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RandyS 1/24/2013 12:49pm
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I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore moto fan MC is at best a distant memory.
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premixwhip491 wrote:
How could a team with Larry Brooks, Jeremy McGrath, and Andrew Short not get the sponsorship money needed to build a topnotch team?
berno929 wrote:
The president of Best Buy (or other big companies) don't know who Larry Brooks is and doesn't care. Jeremy McGrath does not race anymore and I...
The president of Best Buy (or other big companies) don't know who Larry Brooks is and doesn't care. Jeremy McGrath does not race anymore and I don't think he goes to that many races... His name isn't anywhere, its just us freaks that knows he's part owner or something. Andrew Short has 3 solid rides so far this year but I don't think I've seen him on TV... only thing I've seen of him online since the outdoors finished is that his team might be done and an argument on how to spell Chaparral. Why would a big company give him a million $ with odds of him getting hurt being more than 50%??

Those small BIG teams only make sense if you have a podium guy...
This^^^^^
As I stated in another thead, all he would need is a box van, and nice tent and his tech to pick him up at the airport and drop him off when he's done his race.......Tech drives from race to race in the van and sleeps in the camper, it worked before and it will work now.
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Honda Factory Lease program is expensive.
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GuyB wrote:
SRP33, congratulations on picking the worst possible situation to spam your stuff. That was incredibly douchey.
SRP33 wrote:
spam what are you talking about they have no money to go racing bottom line it was a different story when I had 3 mill for...
spam what are you talking about they have no money to go racing bottom line
it was a different story when I had 3 mill for Larry and McCrath in 2001 flew out to do the deal and McCraths lawyer told me he went Bud Light KTM so I went to Suzuki with the Sobe Money so I don't want to hear it



and it is to bad barcia didn't use the shield it may have prevented him from braking his noise
but a its the same old story year after year GUY B teams come and go why NO MONEY so call it spam or not
but the bottom line is Short is out of a ride and he shouldn't be
That shield would slow the rider down, even tenths of a second is a no.

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jasonv43 1/24/2013 1:09pm
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RandyS wrote:
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore...
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore moto fan MC is at best a distant memory.
I guess you missed that MMI commercial they showed during the broadcast.
motokiwi 1/24/2013 1:11pm
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premixwhip491 wrote:
How could a team with Larry Brooks, Jeremy McGrath, and Andrew Short not get the sponsorship money needed to build a topnotch team?
Probably because they are all excellent racers / managers but not marketers. Marketing first racing second.
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jasonv43 1/24/2013 1:13pm
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RandyS wrote:
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore...
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore moto fan MC is at best a distant memory.
jasonv43 wrote:
I guess you missed that MMI commercial they showed during the broadcast.
https://youtu.be/6W5ZDJm8sPI?list=PL6326A74E4E8E9285
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GuyB wrote:
SRP33, congratulations on picking the worst possible situation to spam your stuff. That was incredibly douchey.
SRP33 wrote:
spam what are you talking about they have no money to go racing bottom line it was a different story when I had 3 mill for...
spam what are you talking about they have no money to go racing bottom line
it was a different story when I had 3 mill for Larry and McCrath in 2001 flew out to do the deal and McCraths lawyer told me he went Bud Light KTM so I went to Suzuki with the Sobe Money so I don't want to hear it



and it is to bad barcia didn't use the shield it may have prevented him from braking his noise
but a its the same old story year after year GUY B teams come and go why NO MONEY so call it spam or not
but the bottom line is Short is out of a ride and he shouldn't be
$3mil of John B'ello'ss $$$.....The lizard King.....
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MT MX 1/24/2013 1:15pm
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RandyS wrote:
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore...
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore moto fan MC is at best a distant memory.
jasonv43 wrote:
I guess you missed that MMI commercial they showed during the broadcast.
Also, who knows how his wife is doing. She's been through alot.
He also is racing trucks now, so he's a tad bit busy.
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jasonv43 1/24/2013 1:18pm
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RandyS wrote:
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore...
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore moto fan MC is at best a distant memory.
jasonv43 wrote:
I guess you missed that MMI commercial they showed during the broadcast.
MT MX wrote:
Also, who knows how his wife is doing. She's been through alot.
He also is racing trucks now, so he's a tad bit busy.
Wife is actually doing pretty good last I heard.

