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11/28/2012 3:45pm
Riding so. cal. a lot, and I mean almost everyday I am at one of the tracks down there. The last year has seen a rise in women riding. Which is great to see, even if most of them are actually slow. But, comparison speed is different. Their are only a few who reach some sort of real speed. It is fun to see these girls out there, trying to do what most (fe) wont. I wish it had a place to go right now, but with this economy, alot of us are just (barely) getting by. I hope the girls keep showing up, supporting the sport because they like it, and hope someday they get their own thing going, separate of the boys.
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11/28/2012 3:53pm
Ok Einstien, I never said 95 % of the fans come to watch women. But maybe someone is not trying to market the women the right way to also bring in the money. And yes I am crazy and everyone I know will tell you that but your so smart you got it right off the bat. If you can't see where this sport or I guess I should say business is going, start looking around and see where all the other sports or businesses are going. Because the people at the top want all the money its now costing them the people who paid their bills. Yep you and me. Well at least me. From MX Nationals to Supercross to Baseball to Basketball to Football they are all down because it cost more than the pleasure of being there live is worth. Just watch it from home. What they want is just big TV contracts and sponsers to pay the bills and they would not care if anyone came. And taking the best talent has not sold more tickets this year because its Motocross not Nascar. Do you even ride a motorcycle or are you just a finger jockey. From what I have been told by people up north was that you don't ride. You just like hanging on. Thats ok sport hang on.
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11/28/2012 3:54pm
Oh brother...
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11/28/2012 4:03pm
This isn't going to end well.......Blink

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11/28/2012 4:17pm Edited Date/Time 11/28/2012 4:19pm
Mr. Info wrote:
Ok Einstien, I never said 95 % of the fans come to watch women. But maybe someone is not trying to market the women the right...
Ok Einstien, I never said 95 % of the fans come to watch women. But maybe someone is not trying to market the women the right way to also bring in the money. And yes I am crazy and everyone I know will tell you that but your so smart you got it right off the bat. If you can't see where this sport or I guess I should say business is going, start looking around and see where all the other sports or businesses are going. Because the people at the top want all the money its now costing them the people who paid their bills. Yep you and me. Well at least me. From MX Nationals to Supercross to Baseball to Basketball to Football they are all down because it cost more than the pleasure of being there live is worth. Just watch it from home. What they want is just big TV contracts and sponsers to pay the bills and they would not care if anyone came. And taking the best talent has not sold more tickets this year because its Motocross not Nascar. Do you even ride a motorcycle or are you just a finger jockey. From what I have been told by people up north was that you don't ride. You just like hanging on. Thats ok sport hang on.
People "up north" have been talking to you about me? Right. You've got to be kidding. Take off your whirled-bird cap.

Explain to me how the 250 and 450 classes are not the foundation of this sport at the pro level that have to be taken care of first before anything else on race day. Explain to me whether Target is sponsoring Dungey because 20,000 (or 50,000) people see him at a track rather than because 100 times that number may see him on TV.

Do you grasp the connection between TV coverage and teams being able to solicit sponsors? Do you grasp that there is no pro racing without sponsors? What direction does the sport go at a professional level if those interests are flubbed?

Women's professional soccer, a far larger sport with much larger girls participation at the youth level, and a high level of competitive parity, has failed multiple times in the country. The same with women's basketball. It doesn't mean that they are not fantastic athletes; it means there are not enough people interested to justify the opportunity cost with even the best promotion. The WMX women are terrific athletes for the most part, but they are in an even worse position because, unfortunately, there's two or, at best, three riders who actually compete, and the disparity of skill is painfully exposed when they are stood against the pros at a national.

If you have issue with how the nationals spread the money around and that the tracks are shorted in that, you'd be better off taking that up directly instead on trying to use any issue to broadside Davey with every issue someone complains to him about regardless of whether it has any rational relationship to what has put a bug up your butt. Or at least explain how WMX is directly related to tracks not making money.

