How To Watch Thunder Valley

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Just trying to help out...



The 2nd round of the Lucas Oil Pro Motocross Championship takes place this Saturday afternoon with the Rockwell Thunder Valley National from Lakewood, Colorado. All four motos will air live on television, as well as stream online...

Live Practice
New this year: The 2nd practice session will only be available online and viewable on our Live Extra page and Mobile App ( iOS / Android ). So come check in a few hours before the race to see how it goes down.

1st Motos
Time: 3PM - 5PM ET
TV Channel: NBC Sports Network

*Online (US only): The live stream of 1st Motos can be viewed via the Live Extra page and Mobile App ( iOS / Android ).

Please note: In order to watch a live stream of an NBC Sports Network broadcast you have to verify your cable provider. Live Extra is a service offered through participating cable, satellite and telco TV providers that allows you to watch Motocross coverage of live events on the NBCSports Network. Don't see your provider? Contact your provider by clicking here (http://stream.nbcsports.com/liveextra/cable-provider-survey.html ) to express your interest in receiving this service. Provide your email address and we will contact you once your provider has been added. We are actively working to add additional TV providers to this service.

For more information about verifying your cable, satellite and telco TV click here to visit our Live Stream FAQs.

2nd Motos
Time: 5PM - 7PM ET
TV Channel: Fuel TV
Online: The live stream of 2nd Motos can be viewed via the Live Extra page and Mobile App ( iOS / Android ), as well as www.allisports.com

2nd Motos (International)
TV Networks: ESPN Brasil, ESPN Central and Latin America and Caribbean, Extreme Sports Channel, Fox Sports Australia, Rogers Sportsnet in Canada, Sport 1 in Germany, SuperSport, Duke Marketing
The Nationals will be simulcast to 104 countries across the globe. Check the TV listings for your local station (listed above) for the time in your area.

Highlights Show
Time: Wednesday 11:30PM ET
TV: NBC Sports Network

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WhipMeister 5/24/2013 11:33pm
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Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate.

But I find leading language that says "You Must Verify Your Cable, Satellite, or Telco TV provider", that, in reality, actually means, "You can only watch this program if you have already purchased a pay TV service provided by people that pay us, too." to be, sadly, deceptive and usurious.

There's an honest buck. And then there's just a buck.

But, then again, it *is* NBC.
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ocscottie 5/24/2013 11:44pm
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Just to add in a little more confusion, practice actually streamed on the Alli site last weekend, not NBCS and no provider verification was needed Whistling

...If it was a mistake, i hope they make it again Cool (for those that do not have a login)
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MXerDW 5/24/2013 11:48pm
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NBCSN goes first this weekend so I bet we get NO practice video this weekend.
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Guys....forgive me for asking a dumb question.....but how many rounds ( the next 10 after this weekend ) are going to have the moto's live on TV? I can watch all 4 motos on my TV this weekend....but how many more are we going to get? I would love to watch them all live.....but if it's reordered and shown next day.....that's fine too , was just curious.

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RG95 5/25/2013 12:30am
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What about both moto 1 will be streamed online ONLY in the US? Is this rumor confirmed?
Thanks all.
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CamP 5/25/2013 1:22am
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How does this affect those of us that don't have cable or satellite TV?
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also is there likely to be a sneaky stream for the first motos?

and I still don't know if the pay tv clash will stop the aussies being able to log on to Alli to watch the second motos
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markit 5/25/2013 2:59am
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alli kicked a$$ last weekend. Hoping it goes smoothly again this weekend, i missed the practice last round but will be ready today. I'll give the link here a try G but I dont have any tvp, got away from tv a few year ago. Appr ya'll's work/time on this. Thank's!
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NBC live extra app sucks for Android...keeps freezing. Oh well
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RG95 wrote:
What about both moto 1 will be streamed online ONLY in the US? Is this rumor confirmed?
Thanks all.
This is a fact my friend not a rumor. We can't see the 4 motos Live outside of the US. It doesn't change anything for us cause It was the same the years before (only the first motos on allisports). The only difference is we have to check if we will be able to watch both first or second motos.
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tobz 5/25/2013 6:22am
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jemcee wrote:
also is there likely to be a sneaky stream for the first motos? and I still don't know if the pay tv clash will stop the...
also is there likely to be a sneaky stream for the first motos?

and I still don't know if the pay tv clash will stop the aussies being able to log on to Alli to watch the second motos
Don't know how this will work tomorrow morning. I'm just going to wing it, try and stream it from justin.tv, i don't think a us vpn will work since you have to sign in with an account for a cable provider.

All else fails, i'm going to someones house with fox sports at 6am to watch the damn race.
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GuyB 5/25/2013 6:23am
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WhipMeister wrote:
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate. But I find leading language that says...
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate.

