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when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who pretty much did it in their own dime.

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kongols 2/11/2013 8:37am
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That`s a lot of bologna. Reed got a lot of support from his parents growing up. They had their own property to train at.
It`s no different what Roczen is doing now. His parents are in Germany. In fact Roczen did it earlier than Reed.
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Motocross Illustrated wrote:
when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who...
when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who pretty much did it in their own dime.

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Dungey did it on his own dime?? his mother and father were and still are a major part of his program as an amateur and now as an adult. Hell, isnt his dad still his practice machanic??
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That`s a lot of bologna. Reed got a lot of support from his parents growing up. They had their own property to train at. It`s no...
That`s a lot of bologna. Reed got a lot of support from his parents growing up. They had their own property to train at.
It`s no different what Roczen is doing now. His parents are in Germany. In fact Roczen did it earlier than Reed.
Reed got little help from his parents. Compared to Villopoto he got very little help. They took him to local races in OZ, but thats a little different than how Villy got it.
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when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who...
when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who pretty much did it in their own dime.

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dehner47 wrote:
Dungey did it on his own dime?? his mother and father were and still are a major part of his program as an amateur and now...
Dungey did it on his own dime?? his mother and father were and still are a major part of his program as an amateur and now as an adult. Hell, isnt his dad still his practice machanic??
I wasnt sure about dungey, then even more respect for Reed.

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You can't make it "on your own" as a kid...... Reed had lots of help and pretty much followed the same path as an amatuer in OZ as kids do here in the states for the most part...I can sort of see the Reed story being similar to RV's.....The Family was a "TEAM" during the childhood/young teen racing years......then enter manhood... then enter the girlfriend.....time is now shared between parents and girlfriend.....the money starts coming in .....decisions are then made between rider/girlfriend while parents get left out.....parents think the girlfriend just wants money and control... it creats a big riff and things can get ugly....Reed went to the states - left mom and dad behind - but took girlfriend/wife.......family isnt in the mix for many years....people dont talk.....but eventually they all come around again...
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You can't make it "on your own" as a kid...... Reed had lots of help and pretty much followed the same path as an amatuer in...
You can't make it "on your own" as a kid...... Reed had lots of help and pretty much followed the same path as an amatuer in OZ as kids do here in the states for the most part...I can sort of see the Reed story being similar to RV's.....The Family was a "TEAM" during the childhood/young teen racing years......then enter manhood... then enter the girlfriend.....time is now shared between parents and girlfriend.....the money starts coming in .....decisions are then made between rider/girlfriend while parents get left out.....parents think the girlfriend just wants money and control... it creats a big riff and things can get ugly....Reed went to the states - left mom and dad behind - but took girlfriend/wife.......family isnt in the mix for many years....people dont talk.....but eventually they all come around again...
Mate, the amateur scene in OZ is a little different than the American scene. Reed scored a Suzuki deal when he was like 14 or something. I think that was as much his help as anything. From memory he turned pro at 15 or 16 and started winning pretty quickly.

Reed arrived in Europe alone, not family, just his girlfriend, did the same in USA. That is pretty impressive in my eyes, despite what you might think.

And I do believe Aussies are more likely to do something like that than many other countries, or maybe South Africans and Kiwis. World travellers.

His parents didn´t sell their house to fund his racing.

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All kids are funded to some extent with their racing. My parents bought my first bike, bought a property in the country and we build a track on it, I think a lot of kids had that. They bought bikes for all of us, but I hardly liken that to the Villopoto or Stewart deals. That is pretty extreme selling the family home for your kids racing. Or not?
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kongols 2/11/2013 9:08am
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As he says, his life has turned into "an amazing ride".

For that, he would certainly seem to owe his parents a vote of thanks - and has now proffered it, perhaps not before time.

When he first started showing an interest in motorbikes as a young boy, they purchased a block of land on which they built a training circuit instead of a house.

This was in Kurri Kurri, an old Hunter Valley coal-mining town of about 5500 people that has also produced MotoGP world champion Casey Stoner as well as rugby league star Andrew Johns.

The Reeds and their three children - Chad the oldest - lived in a caravan for nearly two years while he came to grips with the skills required to pilot a bike over dirt obstacles without coming to grief too often.

Later, Mark - a concreter by trade, then and still -- built a shed, and finally a house, where he and his wife still live.

"Dad bought a bobcat and would work all day and then come home and he and I would work on rebuilding the track, which was a never-ending job," Chad said.

