Friese on a new team. A step down or lateral move?

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DrSweden 12/19/2012 1:55pm
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If he gets paid, right or wrong, those paying gets more out of it. No charity in this biz. Who's to blame? Some people are obviously believing in him, they might be on something, or they have been wrong for half a decade?

If half said of this guy was true, karma would have taken it's toll by now. He most likely have issues, there's way to much smoke, but maybe we have to cut away some of the polarity on both sides to find the truth?
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Watch out! TerryK might ban you with his devine power for bad mouthing VF.
Nah, I took care of that for him.
Brad Nemeth 12/19/2012 3:13pm
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You guys have never heard of paying for a ride? The worst part of Motorsports in my opinion. How do you think Paul Menard ended up in Sprint Cup? His family own Menard's and puts out millions for him to play with the big boys...
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TeamGreen 12/19/2012 3:17pm
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Huh?

$150K...?

Oh, well.

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TeamGreen 12/19/2012 3:18pm
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Brad Nemeth wrote:
You guys have never heard of paying for a ride? The worst part of Motorsports in my opinion. How do you think Paul Menard ended up...
You guys have never heard of paying for a ride? The worst part of Motorsports in my opinion. How do you think Paul Menard ended up in Sprint Cup? His family own Menard's and puts out millions for him to play with the big boys...
Uh, yeah...he DID get in by Bringing a Sponsor with him; however, it's the OTHER WAY around, now.
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Brad Nemeth wrote:
You guys have never heard of paying for a ride? The worst part of Motorsports in my opinion. How do you think Paul Menard ended up...
You guys have never heard of paying for a ride? The worst part of Motorsports in my opinion. How do you think Paul Menard ended up in Sprint Cup? His family own Menard's and puts out millions for him to play with the big boys...
It's very big in other forms of motorsports too.
Brad Nemeth 12/19/2012 4:01pm
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You guys have never heard of paying for a ride? The worst part of Motorsports in my opinion. How do you think Paul Menard ended up...
You guys have never heard of paying for a ride? The worst part of Motorsports in my opinion. How do you think Paul Menard ended up in Sprint Cup? His family own Menard's and puts out millions for him to play with the big boys...
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Uh, yeah...he DID get in by Bringing a Sponsor with him; however, it's the OTHER WAY around, now.
Menard's a reference most people have heard of I think. And I guess you can call that bringing a sponsor with you.

And just to clarify I'm not saying this is the case with Vince. I have no idea what his personal situation is.
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Sandberm 12/19/2012 4:45pm
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So on one end of the spectrum we have Cristophe Pourcel who wont ride without a significant paycheck because of the risks of getting hurt.

And then over here..... we have Vince and apparently others PAYING what I think is a lot of money to have the opportunity to injure themselves seriously.

Nice
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mx5471 12/19/2012 5:37pm
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Jlaw is history. Friese wiil be shortly. There may be faster people out there, but only the guys with the top sponsorship will ever have a chance to make it. The privateers in this sport are wasting their time, and money.
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Choppy 12/19/2012 5:41pm
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mx5471 wrote:
Jlaw is history. Friese wiil be shortly. There may be faster people out there, but only the guys with the top sponsorship will ever have a...
Jlaw is history. Friese wiil be shortly. There may be faster people out there, but only the guys with the top sponsorship will ever have a chance to make it. The privateers in this sport are wasting their time, and money.
Tell that to Durham...Or any other pro that's worked their way to a good ride.
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jeffro503 12/19/2012 6:16pm
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mx5471 wrote:
Jlaw is history. Friese wiil be shortly. There may be faster people out there, but only the guys with the top sponsorship will ever have a...
Jlaw is history. Friese wiil be shortly. There may be faster people out there, but only the guys with the top sponsorship will ever have a chance to make it. The privateers in this sport are wasting their time, and money.
Maybe you're right......but our "top guys" had to start some where right? Very few fast AM's just step right into the pro's and dominate.

Besides....look at KW. Never won a big bike championship....but he's paid a bunch of money and they let him race what he wants. There are other ways to becomes a legend in this sport besides just winning everything. KW is a perfect example of that. Another reason why Nyk Wey keeps getting rides.....really marketable , he makes descent money.....because people love the guy.

Being a privateer aint so bad for some. Not that KW is.....but you get my point.
goonslurkin316 12/19/2012 7:10pm
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Not really sure on Friese' situation, but this is fairly common in the sport, people paying for rides that is. I think stuff like this needs to be out in public more, to give fans more of a reality. Somewhat shows the shape the sport is in. That's a ton of money for anyone to pay, especially if it's supposedly someones "career".
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friday10 12/19/2012 8:00pm
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Tbteam wrote:
It's definitely a step down.