Is your TV beef that attendance is down at nationals because local fans are staying home to watch instead? Or that they are (or will be) staying home because WMX won't be at the nationals? Got any facts for that?
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11/28/2012 4:21pm
Mr. Info wrote:
FTE your right, you sure your not Davey Coombs under a different name. If not then Great Minds think alike. If your not Davey you must...
FTE your right, you sure your not Davey Coombs under a different name. If not then Great Minds think alike. If your not Davey you must be real important. And FTE its not about making money anymore because ask each track the simple question who made money last year. If your Davey and using a different name you know who. Ask Hangtown, ask Colorado, ask Texas, ask Elsinore, ask them all. Wait there I go lying again I have this bad habit. Every track made their money back and more. Jim was right on the money when he discribed you. Are you sure your not a goverment offical. You can't wait for the Bullet Train and voted for higher taxes. You have no heart for the sport anymore. Women kicked out or what next kick out the kids from racing also, and maybe the Vets because they need to grow up and be adults. Its only a sport and everyone has the right to play until someone takes their ball and goes home so know one can.
Look, simpleton, I'm not Davey. The tracks attract nobody unless the series is run in such a way that the best talent ~ not WMX, the...
Look, simpleton, I'm not Davey. The tracks attract nobody unless the series is run in such a way that the best talent ~ not WMX, the best talent ~ can take the sport to sponsors and sell them a program that will fund their racing. If that doesn't happen, the tracks have nothing on pro race day.

You're entitled to think that WMX is why 95% of the fans come to a pro race, and that cutting it will take away your gate in a big way. I think you're wrong. But your "is that you Davey posting under a different name" nonsense doesn't just make you wrong, it makes you a kook as well.
This obsession with DC is nearing the restraining order stage. My personal favorite was starting a thread calling out DC because he didn't say hi to him when they were in the same room. And now he is openly accusing other people on a message board of being DC hiding behind a 2nd name.

Mr. Info, you are holding on too tight. Time to realize Glen Helen doesn't rule the motocross world and no one really gives a damn if you work there or not.
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11/28/2012 4:22pm
Mr. Info wrote:
Ok Einstien, I never said 95 % of the fans come to watch women. But maybe someone is not trying to market the women the right...
Ok Einstien, I never said 95 % of the fans come to watch women. But maybe someone is not trying to market the women the right way to also bring in the money. And yes I am crazy and everyone I know will tell you that but your so smart you got it right off the bat. If you can't see where this sport or I guess I should say business is going, start looking around and see where all the other sports or businesses are going. Because the people at the top want all the money its now costing them the people who paid their bills. Yep you and me. Well at least me. From MX Nationals to Supercross to Baseball to Basketball to Football they are all down because it cost more than the pleasure of being there live is worth. Just watch it from home. What they want is just big TV contracts and sponsers to pay the bills and they would not care if anyone came. And taking the best talent has not sold more tickets this year because its Motocross not Nascar. Do you even ride a motorcycle or are you just a finger jockey. From what I have been told by people up north was that you don't ride. You just like hanging on. Thats ok sport hang on.
Davy should do this, Davy should do that.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

What the hell are you doing?

Aren't you the guy from GH?

Why aren't you and the doc that owns that place starting a series?

Why does everyone feel they have all the answers, and do nothing but give advice?

Shit, get off the pot, or shut the fuck up.

freakin jerks.
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11/28/2012 4:30pm
Switch wrote:
This obsession with DC is nearing the restraining order stage. My personal favorite was starting a thread calling out DC because he didn't say hi to...
This obsession with DC is nearing the restraining order stage. My personal favorite was starting a thread calling out DC because he didn't say hi to him when they were in the same room. And now he is openly accusing other people on a message board of being DC hiding behind a 2nd name.

Mr. Info, you are holding on too tight. Time to realize Glen Helen doesn't rule the motocross world and no one really gives a damn if you work there or not.
Davey, is that you?