"We were passionate about it - we lived for the sport."

But by the time Chad succumbed to itchy feet and ambition and left for overseas in 2001 - taking his high school sweetheart and future wife Ellie with him - the father-son relationship had begun to fray.

"Mark was hard in the sense that you had to do the right thing, and they both had a stubborn streak," Robyn said.

It's not an uncommon story in families, sometimes with sadly permanent outcomes.

This one seems to have been in danger of ending up like that.

As Chad established himself in America, communication was both rare and strained.
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As he says, his life has turned into "an amazing ride". For that, he would certainly seem to owe his parents a vote of thanks -...
As he says, his life has turned into "an amazing ride".

For that, he would certainly seem to owe his parents a vote of thanks - and has now proffered it, perhaps not before time.

When he first started showing an interest in motorbikes as a young boy, they purchased a block of land on which they built a training circuit instead of a house.

This was in Kurri Kurri, an old Hunter Valley coal-mining town of about 5500 people that has also produced MotoGP world champion Casey Stoner as well as rugby league star Andrew Johns.

The Reeds and their three children - Chad the oldest - lived in a caravan for nearly two years while he came to grips with the skills required to pilot a bike over dirt obstacles without coming to grief too often.

Later, Mark - a concreter by trade, then and still -- built a shed, and finally a house, where he and his wife still live.

"Dad bought a bobcat and would work all day and then come home and he and I would work on rebuilding the track, which was a never-ending job," Chad said.

"We were passionate about it - we lived for the sport."

But by the time Chad succumbed to itchy feet and ambition and left for overseas in 2001 - taking his high school sweetheart and future wife Ellie with him - the father-son relationship had begun to fray.

"Mark was hard in the sense that you had to do the right thing, and they both had a stubborn streak," Robyn said.

It's not an uncommon story in families, sometimes with sadly permanent outcomes.

This one seems to have been in danger of ending up like that.

As Chad established himself in America, communication was both rare and strained.
Mate, sounds like the story of thousands of Aussies. My parents also bought a block of land, we lived in a caravan. This isn't anything like Villopoto and Stewart. Reeds dad had an average job. I know the Reed story from people who were involved, not from some story you found on the internet.

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As he says, his life has turned into "an amazing ride". For that, he would certainly seem to owe his parents a vote of thanks -...
As he says, his life has turned into "an amazing ride".

For that, he would certainly seem to owe his parents a vote of thanks - and has now proffered it, perhaps not before time.

When he first started showing an interest in motorbikes as a young boy, they purchased a block of land on which they built a training circuit instead of a house.

This was in Kurri Kurri, an old Hunter Valley coal-mining town of about 5500 people that has also produced MotoGP world champion Casey Stoner as well as rugby league star Andrew Johns.

The Reeds and their three children - Chad the oldest - lived in a caravan for nearly two years while he came to grips with the skills required to pilot a bike over dirt obstacles without coming to grief too often.

Later, Mark - a concreter by trade, then and still -- built a shed, and finally a house, where he and his wife still live.

"Dad bought a bobcat and would work all day and then come home and he and I would work on rebuilding the track, which was a never-ending job," Chad said.

"We were passionate about it - we lived for the sport."

But by the time Chad succumbed to itchy feet and ambition and left for overseas in 2001 - taking his high school sweetheart and future wife Ellie with him - the father-son relationship had begun to fray.

"Mark was hard in the sense that you had to do the right thing, and they both had a stubborn streak," Robyn said.

It's not an uncommon story in families, sometimes with sadly permanent outcomes.

This one seems to have been in danger of ending up like that.

As Chad established himself in America, communication was both rare and strained.
and of course he owes his parents thanks, we all owe our parents thanks
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kongols 2/11/2013 9:19am
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Mate, sounds like the story of thousands of Aussies. My parents also bought a block of land, we lived in a caravan. This isn't anything like...
Mate, sounds like the story of thousands of Aussies. My parents also bought a block of land, we lived in a caravan. This isn't anything like Villopoto and Stewart. Reeds dad had an average job. I know the Reed story from people who were involved, not from some story you found on the internet.

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This story was done by Ron Reed of Herald Sun.
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kongols wrote:
As he says, his life has turned into "an amazing ride". For that, he would certainly seem to owe his parents a vote of thanks -...
As he says, his life has turned into "an amazing ride".

