Irvine vs Lake Elsinore, Corona, Moreno Valley, Riverside

Edited Date/Time 9/17/2012 10:59am
250A & 450A racer Jake Baumert and I are moving out to Southern California for the winter. I have come to the conclusion that out of the 4 tracks, Perris, Milestone, Lake Elsinore and Lucas Oil Mx that the 4 closest cities on average to these tracks are Lake Elsinore, Corona, Moreno Valley and Riverside. However I have been given advice from several people that work in the industry and live in these areas above, that if we are moving out to California that Irvine is the place to be.

So my question is Irvine vs Lake Elsinore, Corona, Moreno Valley, Riverside.

On average Irvine is roughly 25 miles farther away. Is that extra commute worth it? [We would take the 261 to 241 toll road to get to the tracks]

Let's here the good and the bad.

Also post your age and marital status lol - I am 30 and single, Jake is 19 and single
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9/7/2012 4:32pm
Irvine....u would drive too much

Lake Elsinore is kinda scummy

Corona is decent depending on the area

Moreno Valley is pretty ghetto......we call it the new compton

Riverside is decent, i personally live there...i live in a section called Canyon Crest which is alot nicer . some parts of riverside are rough

Temecula is pretty cool, same with Murrieta/Menifee/Norco

im about to move to a place called Canyon Lake, its a little upper end, but really really nice
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9/7/2012 4:33pm
whats more important? living closer to the beach and adding an possibly an hour each way to ride because of horrible traffic and the 91 or paying less and being close to the tracks? there are bad areas in any county, you just have to do your homework.
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9/7/2012 4:39pm
In reality, the beach is where it is at, especially if you are only here for the winter. A lot of places have decent rental rates between the end of summer and the start of summer. You can literally pay $2800 a month for a place that rents for $4k-5K a week during the summer.

If you do choose to live in the Inland Empire. You will need the following

1. flat bill hat
2. black socks
3. lifted truck (the harder to load your bike in the better)
4. tats
5. MMA stickers and shirts
6. Metal Mulisha gear
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9/7/2012 4:39pm
The Commute in rush hour is brutal, and the cost difference in a rental is going to be is going to be around 50-100% higher in Irvine. Also the best tracks are actually Glen Helen, Comp Edge, and Racetown 395, while milestone and perris are fun they're not what I would call the premier tracks. If he's coming out to practice supercross Milestone's track is probably his best bet. I would try to find a nice central rental in Rancho Cucamonga, Norco or Corona.

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9/7/2012 4:43pm
Traffic will be a nightmare no matter where you go. Of the places you listed, I would go Corona. Irvine is the nicer place to live but it's a much longer drive for riding all the time. Lake Elsinore, Mo Val, and Riverside are all dumps.
9/7/2012 4:43pm
I edited the post to include: Also post your age and marital status lol - I am 30 and single, Jake is 19 and single

Furthermore keep in mind we would not be commuting to the tracks during rush hour. So the extra 25 miles wouldn't take that long, but i agree it would be hell during rush hour...
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9/7/2012 4:46pm
I do pool service in the city of Irvine and there is no way I could stand to live in the same city with the douche bags that live there. You're better option would be to live just a couple miles away from Irvine in the city of Huntington Beach!.. But, that does leave you about an hour away from the tracks. One good thing about living here in HB is that when you do go to the tracks in the morning the traffic is going the opposite direction.
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9/7/2012 5:15pm
Ok, i live a hour away from all the track listed.. but im up in arcadia ca...

anyhoo, here is a breakdown of the areas.. good and negative

Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas.

Lake Elsinore- Pretty cool spot has good places and some very very bad places (meth capital, i believe lol)...(super bro-hoes, you know the type metal mulisha all day)

Corona- Nicest spot you have listed out off all of them.. But it has some bad areas too. (Moto Hoes... with class) (moderately priced)

Moreno Valley- Dump, do not move there (price range cheap)

Riverside- has some really nice areas and some ultra shitty ones... research where your moving too.

In your range your mentioning... I would recommend Fontana.. aka Fontucky.
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9/7/2012 6:22pm
@Motodave15

"Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas."

