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I think Kongols was looking for a more analyzed type answer,rather then trolling people to piss them off - or whatever.
The GP guys could use more diverse training on Supercross type tracks,I would assume...
I think we seen Team USA's weakness in a sense this weekend.
However, by looking at them still pulling off a third place,they were able to adapt & learn a lot in just 10 to 12 days over there.
Sand riding & Supercross are quite different and do indeed take a different style -but there are a couple similarities.
Sanding riding you keep the front of the bike light and squeeze the rear and sorta float (kinda like going through the whoops - but on the entire track) . On a supercross track you are all over the bike and use more technical diverse type techniques though. To me Supercross was always the hardest. Maybe because of the size of the jumps and rhythm you need to carry momentum - it can be quite intimidating and does take big balls. As to where sand ,you want to keep your momentum up and squeeze the rear of the bike and ride light and float - but at the same time go balls out.When your rear end get's out of shape you can drag the back break a little while staying the pipe. It's weird if you spend a lot of time riding deep sand ,it's one of those things. You always feel like you can go faster each time,into the corners a bit faster and get back on it sooner - til it bites you.Then you are back to backing it down lol. That was my experience with it anyway - or the only way I can explain it.
I haven't ridden any of the modern SX tracks - but in the 80's & early 90's I got to ride some of them,I was always very intimidated and couldn't get down a rhythm to save my life - if that makes any sense. I rode plenty of deep sand from when they dredged the Columbia river up in the Northwest years back.We had lots of practice tracks all set up along the river and would ride them the majority of the year - due to other places being far to muddy.Also along the coast up that way.
Maybe Team USA 2012 was an abreviation for "Useless Sandriding Americans!"
You are so brave rob, so brave.
It's a big deal when the Euros win. So much of a big deal that they gloat for a week after a victory. Act like you've been there before people, damn.
So, i absolutely believe Supercross has hindred our riders ability to adapt to a track so completly opposite of what they train and ride on 6 months of the year...
Lommel was a real MX track... And we had trouble..
Or are you saying that the last few years it wasn't on a 'real' mx track?
The reason we have had such success in the MXON is the tracks we've won on were either US tracks, or tracks similiar to what we ride here..
But lets face it.. Whats the flip side to spending the majority of the season on a SX track?? I actually could hardly tell the diffrence between some of our "outdoor" tracks this summer, they have all gotten real jumpy and generic lately.. And yes it hurt us last weekend..
Pit Row
It's really weird ,as I said before you always feel like you can go faster til it bites you.
It's sorta hard to explain. Maybe DV or someone can chime in with their theories.
And sure I would agree that Lommel is an extreme version of real MX to a certain degree,of a natural type track & soil and the roughness of it. Rather then groomed and mostly man made stuff.
SO I get what he was saying. The bikes make the lines and they are forever changing in a sense.
Sand gets whooped out all on it's own and just gets bigger & deeper as more bikes tear into it.
I could go on ,but I'm sure you get the concept.
It's just spending time riding it and learning it.
One of the reasons we went over there so early - I think The Man knew what was up.
I think they did good with the time that they had to prepare.
But we will never know.
FYI, i do think the best riders are in the States, but we gotta be carefull with our generic jump, turn, jump SX style tracks...
Perhaps certain Euro riders are better MX riders at the moment, where we obviously dominate the SX world..
Its a trade off..
Stay on the balls of your feet
The 500 support class was wheeling up the Unadilla Screw U 31 years ago.
less banners....more grass
And an amazing amount of outdoor talent from oversees.
the amount of disrespect shown towards the US riders, and especially Barcia, is fucking ridiculous (euro fans and 'merican fans alike)
How about 175 on that Yami?, Comfortably standing, head over the bars, maybe not much has changed afterall..
Used to ride the dunes quite a bit along the Oregon coast (more beach sand - then Northern Desert).
There isn't a whole lot of difference though.
So you understand what I'm saying.
On a side note - I always wanted to fly in & ride the Kobuk Valley dunes way up in remote Alaska.
(But Fed law doesn't allow it anymore).
But it looks like a lot of fun & untouched land. A lot people don't know Alaska has dunes.
Maybe we need a National up there and a Fed ORV park to support it lol.
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