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...if the powers that be don't do something to make it more affordable
Watch the end
https://youtu.be/XJmMnc9V0GM
On another note....how does the British Superbike series get so many spectators?? Brits are just more keen on road racing than Americans??
From wikipedia
8 millions viewers for a country of 62 million isnt too bad when you figure the ama superbike series probably has 1000 viewers and the US population is 314 million or so
https://youtu.be/2klLNQEnFTg
Watch the end
https://youtu.be/XJmMnc9V0GM
On another note....how does the British Superbike series get so many spectators?? Brits are just more keen on road racing than Americans??
From wikipedia
During 2009, 368,000 people attended BSB events across the country and 8,000,000 fans watched 310 hours of television on the live Eurosport and delayed ITV coverage
8 millions viewers for a country of 62 million isnt too bad when you figure the ama superbike series probably has 1000 viewers and the US population is 314 million or so
https://youtu.be/2klLNQEnFTg
Realistically, who wouldn't enjoy racing like this? Note that the commentary doesn't feel the need to "rev up" the audience, as it does in the U.S. But they still get silly excited in the second clip.
https://youtu.be/QSVr3bux1Q8
And this to decide the championship in 2011
https://youtu.be/28ynuDKNOq8
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rough and more gnarly the better.....
I live right in the middle of the UK , and i have had MX GP at Mallory Park, MX GP at Donington , MXoN at Donington , WSB at Donington , MotoGP at silverstone .. plus F1 , World touring cars and Le mans prototypes . all within 30 mins of where i live..
If you are keen , its not hard to do every round of BSB ,and be home sunday night.. only one one thats a rave is Knockill in Scotland which is 6 hours away .
The only difference between BSB and club racing is the speed... you dont travel further apart from the odd round , so riders step up.. its not like an east coast guy going to laguna seca and back and taking a week .. its all in lovely compact space.
What isnt obvious from that , is that most of the club race stuff is on its arse , tiny grids and nobody watching , which is not how it was even 5 years ago..
Watch the end
So what is the problem? Looks like a typical Saturday nite for me!.....oh, I see what you mean...
I don't think it will get that bad. The key thing is that that motox can be set up in a stadium while roadracing must be outdoors.
Monster truck racing is the most popular motorsport for children, yet virtually no one has their own monster truck. Again it is a stadium sport.
I remember watching the last race from Brands Hatch last year live on TV with my dad. It was absolutely amazing. I think the fact that the championship went down to the very last lap of the last race of the year and was decided by 0.006 of a second proves why BSB is so popular.
This is the championship deciding photo finish from last year. It's hard to believe that the whole championship was decided by such a small margin. It puts other racing to shame when people are winning championships with 2-3 rounds still to go.
Pit Row
BTW Zach told me at Matterley Basin Lommel makes Southwick look smooth.........man did he ever speak the truth!
and the posts after mine back up my opinion
i wont mention it as it will upset some people, but we did see a rough techincal race....and the us guys were open about how gnarly it was
There are GP tracks going the same way,I'm thankful that we still have Lierop,Lommel,Valkensvaard,Teutschenthal,Kegums,St Jean D'angely,that are more old school in ways that they're sand or get rough and/or rutted and there are others that have natural elevation but as I say,some of these other circuits are mixing in more and more of a SX element,I just hope it doesn't go too far
Team USA lost the MXoN on the roughest, sandiest track in the world, no way around that. But our system seemed to work pretty well for the last seven years before this. I am hoping our boys get back on top in Germany next year, where hopefully RV will be back on the team... We got third on a rotten day for our 450 champ. It happens. Hats off to the Germans and the Belgians for beating us, and Tony Cairoli for finally getting the monkey off his back and winning the MXoN outright for the first time.
By the way, RV and RD have only actually gotten to race on Team USA once together, and that was France in '11. Hopefully they will both be healthy in 2013, and '14, and '15...
DC
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1) I asked Zach Osbourne during the Matterley Basin GP press conference if he felt having raced in Europe was going to be an advantage when he returns to the states. I'm paraphrasing here but he basically said "Absolutely. The tracks in the states are pretty much the same but in Europe there is more of a mix."
My follow up question was "is it true you'll be based out of Ohio?" which was an inside joke we had going on that weekend between which state was better Ohio or PA.
Zach's answer was "absolutely not!"
2) Ask three people if they want more or less jumps and SX obstacles on outdoor tracks. Unless you're asking three people under 21 I guarantee you most people want to see more MX and less SX on outdoor tracks everywhere just not the National tracks.
If you doubt this I encourage everyone to start their own informal polling.
BTW I sincerely believe we are "jumping and whooping" ourselves into being even more of a niche sport than we already are. My interest/enthusiasm for a return to more MX tracks is 1000 percent based on wanting to see the sport keep growing. I also believe we have become WAY too complacent about the amount of injuries and are clueless about how many injuries come from jump sections.
now there is a spot on statement.
a hill without a jump in todays world is unheard of. an off camber? anyone under the age of 18 has barely a clue what this means.
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What will be the "normal" in 5-10 years? 150' gap jumps? faster straights? Bigger whoops? How many on this board have kids racing, and feel comfortable with 450's in C class or anything more "extreme" then we are at today?
Pretty easy to see. we now have 50cc kids jumping 100' tables on 12 inch tires. 50cc kids breaking femurs etc.
SO the question you ask what does "ama" motocross look like? My answer is what does "motocross" look like.
not sure if any of you have noticed, but the America we live in today is a very different place then it was 10-15 years ago and it really isn't getting better.
Like it or not..Romney was right..unemployment is higher now than it was when Obummer got re-elected. The only difference between 2008 and now is that its the new normal and the news outlets aren't reporting the slashes like they once were.
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