So when does Suzuki start to throw some factory parts Milsaps way.

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Edited Date/Time 2/11/2013 8:31pm
I know he is doing just fine without the factory support but as the season moves on and gets closer to the championship finish will Suzuki step up and start to back Davi. For Suzuki they would be crazy not to give Davi what ever parts and support he needs if James and RCH are totally out of the title fight.
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2/10/2013 6:16pm Edited Date/Time 2/10/2013 6:28pm
kong0036 wrote:
I know he is doing just fine without the factory support but as the season moves on and gets closer to the championship finish will Suzuki...
I know he is doing just fine without the factory support but as the season moves on and gets closer to the championship finish will Suzuki step up and start to back Davi. For Suzuki they would be crazy not to give Davi what ever parts and support he needs if James and RCH are totally out of the title fight.
Why?

Why try to change what's working? I mean you can always test and you don't want to get complacent but, that team has i going on.


The argument about Factory Bikes Vs. Non Factory Bikes on this site makes me laugh. He looks to have a great team with his bike sorted.

The biggest advantage a "factory guy" has is support in the way of mechanics, suspension techs, motor guys. Aftermarket parts are phenomenal, as long as you have the support to test and get them working for you. Davi's team has that.

Look at Short, his results have not suffered since getting off the "Factory Bike"
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2/10/2013 6:18pm
How much more in 1st place can he possibly get ?
2/10/2013 6:18pm
I think he already has the SFF air forks....if that counts as factory.....
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2/10/2013 6:18pm
Is Shorty even better since losing the factory stuff, or just getting more exposure due to the hardship. Not being mean and not trying to thread jack, just curious since Regis brought it up.

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2/10/2013 6:20pm
What ever broke in that heat race at A2 they should give him an unbreakable one of those! Other than that he seems pretty dialed.
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2/10/2013 6:24pm
All I'd want from them is some extra cash.
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2/10/2013 6:26pm
I think I know which factory part they'd appreciate the most, but it's also the one in $horte$t $upply.
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2/10/2013 6:30pm
kong0036 wrote:
I know he is doing just fine without the factory support but as the season moves on and gets closer to the championship finish will Suzuki...
I know he is doing just fine without the factory support but as the season moves on and gets closer to the championship finish will Suzuki step up and start to back Davi. For Suzuki they would be crazy not to give Davi what ever parts and support he needs if James and RCH are totally out of the title fight.
Regis wrote:
Why? Why try to change what's working? I mean you can always test and you don't want to get complacent but, that team has i going...
Why?

Why try to change what's working? I mean you can always test and you don't want to get complacent but, that team has i going on.


The argument about Factory Bikes Vs. Non Factory Bikes on this site makes me laugh. He looks to have a great team with his bike sorted.

The biggest advantage a "factory guy" has is support in the way of mechanics, suspension techs, motor guys. Aftermarket parts are phenomenal, as long as you have the support to test and get them working for you. Davi's team has that.

Look at Short, his results have not suffered since getting off the "Factory Bike"
I agree. Rockstar Racing has their bikes dialed right now. They don't need to change anything. Anderson is top 5 every week right now and is the best of the rest in the 250's after Tomac and Roczen. Davi is getting good starts, winning races, and is the points leader. Wharton will probably be top 3 every week on the East coast.

What is funny, is that when this team was Suzuki's 250 team in 2011 and receiving the factory goodies, they had sub-par results. From what I've seen and researched, Rockstar is paying for everything. They have their own track at Milestone and the engines and suspension are all in-house. They choose to ride Suzuki's. Whatever it is, it is working very well right now.
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2/10/2013 6:30pm Edited Date/Time 2/10/2013 6:30pm
GuyB wrote:
I think I know which factory part they'd appreciate the most, but it's also the one in $horte$t $upply.
I see what you did there.... Smile
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2/10/2013 6:43pm
GuyB wrote:
I think I know which factory part they'd appreciate the most, but it's also the one in $horte$t $upply.
Regis wrote:
I see what you did there.... Smile
What? What did he do? Tongue
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2/10/2013 6:52pm
GuyB wrote:
I think I know which factory part they'd appreciate the most, but it's also the one in $horte$t $upply.
That$ for $ure
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2/10/2013 6:57pm
GuyB wrote:
I think I know which factory part they'd appreciate the most, but it's also the one in $horte$t $upply.
Regis wrote:
I see what you did there.... Smile
pilotdude wrote:
What? What did he do? Tongue
I think your "s" key is broken... There seem to be vertical lines on them?