He's still very relevant in the sport.
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TripleFive wrote:
This story is crazy. Who saw this coming? Completely out of left field.
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel…

Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks and sucks for McGrath. All good guys that are 100% moto. Thanks for the effort guys!!
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GrapeApe 1/24/2013 1:28pm
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TripleFive wrote:
This story is crazy. Who saw this coming? Completely out of left field.
newmann wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel-semi,1248067?page=1 Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks...
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel…

Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks and sucks for McGrath. All good guys that are 100% moto. Thanks for the effort guys!!
Joe I think it might be time to check the valve clearance on your sarcasm detector Wink
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GuyB 1/24/2013 1:32pm
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TripleFive wrote:
This story is crazy. Who saw this coming? Completely out of left field.
newmann wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel-semi,1248067?page=1 Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks...
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel…

Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks and sucks for McGrath. All good guys that are 100% moto. Thanks for the effort guys!!
Showing up for press day in a pickup is not uncommon. Stewart's bike at A2? Pickup.
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ocscottie 1/24/2013 1:37pm
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@pulpmx People in Oakland say the L&M truck is parked w the Honda guys & Short's bike in Honda truck so maybe that's where his next home is
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MBBadgers 1/24/2013 1:39pm
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RandyS wrote:
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore...
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore moto fan MC is at best a distant memory.
really? go to his twitter and instagram accounts and see how many people are following him.
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GuyB 1/24/2013 1:45pm
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ocscottie wrote:
@pulpmx [i]People in Oakland say the L&M truck is parked w the Honda guys & Short's bike in Honda truck so maybe that's where his next...
@pulpmx People in Oakland say the L&M truck is parked w the Honda guys & Short's bike in Honda truck so maybe that's where his next home is
In previous seasons I've see Shorty's bike go directly to the Honda truck after races. That's not really new.
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TripleFive wrote:
This story is crazy. Who saw this coming? Completely out of left field.
newmann wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel-semi,1248067?page=1 Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks...
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel…

Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks and sucks for McGrath. All good guys that are 100% moto. Thanks for the effort guys!!
the sarcasm meter is running low today buddy
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ocscottie 1/24/2013 1:51pm
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GuyB wrote:
In previous seasons I've see Shorty's bike go directly to the Honda truck after races. That's not really new.
I was gonna add that...figured just more for ppl to talk about it and come up w/ some crazy conclusions, you know how it works Laughing

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TripleFive wrote:
This story is crazy. Who saw this coming? Completely out of left field.
newmann wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel-semi,1248067?page=1 Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks...
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel…

Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks and sucks for McGrath. All good guys that are 100% moto. Thanks for the effort guys!!
GuyB wrote:
Showing up for press day in a pickup is not uncommon. Stewart's bike at A2? Pickup.
Stewart's a little more relevant than Short. Or Larry. Or McGrath, for that matter. James can show up on a Chinese knock-off and nobody's batting an eye. L&M's semi arrives a day late? Stop the presses!
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velocitygear 1/24/2013 2:05pm
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So, who backed out of their contract?
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This is lame. Sad
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velocitygear wrote:
So, who backed out of their contract?
I'm not sure that anyone backed out. My guess is that Kevin retiring set things in motion.

I've also heard from what I consider a reliable source is that GEICO Honda will be Shorty's new home.
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Andrew should latch onto the Ronnie Mac bandwagon ...he could be older brother Jebedia Mac. Get Budweiser to sponser the team. Maybe Fly could make some denim and flannel riding gear.