For the new team, that is.
Haha, beat me to it!
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friday10 12/19/2012 8:02pm
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DL wrote:
Friese's agent has been offering $150,000 and there were no takers till now. An icon like Marty Smith ought to know better IMHO.
So VF is a pay to ride trust fund baby? Sounds about right!
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MX MANAGER 12/22/2012 12:37pm
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Friese's agent has been offering $150,000 and there were no takers till now. An icon like Marty Smith ought to know better IMHO.
[b]As Vince's agent I can tell you this is Incorrect. vince has three wonderful offers this year and accepted a wonderful offer and is very grateful to those professionals involved. Mr Lieb take my 25 years of industry advice. Focus on the brilliance of your son and your great product. You do not have to blow out another's candlelight in order to shine yourself. You will find greatness in belief but you will find nothing but sadness in attack. Live love and laugh and enjoy the ride. Concentrate on what you want and not what you don't . Only then will you receive. May god bless you and your family and help you see the right path. I do not wish you harm but I have to tell you statements like this are slander and ask you desist in such behaviour towards Vince otherwise I will have to legally enforce you comply which is not what I would prefer happened take this with Love and understanding. .
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mtl 12/22/2012 12:47pm
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MX MANAGER wrote:
[b]As Vince's agent I can tell you this is Incorrect. vince has three wonderful offers this year and accepted a wonderful offer and is very grateful...
[b]As Vince's agent I can tell you this is Incorrect. vince has three wonderful offers this year and accepted a wonderful offer and is very grateful to those professionals involved. Mr Lieb take my 25 years of industry advice. Focus on the brilliance of your son and your great product. You do not have to blow out another's candlelight in order to shine yourself. You will find greatness in belief but you will find nothing but sadness in attack. Live love and laugh and enjoy the ride. Concentrate on what you want and not what you don't . Only then will you receive. May god bless you and your family and help you see the right path. I do not wish you harm but I have to tell you statements like this are slander and ask you desist in such behaviour towards Vince otherwise I will have to legally enforce you comply which is not what I would prefer happened take this with Love and understanding. .
So you are confirming that Vince Friese did not have to bring any money or other sponsors to the table to secure employment with Slaton Racing?
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pitbike502 wrote:
so you didnt think jlaw should have gotten banned for all the crap he started with RV? or the ear biting thing? or when he flipped...
so you didnt think jlaw should have gotten banned for all the crap he started with RV? or the ear biting thing? or when he flipped his car at the track? or when he got in a fight the night before red bud (or millville, whatever) and was thrown in the pokey? all that meant he had heart because he was fast on a bike?
Nope I don't.
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kongols 12/22/2012 1:36pm
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If he gets paid, right or wrong, those paying gets more out of it. No charity in this biz. Who's to blame? Some people are obviously...
If he gets paid, right or wrong, those paying gets more out of it. No charity in this biz. Who's to blame? Some people are obviously believing in him, they might be on something, or they have been wrong for half a decade?

If half said of this guy was true, karma would have taken it's toll by now. He most likely have issues, there's way to much smoke, but maybe we have to cut away some of the polarity on both sides to find the truth?
I`m not sure but I remember reading he`s from a wealthy family and can afford to pay to race.(It`s about those 150 grand)