(had to beat mr. info to it so I could earn my beanie hat)
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motogrady wrote:
Davy should do this, Davy should do that. What the hell is wrong with you people? What the hell are you doing? Aren't you the guy...
Davy should do this, Davy should do that.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

What the hell are you doing?

Aren't you the guy from GH?

Why aren't you and the doc that owns that place starting a series?

Why does everyone feel they have all the answers, and do nothing but give advice?

Shit, get off the pot, or shut the fuck up.

freakin jerks.
Davey, is that you?

(had to beat mr. info to it so I could earn my beanie hat)
11/28/2012 4:33pm
motogrady wrote:
Davy should do this, Davy should do that. What the hell is wrong with you people? What the hell are you doing? Aren't you the guy...
Davy should do this, Davy should do that.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

What the hell are you doing?

Aren't you the guy from GH?

Why aren't you and the doc that owns that place starting a series?

Why does everyone feel they have all the answers, and do nothing but give advice?

Shit, get off the pot, or shut the fuck up.

freakin jerks.
JustMX wrote:
Davey, is that you?

(had to beat mr. info to it so I could earn my beanie hat)
Haha too funny! love it!
Mr. Info
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11/28/2012 4:55pm
You know whats the best part is that I can dance you around like a puppet. Because you have that spot where you can't control yourself and someone else can. You are all to easy. Really easy.
11/28/2012 4:58pm
Mr.Info

What is Glen Hlen doing to further WMX? Or women's racing in general?
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11/28/2012 5:00pm
Get the net.
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11/28/2012 5:02pm
Mr. Info wrote:
You know whats the best part is that I can dance you around like a puppet. Because you have that spot where you can't control yourself...
You know whats the best part is that I can dance you around like a puppet. Because you have that spot where you can't control yourself and someone else can. You are all to easy. Really easy.
This sounds like something someone says when they come to the realization that everyone is laughing at them, not with them. I say this with all due respect - your idiocy knows no bounds.

No, I am not DC.
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11/28/2012 5:07pm
Stanton876 they have done quite a lot over the years, but you don't see it posted over the internet because there is no need to. The girls know what has been done. And just like anyone else I have my opinions and will state them. If people don't like the fact that I bow to Davey thats their problem not mine. But like I said it is so easy to get control like a puppet master and lead some of the people around because it gets under their craw. I said that for the Southerners. Guys I have had only one issue and I stated it and Bud gave an interview about the same thing. If the tracks don't like me saying they are losing money having a National they can send me an email, One thing I do know is i go ride every weekend and enjoy my life and controling some of you. Have a great night and my friends up north enjoy the rain and be safe.
11/28/2012 5:10pm
Mr. Info wrote:
Stanton876 they have done quite a lot over the years, but you don't see it posted over the internet because there is no need to. The...
Stanton876 they have done quite a lot over the years, but you don't see it posted over the internet because there is no need to. The girls know what has been done. And just like anyone else I have my opinions and will state them. If people don't like the fact that I bow to Davey thats their problem not mine. But like I said it is so easy to get control like a puppet master and lead some of the people around because it gets under their craw. I said that for the Southerners. Guys I have had only one issue and I stated it and Bud gave an interview about the same thing. If the tracks don't like me saying they are losing money having a National they can send me an email, One thing I do know is i go ride every weekend and enjoy my life and controling some of you. Have a great night and my friends up north enjoy the rain and be safe.
So you have no examples?

Maybe they could get with DC and do a one off race to make the WMX 4 rounds if they're so inclined to make WMX grow.
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11/28/2012 5:11pm
You're not controlling anyone. You're just making a fool out yourself.
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11/28/2012 5:13pm Edited Date/Time 11/28/2012 5:15pm
You're not controlling anyone. You're just making a fool out yourself.
He knew you would say that, DC. He controls you.
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11/28/2012 5:15pm
You're not controlling anyone. You're just making a fool out yourself.
GrapeApe wrote:
He knew you would say that, DC. He controls you.
That's true, I wouldn't say he was making a fool of himself if he wasn't making a fool of himself.
11/28/2012 5:19pm
How early did Mr.info decide to hit the sauce?
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11/28/2012 5:19pm
Mr. Info, I am DC, and it's "you're" not "your," as in you're starting to scare me...