For that, he would certainly seem to owe his parents a vote of thanks - and has now proffered it, perhaps not before time.

When he first started showing an interest in motorbikes as a young boy, they purchased a block of land on which they built a training circuit instead of a house.

This was in Kurri Kurri, an old Hunter Valley coal-mining town of about 5500 people that has also produced MotoGP world champion Casey Stoner as well as rugby league star Andrew Johns.

The Reeds and their three children - Chad the oldest - lived in a caravan for nearly two years while he came to grips with the skills required to pilot a bike over dirt obstacles without coming to grief too often.

Later, Mark - a concreter by trade, then and still -- built a shed, and finally a house, where he and his wife still live.

"Dad bought a bobcat and would work all day and then come home and he and I would work on rebuilding the track, which was a never-ending job," Chad said.

"We were passionate about it - we lived for the sport."

But by the time Chad succumbed to itchy feet and ambition and left for overseas in 2001 - taking his high school sweetheart and future wife Ellie with him - the father-son relationship had begun to fray.

"Mark was hard in the sense that you had to do the right thing, and they both had a stubborn streak," Robyn said.

It's not an uncommon story in families, sometimes with sadly permanent outcomes.

This one seems to have been in danger of ending up like that.

As Chad established himself in America, communication was both rare and strained.
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Mate, sounds like the story of thousands of Aussies. My parents also bought a block of land, we lived in a caravan. This isn't anything like...
Mate, sounds like the story of thousands of Aussies. My parents also bought a block of land, we lived in a caravan. This isn't anything like Villopoto and Stewart. Reeds dad had an average job. I know the Reed story from people who were involved, not from some story you found on the internet.

Geoff
What sort of job do you think that Villopoto's father had that wasn't "average"?
Motocross Illustrated 2/11/2013 9:23am
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As he says, his life has turned into "an amazing ride". For that, he would certainly seem to owe his parents a vote of thanks -...
As he says, his life has turned into "an amazing ride".

For that, he would certainly seem to owe his parents a vote of thanks - and has now proffered it, perhaps not before time.

When he first started showing an interest in motorbikes as a young boy, they purchased a block of land on which they built a training circuit instead of a house.

This was in Kurri Kurri, an old Hunter Valley coal-mining town of about 5500 people that has also produced MotoGP world champion Casey Stoner as well as rugby league star Andrew Johns.

The Reeds and their three children - Chad the oldest - lived in a caravan for nearly two years while he came to grips with the skills required to pilot a bike over dirt obstacles without coming to grief too often.

Later, Mark - a concreter by trade, then and still -- built a shed, and finally a house, where he and his wife still live.

"Dad bought a bobcat and would work all day and then come home and he and I would work on rebuilding the track, which was a never-ending job," Chad said.

"We were passionate about it - we lived for the sport."

But by the time Chad succumbed to itchy feet and ambition and left for overseas in 2001 - taking his high school sweetheart and future wife Ellie with him - the father-son relationship had begun to fray.

"Mark was hard in the sense that you had to do the right thing, and they both had a stubborn streak," Robyn said.

It's not an uncommon story in families, sometimes with sadly permanent outcomes.

This one seems to have been in danger of ending up like that.

As Chad established himself in America, communication was both rare and strained.
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Mate, sounds like the story of thousands of Aussies. My parents also bought a block of land, we lived in a caravan. This isn't anything like...
Mate, sounds like the story of thousands of Aussies. My parents also bought a block of land, we lived in a caravan. This isn't anything like Villopoto and Stewart. Reeds dad had an average job. I know the Reed story from people who were involved, not from some story you found on the internet.

Geoff
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What sort of job do you think that Villopoto's father had that wasn't "average"?
They sold the family home. From what I gather Villopotos dad build houses?
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Mate, sounds like the story of thousands of Aussies. My parents also bought a block of land, we lived in a caravan. This isn't anything like...
Mate, sounds like the story of thousands of Aussies. My parents also bought a block of land, we lived in a caravan. This isn't anything like Villopoto and Stewart. Reeds dad had an average job. I know the Reed story from people who were involved, not from some story you found on the internet.

Geoff
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What sort of job do you think that Villopoto's father had that wasn't "average"?
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They sold the family home. From what I gather Villopotos dad build houses?
He's a contractor, like Reed's father........