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MX MANAGER 12/22/2012 2:22pm
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MX MANAGER wrote:
[b]As Vince's agent I can tell you this is Incorrect. vince has three wonderful offers this year and accepted a wonderful offer and is very grateful...
[b]As Vince's agent I can tell you this is Incorrect. vince has three wonderful offers this year and accepted a wonderful offer and is very grateful to those professionals involved. Mr Lieb take my 25 years of industry advice. Focus on the brilliance of your son and your great product. You do not have to blow out another's candlelight in order to shine yourself. You will find greatness in belief but you will find nothing but sadness in attack. Live love and laugh and enjoy the ride. Concentrate on what you want and not what you don't . Only then will you receive. May god bless you and your family and help you see the right path. I do not wish you harm but I have to tell you statements like this are slander and ask you desist in such behaviour towards Vince otherwise I will have to legally enforce you comply which is not what I would prefer happened take this with Love and understanding. .
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So you are confirming that Vince Friese did not have to bring any money or other sponsors to the table to secure employment with Slaton Racing?
Yes I confirm no money has ever been paid to get Vince a ride. Not ever ! Quite the reverse. I will not tolerate any further abuse and total distortion of the truth via message boards from ill informed members of Moto web sites that have no information only guess work. Now is the time to focus on positive outcomes for all concerned. Anyone posting libellous remarks or personal abuse on my client will have to face the consequences. Publishing laws exist for all who take it on themselves to make slanderous remarks lewd comments without written backup information. I intend to use the law to ensure this is applied. To both web sites and individuals who post such remarks. I wish no harm to anyone but refuse to allow this continuous attacking pursuit on my client. Any person or website that publishes defamatory remarks or statements will face legal charges that carry a jail term. focus on positive events and that is what you shall receive.
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three9zero 12/22/2012 2:27pm
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MX MANAGER wrote:
[b]As Vince's agent I can tell you this is Incorrect. vince has three wonderful offers this year and accepted a wonderful offer and is very grateful...
[b]As Vince's agent I can tell you this is Incorrect. vince has three wonderful offers this year and accepted a wonderful offer and is very grateful to those professionals involved. Mr Lieb take my 25 years of industry advice. Focus on the brilliance of your son and your great product. You do not have to blow out another's candlelight in order to shine yourself. You will find greatness in belief but you will find nothing but sadness in attack. Live love and laugh and enjoy the ride. Concentrate on what you want and not what you don't . Only then will you receive. May god bless you and your family and help you see the right path. I do not wish you harm but I have to tell you statements like this are slander and ask you desist in such behaviour towards Vince otherwise I will have to legally enforce you comply which is not what I would prefer happened take this with Love and understanding. .
mtl wrote:
So you are confirming that Vince Friese did not have to bring any money or other sponsors to the table to secure employment with Slaton Racing?
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Yes I confirm no money has ever been paid to get Vince a ride. Not ever ! Quite the reverse. I will not tolerate any further...
Yes I confirm no money has ever been paid to get Vince a ride. Not ever ! Quite the reverse. I will not tolerate any further abuse and total distortion of the truth via message boards from ill informed members of Moto web sites that have no information only guess work. Now is the time to focus on positive outcomes for all concerned. Anyone posting libellous remarks or personal abuse on my client will have to face the consequences. Publishing laws exist for all who take it on themselves to make slanderous remarks lewd comments without written backup information. I intend to use the law to ensure this is applied. To both web sites and individuals who post such remarks. I wish no harm to anyone but refuse to allow this continuous attacking pursuit on my client. Any person or website that publishes defamatory remarks or statements will face legal charges that carry a jail term. focus on positive events and that is what you shall receive.
I'm gonna have to watch this thread, I predict an 18 pager....
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mom241 12/22/2012 2:37pm
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Wow. Because no one ever says something untrue about a rider on Vital.

You're kind of not helping his cause. Just my .02 cents. Please don't sue me.
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mtl 12/22/2012 2:44pm
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Funny how the same guy represents Alessi & Friese, they both have a lot in common.

I agree with the lady from Shawnee, you're just making it worse for a guy who is a dirty dirty rider and blatantly tries to hurt people out on the track.

Please please sue me, let me know if you need my contact info!
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MX MANAGER 12/22/2012 2:57pm
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mom241 wrote:
Wow. Because no one ever says something untrue about a rider on Vital. You're kind of not helping his cause. Just my .02 cents. Please don't...
Wow. Because no one ever says something untrue about a rider on Vital.

You're kind of not helping his cause. Just my .02 cents. Please don't sue me.
As a mom I would expect you to understand public flogging of your son without proof unacceptable. Take time to think about that and just for your information we are not talking just a wrong comment. We are talking physical abuse verbal abuse and defamatory remarks on a grand scale. Enough is enough. As a mom you should support this and I do not need to help his case just ensure people only comment on written fact not fiction. There will be no more posts on this subject. All posts will be monitored in future. It is time that people think about what they write and wear the shoes of the recipient. If it feels bad to receive do not write it. People die from reading abuse on the net tormented from relentless written abuse. Do you want to be a part of cyber bullying? If so face the law. If not post positive remarks. We all have choices. Which one are you going to make?
Lawrence929 12/22/2012 3:05pm
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mom241 wrote:
Wow. Because no one ever says something untrue about a rider on Vital. You're kind of not helping his cause. Just my .02 cents. Please don't...
Wow. Because no one ever says something untrue about a rider on Vital.