I see what you did there also. Apparently $$$ is true unobtanium
2/10/2013 7:20pm
MR. X wrote:
How much more in 1st place can he possibly get ?
exactly!!
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2/10/2013 11:44pm
I know that there were talks at Suzuki about the Rockstar Energy Racing team and possibly stepping up, but according to Davi's mechanic they never heard anything from the manufacturer. The Showa SFF Air forks are not a "bone" thrown to the team by Suzuki...Davi started testing them in December and has had the option to run them all along, but only a couple weeks ago became comfortable enough with the settings to race with them.
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2/10/2013 11:51pm
GuyB wrote:
I think I know which factory part they'd appreciate the most, but it's also the one in $horte$t $upply.
Regis wrote:
I see what you did there.... Smile
Ha!!!
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2/11/2013 12:45am
kong0036 wrote:
I know he is doing just fine without the factory support but as the season moves on and gets closer to the championship finish will Suzuki...
I know he is doing just fine without the factory support but as the season moves on and gets closer to the championship finish will Suzuki step up and start to back Davi. For Suzuki they would be crazy not to give Davi what ever parts and support he needs if James and RCH are totally out of the title fight.
I remember when I used to think factory parts would make me a better rider but sadly I was so wrong. For Sx especially it is much more about getting a very good set up and feel from a bike. With a standard 450 making over 50hp power is not an issue, but refining the whole package and possibly getting the weight down so the rider gets the best feel and confidence from his machine.
It is clear to see the riders who have not quite got their set up spot on just yet.
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2/11/2013 12:49am
Why would he switch to factory parts? What he has now is doing the trick. Factories don't give parts, rockstar has to lease them. Who knows if they have the cash to buy the parts.
2/11/2013 1:17am
kong0036 wrote:
I know he is doing just fine without the factory support but as the season moves on and gets closer to the championship finish will Suzuki...
I know he is doing just fine without the factory support but as the season moves on and gets closer to the championship finish will Suzuki step up and start to back Davi. For Suzuki they would be crazy not to give Davi what ever parts and support he needs if James and RCH are totally out of the title fight.
surely already happening ?

given the factory rider out of the points chase.
2/11/2013 1:26am
Aint broke, dont fix it.

The team are doing just fine - and it is god damn refreshing to see it, just like with 800 and MC in last years outdoors.

Same with Shorty - he is doing no worse.

Remember CP377 - preferred less factory equipment.

Not every rider performs better with the all singing all dancing bells n whistles.
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2/11/2013 1:28am Edited Date/Time 2/11/2013 1:58am
Clearly, Davi and the Rockstar team have got it going on right now. I guess you could apply the old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it."

However, he might as well test the factory bike/parts with an open mind if the opportunity presents itself. Who is to say they wouldn't be better? Chad Reed was riding really well on his Pro Circuit bike in 2011, but still opted to switch to the Factory Honda after being given the chance to test it.
2/11/2013 3:31am
I expect they have the option to purchase more 'Factory' parts but dont want to.

Suzuki Japan will already have there budget allocated to Yoshimura Suzuki so where is the money coming from..........................................?

Yoshimura Suzuki are not going to spend money on another private team. Why would they.......

Rockstar Suzuki are effectivelly their competitor for budget in future years
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2/11/2013 4:34am
I bet Reed is thinking that factory support is a double edged sword with regard to the air forks (I'm assuming here that it's true what I've read about his thoughts on them and that he has to run them).

If I recall correctly from 2011 it wasn't the obvious stuff like motor and suspension that Reed really wanted from Honda, it was other bits and pieces like the special tranny, hydraulic clutch etc. Maybe Davi doesn't need those, but I bet if offered they would at least test them and use them if all went well.
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2/11/2013 4:37am
...maybe when they start officially stating that they are a Suzuki team Laughing
2/11/2013 4:46am
maybe, just maybe the Rockstar team are happy with their parts and ability to pick and choose with cash what parts they run or dont run.
maybe they don't want shit to do with being "supported" and are happy to take credit for race wins while choosing the yellow bike as their platform, if I remember right they did an interview in 11 saying they chose yellow because it was very easy to make fast as was a great package out the box, perhaps somebody has a more specific memory but i am pretty sure it was on Vital home page as well.

if i was the owner i would be keeping my well earned freedom status of being an individual team that has worked damn hard to pick a good team who are now getting the results they deserve - it's not like they are struggling for $$$$
2/11/2013 6:08am
GuyB wrote:
I think I know which factory part they'd appreciate the most, but it's also the one in $horte$t $upply.
I like what you did there.
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2/11/2013 6:58am
GuyB wrote:
I think I know which factory part they'd appreciate the most, but it's also the one in $horte$t $upply.
I see what you did there. Youre a smart fellar ! Now I understand why you get paid the big bucks 'round here.

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2/11/2013 7:22am
Suzuki should gladly give Davi any parts he may want to use or try. Suzuki should pull resources and parts from RCH and start supporting Davi. They are definitely pissing in the wind by supporting the RCH crew!!
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2/11/2013 8:09am Edited Date/Time 2/11/2013 8:09am
If it ain't broke don't fix it. Plus, how cool would it be if Davi wins the championship without the help from factory parts?
2/11/2013 8:31am
What incentive does Suzuki have to give Davi anything? The same question with Short/Honda.

Both riders are doing well without factory support and their bikes are brand-recognizable.

Honda and Suzuki are getting a 'bang' without spending any 'bucks.'
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2/11/2013 8:38am
why would Suzuki buy the cow, when they getting the milk for free!!!

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