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jtomasik
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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 2:52pm
What are some of the avenues you find efficient in marketing your business? I'm just starting a business of my own. I have some ideas of how to work the sales opportunities, but since I'm a rookie, I figure I'd ask the old pros.
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7/23/2008 6:58pm
Depends on what kind of business. Retail Wholesale, Internet, Service.....the list goes on and on.
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7/23/2008 6:59pm
jtomasik wrote:
What are some of the avenues you find efficient in marketing your business? I'm just starting a business of my own. I have some ideas of...
What are some of the avenues you find efficient in marketing your business? I'm just starting a business of my own. I have some ideas of how to work the sales opportunities, but since I'm a rookie, I figure I'd ask the old pros.
That depends entirely on exactly who you will be needing to market your business towards. Big differences between retail and B2B.

You are starting a small business and supporting Obama? Interesting.
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I think the marketing that works best depends greatly on what the business is.

My business started out as a sign shop. In the sign business, the vast majority of your business comes from other businesses. And, over the years, I've found the yellow pages to be the only advertising investment that actually pays dividends. This is primarily because people don't even think about signs until they need one. And unless they already have used a sign shop that they are happy with, they just look in the phone book. However, if you do a good job with a sign customer, they will just come back the next time.

For the motocross graphics business, we have marketed primarily through meeting people face to face at the track and through advertising at tracks and through sponsorship programs.

If you are selling MLM stuff, I can't help you there. I think their marketing has to be deceptive in some way to get people suckered in.
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7/23/2008 7:05pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 7:45pm
I'd rather hear what you owners have found successful for your own business.

I already have a bunch of experience within the same business environment, but it's just that I've never tried my hand at my own business in it. So, I think that if I hear what you guys have found successful for yourself, I can envision how it would integrate in my business environment, and I can make my own decisions what would work and what wouldn't.

So, don't think of me...think of what unique things worked well for you.

Oh, Steve's got the idea. I typed this while he was posting. Good info, Steve.

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7/23/2008 7:14pm
jtomasik wrote:
I'd rather hear what you owners have found successful for your own business. I already have a bunch of experience within the same business environment, but...
I'd rather hear what you owners have found successful for your own business.

I already have a bunch of experience within the same business environment, but it's just that I've never tried my hand at my own business in it. So, I think that if I hear what you guys have found successful for yourself, I can envision how it would integrate in my business environment, and I can make my own decisions what would work and what wouldn't.

So, don't think of me...think of what unique things worked well for you.

Oh, Steve's got the idea. I typed this while he was posting. Good info, Steve.
Wow, that was like an Obama answer. I still don't have any idea what kind of business you want answers about, but I was thouroghly impressed with the amount of words used to not state any new information.

If you could pinpoint just a slight idea of the direction you are leaning to go, the business owners on this board could not waste their time typing about things that you decide are irrelevent.

There are books and books that can be written about self employed marketing....just asking you to narrow it down a little.
7/23/2008 7:54pm
My biz started out as a small subcontracting company and evolved into what it is today. When I first started out I cold called every contractor in the phone book and tried to set up an appointment so I could show them my info packet. I drove aroumd to every building site and dropped cards like crazy. I took every contractor I could to lunch or golf. I worked hard at meeting people and it paid off for me.

Make friends with everyone that you do biz with, let them talk about themselfs as much as they want and once they consider you a friend it will be hard not to do work with you. Relationships are the key to any biz.

My biz went into a different direction then when I first started because of oppertunitys I created through hard work and relationships.
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7/23/2008 7:58pm Edited Date/Time 7/23/2008 8:02pm
Looks like some get it. But, for those that don't, my business is full product development, with product part manufacture and/or assembly in Asia. The product range is extremely wide, as I've developed a wide range of products: energy sector, transportation, medical, consumer product, office products, etc.

The trouble with preconceived ideas of what I need, when these business owners have little to no experience in my operating environment, can prevent an extremely useful idea to present itself.
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jtom....get every book by Doug Hall and read them. "Jump Start Your Brain" is one of them.

all businesses need the same types of marketing. stand on a mountain and scream loud enough so everyone can hear. or some may call it beating the streets.

be able to state why your business is better/differant in one or 2 sentences.

krispy kremes model was that they have never wasted money on conventional marketing, they would give product away and get people hooked on their stuff.
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I've had my own business for 12 years and have never spent a nickel on advertising or marketing. Do a good job and the word gets out on it's own.
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super rat wrote:
I've had my own business for 12 years and have never spent a nickel on advertising or marketing. Do a good job and the word gets...
I've had my own business for 12 years and have never spent a nickel on advertising or marketing. Do a good job and the word gets out on it's own.
Bingo.