By your Irvine comment I think you meant "Successful people/I envy each of them...(women that won't talk to me so I call them sluts and moto hoes even though there isn't a single moto hoe within a 15 mile radius..."

And....

"Corona- Nicest spot you have listed out off all of them.. But it has some bad areas too. (Moto Hoes... with class) (moderately priced)"

I think you meant " Industrial wasteland and closest thing to scorched earth/terrible food/pissed off people/ 91 Hwy..."
The only thing fun to do in Corona is to watch it fade away in your rearview mirror on the way to Irvine!
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9/7/2012 6:30pm
drifto614 wrote:
@Motodave15 [i]"Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas."[/i] [b]By your Irvine comment I think you...
@Motodave15

"Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas."

By your Irvine comment I think you meant "Successful people/I envy each of them...(women that won't talk to me so I call them sluts and moto hoes even though there isn't a single moto hoe within a 15 mile radius..."

And....

"Corona- Nicest spot you have listed out off all of them.. But it has some bad areas too. (Moto Hoes... with class) (moderately priced)"

I think you meant " Industrial wasteland and closest thing to scorched earth/terrible food/pissed off people/ 91 Hwy..."
The only thing fun to do in Corona is to watch it fade away in your rearview mirror on the way to Irvine!
Hahahahah, trust me i dont envy anybody... nor do i even want to live down there... nope nope and no.... as for the moto hoes.. you must not be looking buddy, they are all around down there... Ignorance is bliss
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9/7/2012 6:34pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2012 6:39pm
Irvine is a great spot...clean beautiful city with loads of professional people who have no intentions of stealing your bikes and goodies...lots of pretty girls...however pricey IMO

I would recommend Rancho Cucamnga.
9/7/2012 6:34pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2012 6:35pm
drifto614 wrote:
@Motodave15 [i]"Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas."[/i] [b]By your Irvine comment I think you...
@Motodave15

"Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas."

By your Irvine comment I think you meant "Successful people/I envy each of them...(women that won't talk to me so I call them sluts and moto hoes even though there isn't a single moto hoe within a 15 mile radius..."

And....

"Corona- Nicest spot you have listed out off all of them.. But it has some bad areas too. (Moto Hoes... with class) (moderately priced)"

I think you meant " Industrial wasteland and closest thing to scorched earth/terrible food/pissed off people/ 91 Hwy..."
The only thing fun to do in Corona is to watch it fade away in your rearview mirror on the way to Irvine!
Hmm, now I kind of feel like the word "dousche" was coined in Irvine.

On a serious note, what kind of "successful" people are we talking here? Computer Geniuses, or Billy Mays 3 easy payment of 19.99 commercial success?

And if you're bikes aren't going to get jacked, that's a bonus. Why not go there?
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9/7/2012 6:42pm
drifto614 wrote:
@Motodave15 [i]"Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas."[/i] [b]By your Irvine comment I think you...
@Motodave15

"Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas."

By your Irvine comment I think you meant "Successful people/I envy each of them...(women that won't talk to me so I call them sluts and moto hoes even though there isn't a single moto hoe within a 15 mile radius..."

And....

"Corona- Nicest spot you have listed out off all of them.. But it has some bad areas too. (Moto Hoes... with class) (moderately priced)"

I think you meant " Industrial wasteland and closest thing to scorched earth/terrible food/pissed off people/ 91 Hwy..."
The only thing fun to do in Corona is to watch it fade away in your rearview mirror on the way to Irvine!
Look at this guy coming in and proving Dave's point with his first post! Grinning Grinning Grinning
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9/7/2012 7:47pm
drifto614 wrote:
@Motodave15 [i]"Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas."[/i] [b]By your Irvine comment I think you...
@Motodave15

"Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas."

By your Irvine comment I think you meant "Successful people/I envy each of them...(women that won't talk to me so I call them sluts and moto hoes even though there isn't a single moto hoe within a 15 mile radius..."

And....