But I find leading language that says "You Must Verify Your Cable, Satellite, or Telco TV provider", that, in reality, actually means, "You can only watch this program if you have already purchased a pay TV service provided by people that pay us, too." to be, sadly, deceptive and usurious.

There's an honest buck. And then there's just a buck.

But, then again, it *is* NBC.
On my iPad I can watch TV on an HBO Go app. I have to verify that I'm a subscriber to HBO. It's no different.
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kongols 5/25/2013 6:27am
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Practice is about to start, right?
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WhipMeister wrote:
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate. But I find leading language that says...
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate.

But I find leading language that says "You Must Verify Your Cable, Satellite, or Telco TV provider", that, in reality, actually means, "You can only watch this program if you have already purchased a pay TV service provided by people that pay us, too." to be, sadly, deceptive and usurious.

There's an honest buck. And then there's just a buck.

But, then again, it *is* NBC.
GuyB wrote:
On my iPad I can watch TV on an HBO Go app. I have to verify that I'm a subscriber to HBO. It's no different.
Gibby, I think the general complaint is that before, everyone got to watch live online for free, and it was cool. Now lots of people cannot watch it online at all because they aren't paying one of the selected providers. It's cool since it's still on TV, but the online viewing has definitely taken a step backwards, there is no denying that.
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TMV 5/25/2013 6:57am
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kongols wrote:
Practice is about to start, right?
Should start at 16:30 in France...
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KlootZak 5/25/2013 7:01am
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"How to watch Thunder Valley?" As an international user, not
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er0ck33 wrote:
NBC live extra app sucks for Android...keeps freezing. Oh well
Yup, just downloaded mine and have a total of 1 minute of successful run time. Sweet.

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WhipMeister 5/25/2013 7:48am
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WhipMeister wrote:
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate. But I find leading language that says...
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate.

But I find leading language that says "You Must Verify Your Cable, Satellite, or Telco TV provider", that, in reality, actually means, "You can only watch this program if you have already purchased a pay TV service provided by people that pay us, too." to be, sadly, deceptive and usurious.

There's an honest buck. And then there's just a buck.

But, then again, it *is* NBC.
GuyB wrote:
On my iPad I can watch TV on an HBO Go app. I have to verify that I'm a subscriber to HBO. It's no different.
I'm not referring to the paywall itself. You're right. That's common.

I find the veiled, deceptive language that makes no mention of *having to be in a specific club* before you can watch and causes people to crash headfirst into the brick wall to have a certain unpleasant odor. I have time warner cable. Guess what? I'm not in the club. Wouldn't know that ahead of time reading their statement.

Hell, I have a couple of different telco providers I can verify, too. Why not just come out and say it on the ad?
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JW381 5/25/2013 8:02am
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WhipMeister wrote:
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate. But I find leading language that says...
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate.

But I find leading language that says "You Must Verify Your Cable, Satellite, or Telco TV provider", that, in reality, actually means, "You can only watch this program if you have already purchased a pay TV service provided by people that pay us, too." to be, sadly, deceptive and usurious.

There's an honest buck. And then there's just a buck.

But, then again, it *is* NBC.
GuyB wrote:
On my iPad I can watch TV on an HBO Go app. I have to verify that I'm a subscriber to HBO. It's no different.
WhipMeister wrote:
I'm not referring to the paywall itself. You're right. That's common. I find the veiled, deceptive language that makes no mention of *having to be in...
I'm not referring to the paywall itself. You're right. That's common.

I find the veiled, deceptive language that makes no mention of *having to be in a specific club* before you can watch and causes people to crash headfirst into the brick wall to have a certain unpleasant odor. I have time warner cable. Guess what? I'm not in the club. Wouldn't know that ahead of time reading their statement.

Hell, I have a couple of different telco providers I can verify, too. Why not just come out and say it on the ad?
I guess I get what you're saying, but here's how I view your complaint. First I'll have to ask a few questions, if you don't mind.

You pay for Time Warner cable, and that's not in the group of providers that allow access to the NBCS Extra coverage? Do you pay for internet separately from cable? If yes, how much do you pay (it can be proportionally) and if no, how much do you pay for both?

I don't see any deception in the language, you just have to verify that you have a legitimate TV provider. This is just supplemental coverage to what you already pay for, not free online viewing. No media company that plans on making money is trying to increase how much they can pump out that generates no direct revenue. I work for a newspaper, and we're no different. To access our website beyond a certain number of times you either need to pay, or sign up for a subscription. I'm assuming you chose Time Warner cable to save money, which is fine and a smart choice, but I think it's a bit unfair to point fingers and say something is wrong or deceptive just because you're missing out on a certain option because you went with a money saving route.