You're kind of not helping his cause. Just my .02 cents. Please don't sue me.
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As a mom I would expect you to understand public flogging of your son without proof unacceptable. Take time to think about that and just for...
As a mom I would expect you to understand public flogging of your son without proof unacceptable. Take time to think about that and just for your information we are not talking just a wrong comment. We are talking physical abuse verbal abuse and defamatory remarks on a grand scale. Enough is enough. As a mom you should support this and I do not need to help his case just ensure people only comment on written fact not fiction. There will be no more posts on this subject. All posts will be monitored in future. It is time that people think about what they write and wear the shoes of the recipient. If it feels bad to receive do not write it. People die from reading abuse on the net tormented from relentless written abuse. Do you want to be a part of cyber bullying? If so face the law. If not post positive remarks. We all have choices. Which one are you going to make?
Aren't you focusing on the negative by reading this over and over and checking it for more slander?

Go enjoy your life! Be joyous and positive. Focus on Vince's good side and how well you think he'll do this year.

Not this board.
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dirtydaveCO 12/22/2012 3:10pm
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What part of Friese ramming, wrecking, and hurting other riders is not true? He gets the same respect he gives........NONE.
As a fan I do not want his punk ass anywhere close to the track. There is more than a few riders that feel the same.

If a team wanted him he is probably paying for the ride.........I doubt it is from his results and his great on track record.
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I will forgive your mistake. Members posts to your posts are sent to your cell phone. I am only ensuring everyone is aware of the situation. Giving them the time of day to help understanding of their actions and giving notice of intended actions. Thank you for your kind words wishing you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year full of positivity.
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Regis 12/22/2012 3:12pm
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mom241 wrote:
Wow. Because no one ever says something untrue about a rider on Vital. You're kind of not helping his cause. Just my .02 cents. Please don't...
Wow. Because no one ever says something untrue about a rider on Vital.

You're kind of not helping his cause. Just my .02 cents. Please don't sue me.
MX MANAGER wrote:
As a mom I would expect you to understand public flogging of your son without proof unacceptable. Take time to think about that and just for...
As a mom I would expect you to understand public flogging of your son without proof unacceptable. Take time to think about that and just for your information we are not talking just a wrong comment. We are talking physical abuse verbal abuse and defamatory remarks on a grand scale. Enough is enough. As a mom you should support this and I do not need to help his case just ensure people only comment on written fact not fiction. There will be no more posts on this subject. All posts will be monitored in future. It is time that people think about what they write and wear the shoes of the recipient. If it feels bad to receive do not write it. People die from reading abuse on the net tormented from relentless written abuse. Do you want to be a part of cyber bullying? If so face the law. If not post positive remarks. We all have choices. Which one are you going to make?
Are you really here in a threatening "all posts will be monitored in the future" "cyber bullying". cyber bullying is a far cry from the actual bullying your client tries to pull on the track. The list is endless of actual people he's tried to physically hurt.


Tell your client to ride looking forward and to quite torpedo'ing people on the track. Earn fans on the track with sportsmanship and good racing, not cheap shots while going backwards. We all know half the crap spewn on here is opinion and not true, you aren't doing Vince any favors here. I, for one, wish his ride went to someone who was actually respected on the track.

Just my bench racer opinion.
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bangmyhead 12/22/2012 3:18pm
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MX MANAGER wrote:
As a mom I would expect you to understand public flogging of your son without proof unacceptable. Take time to think about that and just for...
As a mom I would expect you to understand public flogging of your son without proof unacceptable. Take time to think about that and just for your information we are not talking just a wrong comment. We are talking physical abuse verbal abuse and defamatory remarks on a grand scale. Enough is enough. As a mom you should support this and I do not need to help his case just ensure people only comment on written fact not fiction. There will be no more posts on this subject. All posts will be monitored in future. It is time that people think about what they write and wear the shoes of the recipient. If it feels bad to receive do not write it. People die from reading abuse on the net tormented from relentless written abuse. Do you want to be a part of cyber bullying? If so face the law. If not post positive remarks. We all have choices. Which one are you going to make?
Rofl


You're* a fool
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DrSweden 12/22/2012 3:19pm
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I get a bad taste when people threat with law suits, but I totally support it when the victims are bullied regular innocent teenagers that cant stand for them self. This is the case?
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mom241 12/22/2012 4:26pm
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I usually don't have a problem correcting people who post misinformation as a fact. You can ask a lot of people on here. Opinion,
I TRY to keep out of it

My issue is threatening to sue people over what is said on a forum. Maybe the better path would have been to address the issue with someone privately.

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