"Corona- Nicest spot you have listed out off all of them.. But it has some bad areas too. (Moto Hoes... with class) (moderately priced)"

I think you meant " Industrial wasteland and closest thing to scorched earth/terrible food/pissed off people/ 91 Hwy..."
The only thing fun to do in Corona is to watch it fade away in your rearview mirror on the way to Irvine!
Way to totally prove his point.
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9/7/2012 7:53pm
look in anaheim hills area. 35 mins from milestone, 35 mins to the beach. as far as irvine goes, really nice area, long drive to the track. certain parts of corona are really nice, the rest is a shitbox... get a place in canyon lake if you're moving to the ie, that's my best advice. all the other places, get your shit insured.
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9/7/2012 8:14pm
SLAPAHO wrote:
look in anaheim hills area. 35 mins from milestone, 35 mins to the beach. as far as irvine goes, really nice area, long drive to the...
look in anaheim hills area. 35 mins from milestone, 35 mins to the beach. as far as irvine goes, really nice area, long drive to the track. certain parts of corona are really nice, the rest is a shitbox... get a place in canyon lake if you're moving to the ie, that's my best advice. all the other places, get your shit insured.
Good call on Canyon Lake, Slap!!!..
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9/7/2012 8:41pm
Motodave15 wrote:
Ok, i live a hour away from all the track listed.. but im up in arcadia ca... anyhoo, here is a breakdown of the areas.. good...
Ok, i live a hour away from all the track listed.. but im up in arcadia ca...

anyhoo, here is a breakdown of the areas.. good and negative

Irvine- Pretentious dickheads/ asshole heaven...(super sluts/moto hoes)..But other than that, pretty expensive but has some really nice areas.

Lake Elsinore- Pretty cool spot has good places and some very very bad places (meth capital, i believe lol)...(super bro-hoes, you know the type metal mulisha all day)

Corona- Nicest spot you have listed out off all of them.. But it has some bad areas too. (Moto Hoes... with class) (moderately priced)

Moreno Valley- Dump, do not move there (price range cheap)

Riverside- has some really nice areas and some ultra shitty ones... research where your moving too.

In your range your mentioning... I would recommend Fontana.. aka Fontucky.
another AKA, Felony Flats. that would be North Fontana which is decent. Garage space and parking can be a real bitch in Huntington beach unless you get inland. If you are only coming for the winter, I would go to Corona/Norco. Are you looking for an apartment? House? Traffic sucks at all hours in Orange County.
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9/7/2012 10:03pm
Have you considered Temecula, Murrieta, menifee. These are nice areas that are also very close to a lot of tracks. There are also a lot of affordable houses for rent. lots of resturaunts and store in the area. From Temecula you have both cahuila and pala 15 minutes away. Perris and starwest/ lucas oil mx are about 30-40 traffic depending, Glen Helen 1 hour, Adelanto and race town 1 hour and 15 minutes. Milestone 45 minutes. Also you are dealing with the 15 freeway which compared to the other areas you listed is a little easier on traffic. There is also a lot of good free riding places in Temecula and Menifee. This is just my 2 cense. Ultimately it is up to you.
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9/7/2012 10:16pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2012 10:23pm
I live right by irvine, with no traffic it takes me 50 minutes to get to Milestone which is the closes track to me.

If I was serious about racing MX, I couldn't see me living any more than 30 minutes away from a track.

I would probably live across the street from starwest (lucas oil). There is a house/condo complex right there for cheap and I have heard of people just riding straight to the track instead of packing up in a truck. Its only 15 minutes from milestone and maybe 30 to racetown/ comp edge.
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9/7/2012 10:30pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2012 10:34pm
While Irvine is a very nice area, it is very expensive. You would also need to invest money into Fastrak and take toll roads to avoid massive traffic jams heading out to the tracks. Have to agree with everyone else and say check out Riverside, Temecula, Murrietta areas. I'm 19 and single.
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9/7/2012 10:34pm
I lived in Canyon Lake during the fall and it was real nice.
Like someone else said, Menifee, Murrieta, Temecula are nice and real close to tracks.

