have never seen a reason to park a guy for a shitty plaque. That being said, if you ride dirty towards me, I give it back plus some.