What's Worse?

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pilotdude 1/16/2013 12:07pm
1/16/2013 12:07pm
peelout wrote:
ATV's = fun until your friends find out. much like a railing a fatty.

FMX = black eye for anything moto-related. also, twitch.

ATVFMX = herpes
Not many people make me laugh as much as you do. Laughing
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jeffro503 1/16/2013 12:25pm
1/16/2013 12:25pm
I got nothing against ATV guys as long as they don't ride the same track I am. It ruins every single line on the track.

AND....comparing lap times to the top pro in MX to ATV.....does not work. Even though some ATV guys tell you it's rough.....it is NOT MX rough! Go ride a track that ATV's have been on all day....on your bike.....it is like pavement compared to what Bikes do to the track.

I give the fast ATV guys prop's for their speed......but they are NOT riding the same surface as a full blown MX track. Go watch some of the Youtube vids on Pro ATV rounds.......then comp[are the surface to what a Pro MX round has to deal with.

Apples and oranges.
UpTiTe 1/16/2013 12:27pm
1/16/2013 12:27pm
bh84 wrote:
Here's RedBud's times from 2012 Bikes [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/01/16/redbudbikes_661833.PNG[/img] Quads [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2013/01/16/redbudquads_427176.PNG[/img]
Here's RedBud's times from 2012


Bikes



Quads

I was willing to put my neck out there in support of you, until you posted this.
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Predator 1/16/2013 12:47pm
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UpTiTe wrote:
I was willing to put my neck out there in support of you, until you posted this.
And why in the hell would you do something like that?

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Sheriff245 1/16/2013 12:56pm
1/16/2013 12:56pm
The problem is not the sport itself, but the people it attracts. In this case, both pretty much gather to the same crowd. I'm talking about the kind that hangs out in sand pits drinking beer between drag races and such. There are definitely more of those with quads than bikes, and those with bikes are more of the FMX kind.
brian.perteete 1/16/2013 1:29pm
1/16/2013 1:29pm
jeffro503 wrote:
I got nothing against ATV guys as long as they don't ride the same track I am. It ruins every single line on the track. AND....comparing...
I got nothing against ATV guys as long as they don't ride the same track I am. It ruins every single line on the track.

AND....comparing lap times to the top pro in MX to ATV.....does not work. Even though some ATV guys tell you it's rough.....it is NOT MX rough! Go ride a track that ATV's have been on all day....on your bike.....it is like pavement compared to what Bikes do to the track.

I give the fast ATV guys prop's for their speed......but they are NOT riding the same surface as a full blown MX track. Go watch some of the Youtube vids on Pro ATV rounds.......then comp[are the surface to what a Pro MX round has to deal with.

Apples and oranges.
^^^this
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jtomasik 1/16/2013 1:38pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
I got nothing against ATV guys as long as they don't ride the same track I am. It ruins every single line on the track. AND....comparing...
I got nothing against ATV guys as long as they don't ride the same track I am. It ruins every single line on the track.

AND....comparing lap times to the top pro in MX to ATV.....does not work. Even though some ATV guys tell you it's rough.....it is NOT MX rough! Go ride a track that ATV's have been on all day....on your bike.....it is like pavement compared to what Bikes do to the track.

I give the fast ATV guys prop's for their speed......but they are NOT riding the same surface as a full blown MX track. Go watch some of the Youtube vids on Pro ATV rounds.......then comp[are the surface to what a Pro MX round has to deal with.

Apples and oranges.
The Baja 1000 is a good, even playing field to measure the two. I don't recall the ATV's ever winning that event. Correct me if I'm wrong. In fact, I think bikes win it the majority of times, and have won something like the last 9 of 10 Baja races overall.