All these places are hot and miserable in the summer, but you don't need to worry about that since you are moving there just for the winter.
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9/7/2012 10:36pm
I don't recommend any of the cities in the title of this thread (sorry Brad).
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9/7/2012 10:46pm
Alot of good info here, I would say if you want to be closer to the water go Anaheim hills but the 91 is brutal from 6-10am and 2-6 pm you'll spend 3 hours a day in your vehicle. I heavily suggest staying near the 15 its your best bet to get the most out of your winter riding less travel time more track time. I really favor Rancho cucamonga myself best bang for the buck, nice neighborhoods on the north and eastern ends, tons of great shopping and restaurants, theaters, Citizens bank arena, comedy club, and sportsbars at Mills and Victoria gardens and the most central spot to hit every track 15mins to milestone, 30 to comp edge, 20 to glen helen, 40 to elsinore, 40 to racetown, and I think its the cleanest area in the IE.
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9/8/2012 7:38am
Ridemx314 wrote:
Have you considered Temecula, Murrieta, menifee. These are nice areas that are also very close to a lot of tracks. There are also a lot of...
Have you considered Temecula, Murrieta, menifee. These are nice areas that are also very close to a lot of tracks. There are also a lot of affordable houses for rent. lots of resturaunts and store in the area. From Temecula you have both cahuila and pala 15 minutes away. Perris and starwest/ lucas oil mx are about 30-40 traffic depending, Glen Helen 1 hour, Adelanto and race town 1 hour and 15 minutes. Milestone 45 minutes. Also you are dealing with the 15 freeway which compared to the other areas you listed is a little easier on traffic. There is also a lot of good free riding places in Temecula and Menifee. This is just my 2 cense. Ultimately it is up to you.
Read all of the posts above.
This one ^ is spot on.
Not to mention tons of mx shops, companies and riders live and work and are based there.
You will run into these people at restraunts, gas stations, grocery stores every day.
Lots of these guys have private tracks too and can get you "in" possibly.
They all train down there too.
Irvine- nice, but too far
Beach - too far, little moto
Lucas Oil track will have a sx track.
Elsinore will have a sx track.
Perris is close
Pala should have a sx track
Temecula, Murrieta, Menifee is where you need to be.
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9/8/2012 7:42am
Your "commute" to the tracks would be against traffic if you live out by Irvine. Neighborhoods are much more consistant too. I would look for a place by the Irvine Spectrum (5/405) like Lake Forest, Tustin or Orange. The further south the better. Irvine is a lot of townhomes and no garage/yard and Lake Forest is a little older but it's nice.
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9/8/2012 9:12am
DCL36 wrote:
The Commute in rush hour is brutal, and the cost difference in a rental is going to be is going to be around 50-100% higher in...
The Commute in rush hour is brutal, and the cost difference in a rental is going to be is going to be around 50-100% higher in Irvine. Also the best tracks are actually Glen Helen, Comp Edge, and Racetown 395, while milestone and perris are fun they're not what I would call the premier tracks. If he's coming out to practice supercross Milestone's track is probably his best bet. I would try to find a nice central rental in Rancho Cucamonga, Norco or Corona.
^^^^^This
9/8/2012 9:58am
Ton's of great info guys thanks! Jake and I are flying out on Wednesday to look at a bunch of these areas and this post will be printed off and used as we explore for a house.

I was thinking Temecula area as well so nothing is out of the question at this point. Another thing that is on my mind is access to good cycling paths leaving the house as well. Like a Santa Ana River Trail etc...
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9/8/2012 10:53am
More cougars in Orange county but its more expensive..I have family in laguna hills..the place is super nice but pricey$$$$$

if you're going out there to ride..id find the closet, cheapest place possible to the tracks.

the inland empire is kind of a dump but hey..i'd take the IE over anywhere on the east coast..lol
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9/8/2012 11:15am
Most of the places you mentioned offer lots of cycling opportunities. I wouldn't consider the Santa Ana River trail good for training. There is a lot of traffic on that from families to racers and everything in between. Having raised kids and had to travel to the tracks you mentioned, I would choose Rancho Cucamonga or Norco. Close to the IE tracks and the desert tracks. With that said, my son is 25 and he said the social life near the beach is the best.
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9/9/2012 2:28pm
The Santa Ana river trail is great if you like seeing homeless people expose themselves as you ride by!

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