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The US riders have a long season, 17 races for the Supercross, 12 races for the outdoors, plus the Monster Cup. That's why I said earlier that I would love to see the Supercross season shortened by a couple races and add 2 USGP. I know that will never happen, because once again it's about the money.
As a fan, I love the outdoors more and would love to watch the best in the world race against each other more than once a year.
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I don't have to go over all the problems with the GP's again as everyone already knows them. Plus, it's pretty clear where the best competition is at and the AMA Nationals is the fastest series in the World. There is a reason all the foreign riders say it's their dream to come to America and race! Have you ever heard a rider from America say the opposite? You can beat around the bush all you want but the writing is on the wall.
How many titles do you think he would have if he was racing against RV, JS and RC his whole career? We will never know and unfortunately he will always have that asterisk over his titles........
I for one wish we had the GP Champs in the Nationals. It would be unreal to see all the best together for a whole series.
it serves no purpose for him to come over here and get waxed. Americans dominate the ama circuit and he'd be a top 4 runner but rv2 would blow his doors off.
under the right conditions- the gp riders can beat our best. But those wins aren't too common.
i'd love to see herlings run southwick though. i think he'd crush.
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i did get to see everts when he raced unadilla. Wasn't totally familiar with the blessing i was getting that day. (turned out to be his first and only ama national ever)
he went 3-5 and looked super smooth there. dilla is a euro style track though imo, it fit him well. off cambers and natural.
No way he beats RV and RD in an entire series.
Would it not be the same then if he came to the USA to race a 1 off event as you want him to? RV, RD etc all know the tracks and ride them all the time (over the years) and have a huge advantage? To me its your comment back at you.
I also don't remember ever saying he would win a entire series, I merely said he showed how fast he can actually ride a bike that's all.
Take a deep breath and read what I really typed in my 1st post, not what you wanted to read or thought I said but never.
Maybe in the minds of ignorant people...
Why won't he race a national
I bet AC could care less
Ask yourself a better question why did none of the American riders show up to the usgp at glen Helen when they had the chance to beat AC on their own home soil
Same as Everts. Each to their own guys have respect for him he can twist a throttle.
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Good discussion. But you will see AC222, he will be in the U.S racing in 2015 at Glen Helen for the MxDn
Only weak people intentionally try to insult others with comments like, "smart guy, idiot, dumbass, retard". But keep it up cause I find it amusing when others try to make themselves feel better by insulting others.
Doesn't matter when RC moved up or what year, you clearly didn't get the point.
Then all the riders would have to race together , wont happen ever but would be nice to see.
BTW did you know they have their respective nation championships in Europe and inviatioals too,they don't just do 17 GPs.
Put it this way, if he raced against the fastest riders in the world in a full series and won, does anyone think we would even be discussing this? It would put a end to all this talk and I bet AC would smile so hard his teeth would straighten out!
Just a joke!
People don't realize that he is actually one of my favorite riders and I wish more than anyone that he came to America so we could put a end to all those discussions. I still don't think he would beat RV but I guess we will never know!
I know what you're saying but there's a reason for that which has nothing to do with the respective speed of each series. Top professionals like Roczen start out as fans before they make a career from MX, and as fans there are two major differences between the European (and countries outside America) fans and the American fans themselves. Firstly, the vast majority of non American fans don't claim that the GP series is superior, only equal but different. Most American fans claim that their series is superior. Secondly and more importantly in reference to your above point; the European fans follow BOTH series closely. Using KR as an example - Kenny almost certainly grew up watching and looking up to guys like Everts and the other top GP riders of his childhood, but also the top AMA riders like Ricky and later probably Villopoto himself. We know the GPs, just like we know the Nationals. We know the riders, the tracks, who's on form, who's injured... we know the differences because we follow both series closely.
Did Villopoto grow up watching and respecting the GP riders as well as the AMA stars? Almost certainly not.
In fact I doubt he even knew who they were back then and (rather surprisingly to a lot of us) he certainly didn't last year when asked while visiting the Belgium GP. It's hard to deny that you as fans (and therefore some fans turned Pro riders), don't live in a bubble compared to your European counterparts. I'm not trying to have a dig, but what I've said is honest and I'm sure there are many Americans here that will agree. It's not just limited to the sport of MX either. American culture is apart of all our lives to some degree.
It's unsurprising to see kids like Kenny have a natural bias towards the glitz and glamour of American racing. The money is good, it has SX and for many it fulfills a fantasy they had growing up of riding in large stadiums and living some exotic lifestyle in sunny California. But again that has nothing to do with the reality and relative speed of each series. They're just very different (in fact Zach Osborne himself said you almost can't compare them given how different they are and I remember Jimmy Albertson saying the same) but both are packed with talent.
Sure you can shed your point of view, but until they race each other on a constant basis you may never know
Without facts, well like I said speculation
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