That's fairly average.
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kongols 2/11/2013 9:33am
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It looks to me you`re trying to belittle what Reed`s parent`s did to emphasize how ruff Reed had it compered to Americans.
You don`t change, same shit different subject.
I`m out.
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seth505 2/11/2013 9:43am
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I don't understand the point of this thread, none of them did it on their own.
ButteryWaffles 2/11/2013 9:47am
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Stewarts father collected cans before landing an "above average" job at Coca Cola..
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seth505 wrote:
I don't understand the point of this thread, none of them did it on their own.
Ronnie Mac did it on his own! And he's still doing it... like a boss!

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sundios 2/11/2013 9:57am
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You guys are talking about guys that live in First world countries. I don't take anything from Reed. But i think guys like Fonseca or Davalos had less opportunities than reed or another else. I can say that because i am from a third world country and is almost impossible to even think of make a living from dirtbikes.
But at the same time this is how bad you want it. Every pro rider has come a long way to be were they are and sacrificed a lot of things to become what they are now. The family play a big part but if the rider doesnt want to be as succesfull as their parents wants him to be. he will fail
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I have respect for Reed but it has nothing to do with his parental upbringing or financial support. Whether your bike was given to you or if you reached into your own pocket and purchased your own bike and parts has no effect on how fast you are on Sunday.
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It looks to me you`re trying to belittle what Reed`s parent`s did to emphasize how ruff Reed had it compered to Americans. You don`t change, same...
It looks to me you`re trying to belittle what Reed`s parent`s did to emphasize how ruff Reed had it compered to Americans.
You don`t change, same shit different subject.
I`m out.
Right, that is why I also mentioned Dungey.............
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seth505 wrote:
I don't understand the point of this thread, none of them did it on their own.
ga_pike wrote:
Ronnie Mac did it on his own! And he's still doing it... like a boss!
Doesn't Ronny Mac get support from Canard?
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rcm406 2/11/2013 10:23am
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when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who...
when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who pretty much did it in their own dime.

Geoff
The Stewarts were dirt poor when James was coming up! Know your facts before coming in here spewing your BS! In fact, I would go so far to say that James had it rougher going through the ameteurs than Reed did. Can you imagine being black in an all white sport going to these backwoods redneck tracks in the deep south? For a 5-10 year old, that had to be brutal on James and his family.
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I didnt say what Reed did wasnt impressive....all these guys are impressive....Just seemed like you were saying Reed did everything on his own and didnt have any help as a kid, when he was the equivlant to a USA amatuer rider over in OZ..Like I said when the money started coming in...so did the family problems....
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Anyone who can quailfy for the night show gets my full respect.
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when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who...
when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who pretty much did it in their own dime.

Geoff
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The Stewarts were dirt poor when James was coming up! Know your facts before coming in here spewing your BS! In fact, I would go so...
The Stewarts were dirt poor when James was coming up! Know your facts before coming in here spewing your BS! In fact, I would go so far to say that James had it rougher going through the ameteurs than Reed did. Can you imagine being black in an all white sport going to these backwoods redneck tracks in the deep south? For a 5-10 year old, that had to be brutal on James and his family.
Totally agree with you.
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when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who...
when you see how much help Villopoto got and how much Stewarts parents helped him and then you have Reed (and I am guessing dungey) who pretty much did it in their own dime.

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rcm406 wrote:
The Stewarts were dirt poor when James was coming up! Know your facts before coming in here spewing your BS! In fact, I would go so...
The Stewarts were dirt poor when James was coming up! Know your facts before coming in here spewing your BS! In fact, I would go so far to say that James had it rougher going through the ameteurs than Reed did. Can you imagine being black in an all white sport going to these backwoods redneck tracks in the deep south? For a 5-10 year old, that had to be brutal on James and his family.
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Totally agree with you.
I wasn't just talking financial support.......
louis.bernard.564 2/11/2013 10:56am
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I don't understand the point of this thread, none of them did it on their own.
Same here, for sure some parents did more (and sometimes too much), but any pro racer had more support that most kids on earth!
more than 10 fast bikes paid by the parents before getting supported
thousand miles driven to train & race
often thousands of hours as mechanic
some had a track

No disrespect to Reed, I am a big fan.
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FreshTopEnd 2/11/2013 11:31am
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Have always admired Reed's strength of will. He may be second to none in that respect. That said, I think the same can be said for most of the guys who have sustained success at the top in the sport. No amount of support substitutes for that, as can be seen by guys who get a lot of support early on and fall by the wayside.

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