Oh, I don't really care one way or the other about ATV's. It's your freedom of choice. I don't even mind them on the local MX tracks. I don't, however, like them on the track at the same time as the bikes....they're a pain in the ass to pass, and they can be very dangerous to the bikes.
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Asher 1/16/2013 1:49pm
1/16/2013 1:49pm
comes claiming atvs can go round a track fast than dungey and wonders why atv riders get hate
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KlootZak 1/16/2013 1:53pm
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Choosing between a Quad or FMX, is like chosing between Ebola or Cholera ...
brian.perteete 1/16/2013 2:27pm
1/16/2013 2:27pm
Sheriff245 wrote:
The problem is not the sport itself, but the people it attracts. In this case, both pretty much gather to the same crowd. I'm talking about...
The problem is not the sport itself, but the people it attracts. In this case, both pretty much gather to the same crowd. I'm talking about the kind that hangs out in sand pits drinking beer between drag races and such. There are definitely more of those with quads than bikes, and those with bikes are more of the FMX kind.
yeah! I hate them guys...showin up in overalls and hiking boots lol. wearin retro 80's helmets w/ hankerchief mouth guards. drinkin PBR at the track lol


c'mon man...can't we all just ride along?
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enketchum 1/16/2013 2:32pm
1/16/2013 2:32pm
those whoops weren't even 4 feet deep!
Ryan_Huddleston 1/16/2013 2:41pm
1/16/2013 2:41pm
Sheriff245 wrote:
The problem is not the sport itself, but the people it attracts. In this case, both pretty much gather to the same crowd. I'm talking about...
The problem is not the sport itself, but the people it attracts. In this case, both pretty much gather to the same crowd. I'm talking about the kind that hangs out in sand pits drinking beer between drag races and such. There are definitely more of those with quads than bikes, and those with bikes are more of the FMX kind.
brian.perteete wrote:
yeah! I hate them guys...showin up in overalls and hiking boots lol. wearin retro 80's helmets w/ hankerchief mouth guards. drinkin PBR at the track lol...
yeah! I hate them guys...showin up in overalls and hiking boots lol. wearin retro 80's helmets w/ hankerchief mouth guards. drinkin PBR at the track lol


c'mon man...can't we all just ride along?
NO WE CANNOT

do not come to a track when there are bikes or we will never get along

And a majority of your patrons are the lowest of the low
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Hut 1/16/2013 2:54pm
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bogdan912 wrote:
I was looking for those 4ft braking jumps. All I saw was Dungey on the sidelines taking tips on speed.

https://youtu.be/oFtJ4r6IZws

http://youtu.be/oFtJ4r6IZws
I think he meant 4 inch braking bumps and I am feeling very generous so I will call it 4 1/2 inch bumps in that video. The whoops weren't even that deep. The implication that these things are faster than bikes leaves me wondering if getting jerked around by lawn equipment all day might lead to brain damage. Laughing
brian.perteete 1/16/2013 2:54pm
1/16/2013 2:54pm
Sheriff245 wrote:
The problem is not the sport itself, but the people it attracts. In this case, both pretty much gather to the same crowd. I'm talking about...
The problem is not the sport itself, but the people it attracts. In this case, both pretty much gather to the same crowd. I'm talking about the kind that hangs out in sand pits drinking beer between drag races and such. There are definitely more of those with quads than bikes, and those with bikes are more of the FMX kind.
brian.perteete wrote:
yeah! I hate them guys...showin up in overalls and hiking boots lol. wearin retro 80's helmets w/ hankerchief mouth guards. drinkin PBR at the track lol...
yeah! I hate them guys...showin up in overalls and hiking boots lol. wearin retro 80's helmets w/ hankerchief mouth guards. drinkin PBR at the track lol


c'mon man...can't we all just ride along?
Ryan_Huddleston wrote:
NO WE CANNOT do not come to a track when there are bikes or we will never get along And a majority of your patrons are...
NO WE CANNOT

do not come to a track when there are bikes or we will never get along

And a majority of your patrons are the lowest of the low
lol, my patrons are your patrons. we race the same tracks, buy parts from the same mfgs and distributors, wear the same gear and helmets. shits silly to me really.

any "quad only" drinking fountains around here? I'm thirsty lol
FlickitFlat 1/16/2013 3:12pm
1/16/2013 3:12pm
I was young once, and when I was, I thought I might want a quad. Concerned, my Dad explained a few things to me. That was the day I realized I'm heterosexual.
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peelout 1/16/2013 3:38pm
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bogdan912 wrote:
I was looking for those 4ft braking jumps. All I saw was Dungey on the sidelines taking tips on speed.