This could all be wrong, too, of course.
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WhipMeister 5/25/2013 8:17am
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JW381 wrote:
I guess I get what you're saying, but here's how I view your complaint. First I'll have to ask a few questions, if you don't mind...
I guess I get what you're saying, but here's how I view your complaint. First I'll have to ask a few questions, if you don't mind.

You pay for Time Warner cable, and that's not in the group of providers that allow access to the NBCS Extra coverage? Do you pay for internet separately from cable? If yes, how much do you pay (it can be proportionally) and if no, how much do you pay for both?

I don't see any deception in the language, you just have to verify that you have a legitimate TV provider. This is just supplemental coverage to what you already pay for, not free online viewing. No media company that plans on making money is trying to increase how much they can pump out that generates no direct revenue. I work for a newspaper, and we're no different. To access our website beyond a certain number of times you either need to pay, or sign up for a subscription. I'm assuming you chose Time Warner cable to save money, which is fine and a smart choice, but I think it's a bit unfair to point fingers and say something is wrong or deceptive just because you're missing out on a certain option because you went with a money saving route.

This could all be wrong, too, of course.
Oh....never mind.
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JW381 5/25/2013 8:20am
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JW381 wrote:
I guess I get what you're saying, but here's how I view your complaint. First I'll have to ask a few questions, if you don't mind...
I guess I get what you're saying, but here's how I view your complaint. First I'll have to ask a few questions, if you don't mind.

You pay for Time Warner cable, and that's not in the group of providers that allow access to the NBCS Extra coverage? Do you pay for internet separately from cable? If yes, how much do you pay (it can be proportionally) and if no, how much do you pay for both?

I don't see any deception in the language, you just have to verify that you have a legitimate TV provider. This is just supplemental coverage to what you already pay for, not free online viewing. No media company that plans on making money is trying to increase how much they can pump out that generates no direct revenue. I work for a newspaper, and we're no different. To access our website beyond a certain number of times you either need to pay, or sign up for a subscription. I'm assuming you chose Time Warner cable to save money, which is fine and a smart choice, but I think it's a bit unfair to point fingers and say something is wrong or deceptive just because you're missing out on a certain option because you went with a money saving route.

This could all be wrong, too, of course.
WhipMeister wrote:
Oh....never mind.
Haha fair enough, my bad.
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Ipad works with no cable verification.
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ocscottie 5/25/2013 10:12am
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Looks like the practice stream worked for everyone Cool
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Check the sticky links thread Whistling
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WhipMeister wrote:
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate. But I find leading language that says...
Not trying to ignite yet another internet pissing match. And, by and large, I am a free market advocate.

But I find leading language that says "You Must Verify Your Cable, Satellite, or Telco TV provider", that, in reality, actually means, "You can only watch this program if you have already purchased a pay TV service provided by people that pay us, too." to be, sadly, deceptive and usurious.

There's an honest buck. And then there's just a buck.

But, then again, it *is* NBC.
GuyB wrote:
On my iPad I can watch TV on an HBO Go app. I have to verify that I'm a subscriber to HBO. It's no different.
I get NBC sports network on my cable plan, but they don't have my cable provider listed so I can't verify it.

I think that's the problem some of us seem to have.
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CamP 5/25/2013 5:01pm
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I never turn on the TV so paying for cable/satellite would be burning money. Fortunately, justin.tv came through!
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JW381 wrote:
I guess I get what you're saying, but here's how I view your complaint. First I'll have to ask a few questions, if you don't mind...
I guess I get what you're saying, but here's how I view your complaint. First I'll have to ask a few questions, if you don't mind.

You pay for Time Warner cable, and that's not in the group of providers that allow access to the NBCS Extra coverage? Do you pay for internet separately from cable? If yes, how much do you pay (it can be proportionally) and if no, how much do you pay for both?

I don't see any deception in the language, you just have to verify that you have a legitimate TV provider. This is just supplemental coverage to what you already pay for, not free online viewing. No media company that plans on making money is trying to increase how much they can pump out that generates no direct revenue. I work for a newspaper, and we're no different. To access our website beyond a certain number of times you either need to pay, or sign up for a subscription. I'm assuming you chose Time Warner cable to save money, which is fine and a smart choice, but I think it's a bit unfair to point fingers and say something is wrong or deceptive just because you're missing out on a certain option because you went with a money saving route.

This could all be wrong, too, of course.
WhipMeister wrote:
Oh....never mind.
JW381 wrote:
Haha fair enough, my bad.
I have Time Warner Cable, I also pay extra to Time Warner to receive the "package" that includes the NBC Sports channel. Last week I could not watch the race online because Time Warner was not on the "list". Luckily all the moto's were live on TV so I could watch them this week. Last week I was screwed.

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