Also, it takes a lot of happy customers to give you a good name.

It only takes one unhappy customer to destroy years of what you have built up.

Good luck.
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7/23/2008 8:34pm
As teggers said, we'd need to know some concrete specifics of your products, prospective customers, etc, to offer any advice that would be worth taking. What works for a hamburger stand is useless for a specialized component manufacturer and vice-versa.
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7/24/2008 12:47am Edited Date/Time 7/24/2008 2:10am
volcati wrote:
Look for articles in here. There will be something relative to what you want to do. I copy and paste many articles on here and save...
Look for articles in here. There will be something relative to what you want to do. I copy and paste many articles on here and save to read or print out before I go to bed to read. STUDY STUDY.


http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/hbsp/hbr/index.jsp;jsessi…

He's 48 years old... he has already studied. He wants broad marketing ideas from this website. Come on man, give up the super secrets.
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volcati wrote:
Look for articles in here. There will be something relative to what you want to do. I copy and paste many articles on here and save...
Look for articles in here. There will be something relative to what you want to do. I copy and paste many articles on here and save to read or print out before I go to bed to read. STUDY STUDY.


http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/hbsp/hbr/index.jsp;jsessi…

teggers wrote:
He's 48 years old... he has already studied. He wants broad marketing ideas from this website. Come on man, give up the super secrets.
spam emails?
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jtomasik wrote:
Looks like some get it. But, for those that don't, my business is full product development, with product part manufacture and/or assembly in Asia. The product...
Looks like some get it. But, for those that don't, my business is full product development, with product part manufacture and/or assembly in Asia. The product range is extremely wide, as I've developed a wide range of products: energy sector, transportation, medical, consumer product, office products, etc.

The trouble with preconceived ideas of what I need, when these business owners have little to no experience in my operating environment, can prevent an extremely useful idea to present itself.
Thanks for doing your part in the "Made in China" revolution!
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Sign up that Darkmane dude.
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This always seems to work
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volcati wrote:
Look for articles in here. There will be something relative to what you want to do. I copy and paste many articles on here and save...
Look for articles in here. There will be something relative to what you want to do. I copy and paste many articles on here and save to read or print out before I go to bed to read. STUDY STUDY.


http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/hbsp/hbr/index.jsp;jsessi…

teggers wrote:
He's 48 years old... he has already studied. He wants broad marketing ideas from this website. Come on man, give up the super secrets.
KAWboy14 wrote:
spam emails?
Yep, those led me to enlarging my penis and online meds. Both have made my life better.
7/24/2008 8:23am
jtomasik wrote:
Looks like some get it. But, for those that don't, my business is full product development, with product part manufacture and/or assembly in Asia. The product...
Looks like some get it. But, for those that don't, my business is full product development, with product part manufacture and/or assembly in Asia. The product range is extremely wide, as I've developed a wide range of products: energy sector, transportation, medical, consumer product, office products, etc.

The trouble with preconceived ideas of what I need, when these business owners have little to no experience in my operating environment, can prevent an extremely useful idea to present itself.
Joe 788 wrote:
Thanks for doing your part in the "Made in China" revolution!
Don't hate the player.. Hate the game. I manufacture stuff overseas, not in China but not in the US either. Its not out of greed, or taking advantage of others, or screwing Americans out of jobs, the ease of doing so or even the will of wanting to do so. Its what the market depicts that you must do in order to move product. Just as you stand in the store and pick up two products and compare the prices on two similar products and almost always pick the cheaper one, we as a vendor have to be in line price wise with a compareable product in order to make the sell. How many times have you stood there and made the decisive option of choosing the cheaper priced product? Retailers, wholesalers and distributors do the same thing every day. So don't hate the player hate the game.
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thomas register might help in your case.
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Don't hate the player.. Hate the game. I manufacture stuff overseas, not in China but not in the US either. Its not out of greed, or...
Don't hate the player.. Hate the game. I manufacture stuff overseas, not in China but not in the US either. Its not out of greed, or taking advantage of others, or screwing Americans out of jobs, the ease of doing so or even the will of wanting to do so. Its what the market depicts that you must do in order to move product. Just as you stand in the store and pick up two products and compare the prices on two similar products and almost always pick the cheaper one, we as a vendor have to be in line price wise with a compareable product in order to make the sell. How many times have you stood there and made the decisive option of choosing the cheaper priced product? Retailers, wholesalers and distributors do the same thing every day. So don't hate the player hate the game.
I figured that manufacturing in West Virginia HAS to be cheaper than outside the U.S. Or do you choose overseas because the labor is cheap AND mastered reading, writing and arithmetic? Pinch
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jtomasik wrote:
Looks like some get it. But, for those that don't, my business is full product development, with product part manufacture and/or assembly in Asia. The product...
Looks like some get it. But, for those that don't, my business is full product development, with product part manufacture and/or assembly in Asia. The product range is extremely wide, as I've developed a wide range of products: energy sector, transportation, medical, consumer product, office products, etc.