https://youtu.be/oFtJ4r6IZws

http://youtu.be/oFtJ4r6IZws
Hut wrote:
I think he meant 4 inch braking bumps and I am feeling very generous so I will call it 4 1/2 inch bumps in that video...
I think he meant 4 inch braking bumps and I am feeling very generous so I will call it 4 1/2 inch bumps in that video. The whoops weren't even that deep. The implication that these things are faster than bikes leaves me wondering if getting jerked around by lawn equipment all day might lead to brain damage. Laughing
the track worker on the Grizzly is watching these guys thinking, "soon as i skull this PBR, i'm gonna go show these terrorists how it's done!"

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bartoner 1/16/2013 3:43pm
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what i hate most about quads is when you are out in the desert...and the closest camp to you had 1 banshee, but like 15 people camping there...and they all take turns ripping sick donuts right next to camp....all day....over and over.....you don't see many groups of people showing up to the desert with 1 mx bike....jussayin.
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hammertime 1/16/2013 3:45pm
1/16/2013 3:45pm
it's all fun and better than being at work. what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
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wydopen 1/16/2013 3:59pm
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i have never seen a quad at any of our local tracks..not sure if nobody rides them or they are not allowed?..i have to say i watch the atv gncc series and those guys fly offroad...

fmx is worse to me... especially the guys that can barley negotiate the berm leading up to the ramp but they can backflip haha

i have a couple threewheelers (70 and 110) for roosting the driveway so maybe im impartial..
J.Saunders144 1/16/2013 4:01pm
1/16/2013 4:01pm
Using ATV a total of 5 times in the lifetime of your account here should block your account automatically. ATV MX is so much worse than FMX. They ruin tracks, usually have mullets, and roll around the track. Yeah yeah yeah not every quad rider rolls every jump, well I got new for yeah, not every chicken lays an egg, just 99.9% of them.
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SEE ARE125 1/16/2013 4:03pm
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Quads? Dirt bikes? Did someone say FREESTYLE?!
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yz414 1/16/2013 4:11pm
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mx_563 wrote:
FMXers have their ramps and free ride spots so we don't have to cross paths with them. ATV riders on the other hand want to be...
FMXers have their ramps and free ride spots so we don't have to cross paths with them.

ATV riders on the other hand want to be cut loose on MX tracks where they destroy the ruts and berms. Ergo, ATVs are WAY worse.

Trying to convince the 2-wheeled crowd how fast you are on an ATV or how difficult it is to ride one, or how physically demanding it is just fuels the anti-atv sentiment. It's totally futile.

And for the record, I don't hate ATVers but I do hate what they do to MX tracks.
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yz414 1/16/2013 4:15pm
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This whole argument sound like the snowboard/ski kerfuffle
J.Saunders144 1/16/2013 4:25pm
1/16/2013 4:25pm
yz414 wrote:
This whole argument sound like the snowboard/ski kerfuffle
Skiing is about .5 above Quad's on the gaydar
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Hut 1/16/2013 4:37pm
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J.Saunders144 wrote:
Using ATV a total of 5 times in the lifetime of your account here should block your account automatically. ATV MX is so much worse than...
Using ATV a total of 5 times in the lifetime of your account here should block your account automatically. ATV MX is so much worse than FMX. They ruin tracks, usually have mullets, and roll around the track. Yeah yeah yeah not every quad rider rolls every jump, well I got new for yeah, not every chicken lays an egg, just 99.9% of them.
Why ya gotta bring mullets into this?
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Lone Wolf 1/16/2013 5:58pm
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I remember reading a Tyla Rattray interview shortly after he moved to the states. He said that when practicing at Glen Helen, some of the quads were only 4 seconds a lap slower than him.

It is true that quads can destroy the two wheeler lines and are a hazard to the bikes if on the track at the same time. However, they usually have their own, separate events down here these days, so I don't really have any issues with them. It pisses me off when I catch some obnoxious, quad riding, asshole on the trails who is taking up the whole track and won't let me by, though.

I think most freestylers are douche bags, but they don't do me any harm. I can't say I have any problem with them either.

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