Maybe Honda could hire Short to run interference for Trey and Barcia...sort of an enforcer role.
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TripleFive wrote:
This story is crazy. Who saw this coming? Completely out of left field.
newmann wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel-semi,1248067?page=1 Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks...
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel…

Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks and sucks for McGrath. All good guys that are 100% moto. Thanks for the effort guys!!
GrapeApe wrote:
Joe I think it might be time to check the valve clearance on your sarcasm detector Wink
Give me a break, I've actually had to work today. Manual labor is getting tougher and tougher the older and fatter I get. Takes a toll on the brain too...Dizzy
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RandyS 1/24/2013 2:20pm
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I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore...
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore moto fan MC is at best a distant memory.
MBBadgers wrote:
really? go to his twitter and instagram accounts and see how many people are following him.
Travis Pastrana 580,581
Carey Hart 343,607
Ricky Carmichael 167,953
Malcolm Stewart 64,476
Jeremy McGrath 56,467 including me.
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DustinB333 1/24/2013 2:27pm
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RandyS wrote:
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore...
I was thinking about this yesterday. McGrath has not kept himself in the public eye the way RC and even Emig has. Outside of the hardcore moto fan MC is at best a distant memory.
MBBadgers wrote:
really? go to his twitter and instagram accounts and see how many people are following him.
RandyS wrote:
Travis Pastrana 580,581
Carey Hart 343,607
Ricky Carmichael 167,953
Malcolm Stewart 64,476
Jeremy McGrath 56,467 including me.
Short was hanging out in the Star racing rig alot at A2.
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stillwelding 1/24/2013 2:34pm
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v2. Los Angeles, CA (January 24, 2013) – L&Mc Racing, LLC will regrettably cease team racing operations for the 2013 season, immediately, as the result of...
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Los Angeles, CA (January 24, 2013) – L&Mc Racing, LLC will regrettably cease team racing operations for the 2013 season, immediately, as the result of circumstances beyond the team’s control.

L&Mc Racing principals, 7-time Supercross champion Jeremy McGrath and Team Manager, Larry Brooks, as well as their rider Andrew Short, are committed to running a program with the utmost level of professionalism however, recent unforeseen events outside of the team’s control have prevented that from occurring.

Larry Brooks and Jeremy McGrath wish their friend and colleague Andrew Short, the best of success in 2013 as he continues on with his career. According to McGrath, “We did our best to keep Andrew out on the track but forces out of our control dictated that we conclude the season much earlier than we anticipated or planned. Andrew is a class act and we wish him success throughout the rest of the season and beyond with his new team.” Added Larry Brooks, “Andrew has proven himself to be a great rider over the years, and my hope is that 2013 be no different for him.”

Jeremy McGrath and Larry Brooks wish to thank the current L&Mc Racing sponsors, Chaparral, Honda, WPS, Bel Ray, MMI, FMF, ODI, Talon, Dubya, Matrix, and Ironclad for their tireless support, exceptional loyalty and unwavering commitment to the L&Mc Race Team.
I liked V.1 better.

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GrapeApe 1/24/2013 2:41pm
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DustinB333 wrote:
Short was hanging out in the Star racing rig alot at A2.
Maybe because his bro-in-law is team manager?
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GrapeApe 1/24/2013 2:43pm
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newmann wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel-semi,1248067?page=1 Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks...
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Anyone-seen-the-Chapparel…

Left field? Really? Short shows up at A1 in his Ridgeline and this is out of left field. Sucks for Short, sucks for Larry Brooks and sucks for McGrath. All good guys that are 100% moto. Thanks for the effort guys!!
GrapeApe wrote:
Joe I think it might be time to check the valve clearance on your sarcasm detector Wink
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Give me a break, I've actually had to work today. Manual labor is getting tougher and tougher the older and fatter I get. Takes a toll...
Give me a break, I've actually had to work today. Manual labor is getting tougher and tougher the older and fatter I get. Takes a toll on the brain too...Dizzy
I can tell you're not focused, otherwise you would have taken exception to my implication that your sarcasm detector is a 4 stroke Smile
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velocitygear 1/24/2013 2:57pm
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velocitygear wrote:
So, who backed out of their contract?
GuyB wrote:
I'm not sure that anyone backed out. My guess is that Kevin retiring set things in motion. I've also heard from what I consider a reliable...
I'm not sure that anyone backed out. My guess is that Kevin retiring set things in motion.

I've also heard from what I consider a reliable source is that GEICO Honda will be Shorty's new home.
Thanks for that Wink

Not knowing much here;

So Windham retires; why does that make Mc/Brooks cease operations? Seems like a "party" didn't have the heart to continue? Once they heard Windham was out, they had no problem ducking out?

Again, I don't know, just want to...

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