Actually, I'm kidding.

DC
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11/28/2012 5:23pm
motogrady wrote:
Davy should do this, Davy should do that. What the hell is wrong with you people? What the hell are you doing? Aren't you the guy...
Davy should do this, Davy should do that.

What the hell is wrong with you people?

What the hell are you doing?

Aren't you the guy from GH?

Why aren't you and the doc that owns that place starting a series?

Why does everyone feel they have all the answers, and do nothing but give advice?

Shit, get off the pot, or shut the fuck up.

freakin jerks.
Has Mr. Info made it clear yet if hes with GH or not?
11/28/2012 5:24pm
DC wrote:
Mr. Info, I am DC, and it's "you're" not "your," as in you're starting to scare me...

Actually, I'm kidding.

DC
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He's not DC. I Am.

And I'm watching you Mr.info!
11/28/2012 5:25pm
Has Mr. Info made it clear yet if hes with GH or not?
He's the announcer.
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11/28/2012 5:31pm
Thanks DC. As a PR major and an aspiring wordsmith, sometimes those grammar errors are all I see when reading posts. Proper grammar can go a long way with establishing credibility.

That said, this argument isn't going anywhere, but it's giving me some comic relief from homework on a Wednesday night. So thank you all involved parties.
11/28/2012 5:38pm
Stanton876 wrote:
He's the announcer.
ok sounds like everybodys bashing the 3 round wmx series. to me it sounds perfect for the situation. with the lack of money in the girls series, and not having a full gate at each round, sounds like to me now that more wmx riders will be able to afford to make the 3 rounds over the 8 rounds. more girls racing = a fuller gate and more racing on the track which will look better on tv and help the wmx grow.
I may be wrong, i have been before and i hope the wmx can grow because nobody loves the sport more than me but the 3 round series doesnt sound completely terrible.
11/28/2012 5:40pm
I rather watch the pee-wees than the wmx...good call DC!!!
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11/28/2012 5:47pm
Stanton876 wrote:
He's the announcer.
Dude's got me thinkin' he's Bud Feldkamp.Laughing
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11/28/2012 5:58pm
Mr. Info wrote:
FTE your right, you sure your not Davey Coombs under a different name. If not then Great Minds think alike. If your not Davey you must...
FTE your right, you sure your not Davey Coombs under a different name. If not then Great Minds think alike. If your not Davey you must be real important. And FTE its not about making money anymore because ask each track the simple question who made money last year. If your Davey and using a different name you know who. Ask Hangtown, ask Colorado, ask Texas, ask Elsinore, ask them all. Wait there I go lying again I have this bad habit. Every track made their money back and more. Jim was right on the money when he discribed you. Are you sure your not a goverment offical. You can't wait for the Bullet Train and voted for higher taxes. You have no heart for the sport anymore. Women kicked out or what next kick out the kids from racing also, and maybe the Vets because they need to grow up and be adults. Its only a sport and everyone has the right to play until someone takes their ball and goes home so know one can.
Tool,

Listen, the post that you created above might be the most ill conceived, off the mark, load of complete bullshit that has ever been posted at Vital. Can you grasp that? I mean, Danny Dolan posts here!

FTE is probably in the top three in terms of respect, knowledge and impartiality at this place. We all get it... you hate DC and anything that comes from MX Sports because they took away your sugar daddy's race. Fucking Wahhh.

Now move along. You are laughed at here. You're nothing but a tool. Not like the useful kind... say, some vice grips or a 10mm socket. You're the other kind of tool. You know... a "penis", a "dick". That kind of tool.
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11/28/2012 6:11pm
You're not controlling anyone. You're just making a fool out yourself.
FTE, what is that old saying about wrestling with the pigs and getting muddy? I hate to see you jump into it, but luckily Mr. Misinfo was so off the mark you stayed squeaky clean on this one....

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