The trouble with preconceived ideas of what I need, when these business owners have little to no experience in my operating environment, can prevent an extremely useful idea to present itself.
Joe 788 wrote:
Thanks for doing your part in the "Made in China" revolution!
Don't hate the player.. Hate the game. I manufacture stuff overseas, not in China but not in the US either. Its not out of greed, or...
Don't hate the player.. Hate the game. I manufacture stuff overseas, not in China but not in the US either. Its not out of greed, or taking advantage of others, or screwing Americans out of jobs, the ease of doing so or even the will of wanting to do so. Its what the market depicts that you must do in order to move product. Just as you stand in the store and pick up two products and compare the prices on two similar products and almost always pick the cheaper one, we as a vendor have to be in line price wise with a compareable product in order to make the sell. How many times have you stood there and made the decisive option of choosing the cheaper priced product? Retailers, wholesalers and distributors do the same thing every day. So don't hate the player hate the game.
You're certainly correct. Certain products these days just have to be manufactured overseas to even be feasible. But the premise of pointing to somebody else's behavior as a justification of your own is always flawed.

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With the weaken dollar america is very competitive in the manufacturing market. If you don't think so then look again.
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volcati wrote:
Look for articles in here. There will be something relative to what you want to do. I copy and paste many articles on here and save...
Look for articles in here. There will be something relative to what you want to do. I copy and paste many articles on here and save to read or print out before I go to bed to read. STUDY STUDY.


http://harvardbusinessonline.hbsp.harvard.edu/hbsp/hbr/index.jsp;jsessi…

teggers wrote:
He's 48 years old... he has already studied. He wants broad marketing ideas from this website. Come on man, give up the super secrets.
LOL.

ok...my best advice--Find people who believe in your business, get them to invest. If you truly believe in it--you can sell it with ease. Any doubts...you won't.

Always get other people (sheep) to take the risk on your pipe dream. It's the American way! Ask any broker.

Never let one person own more shares of the company than yourself. It can get ugly.
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Oh and if you ever become a billionaire and have stock fraud issues...call my wife's uncle Gordon Greenberg, he's .Henry Samueli lawyer for his stock fraud case..he's in LA and one of the best White Crime lawyers in the world. of course...this way down the road...but it is inevitable if you want to succeed.
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volcati wrote:
Oh and if you ever become a billionaire and have stock fraud issues...call my wife's uncle Gordon Greenberg, he's .Henry Samueli lawyer for his stock fraud...
Oh and if you ever become a billionaire and have stock fraud issues...call my wife's uncle Gordon Greenberg, he's .Henry Samueli lawyer for his stock fraud case..he's in LA and one of the best White Crime lawyers in the world. of course...this way down the road...but it is inevitable if you want to succeed.
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Phlapjax wrote:
With the weaken dollar america is very competitive in the manufacturing market. If you don't think so then look again.
In certain areas, yes. In many other areas, not even close.
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volcati wrote:
Oh and if you ever become a billionaire and have stock fraud issues...call my wife's uncle Gordon Greenberg, he's .Henry Samueli lawyer for his stock fraud...
Oh and if you ever become a billionaire and have stock fraud issues...call my wife's uncle Gordon Greenberg, he's .Henry Samueli lawyer for his stock fraud case..he's in LA and one of the best White Crime lawyers in the world. of course...this way down the road...but it is inevitable if you want to succeed.
KAWboy14 wrote:
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As teggers said, we'd need to know some concrete specifics of your products, prospective customers, etc, to offer any advice that would be worth taking. What...
As teggers said, we'd need to know some concrete specifics of your products, prospective customers, etc, to offer any advice that would be worth taking. What works for a hamburger stand is useless for a specialized component manufacturer and vice-versa.
agreed

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