Josh Hansen fired from H&H?

TheNewOriginal 8/16/2012 8:19am
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BobbyM wrote:
it's a given TG is smarter than most of you simply because...

1: he's from norcal.

2: see #1
Stop this perplexing shit, I was stuck in an infinite loop until the torch finally burned out last night.
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MR. X 8/16/2012 9:18am
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When his career is over he will have NO REGERTS what's so ever.
Crisp BRAAAP! 8/16/2012 10:25am
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I'm pretty sure when Josh rode up to the camera with the Dodge logo proudly displayed on the side of his helmet that corporate back in...
I'm pretty sure when Josh rode up to the camera with the Dodge logo proudly displayed on the side of his helmet that corporate back in the states was not very pleased.
^^^This.

No more strippers and smoke machines: Dodge isn't going to want this sort of behavior. Monster? Yes. Dodge? No. And Dodge must be paying the bills now. Watson spoke at length on Pulp about cleaning up their act. Drinking a beer half naked during a race is not consistent with the new, corporate-friendly image.
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Banger 8/16/2012 10:27am
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H&H is shooting themselves in the foot. Sure, corporate don't want loose cannons. But in my opinion that's what the team is all about. A bunch of punk rock old school motocrossers.

But I guess that just doesn't fly in the industry no more. It's a shame.

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Banger wrote:
H&H is shooting themselves in the foot. Sure, corporate don't want loose cannons. But in my opinion that's what the team is all about. A bunch...
H&H is shooting themselves in the foot. Sure, corporate don't want loose cannons. But in my opinion that's what the team is all about. A bunch of punk rock old school motocrossers.

But I guess that just doesn't fly in the industry no more. It's a shame.
Yea and where's that gotten em? They've never been a threat for race wins or podiums... maybe their trying to WIN now. And to do that you need "corporate" dollars... shits not rocket science.
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Banger 8/16/2012 10:53am
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I am not saying they should be turning down corporate dollars.
Although I am saying it's sad that you can't be a little different and shake things up. Pretty much just what they did last season.
Obviously they are trying to step up their game - and that started with Hansen. I think it sucks if they give him the boot because of the person he is since he is the perfect rider for the team - if he gets good results of course.
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Banger wrote:
I am not saying they should be turning down corporate dollars. Although I am saying it's sad that you can't be a little different and shake...
I am not saying they should be turning down corporate dollars.
Although I am saying it's sad that you can't be a little different and shake things up. Pretty much just what they did last season.
Obviously they are trying to step up their game - and that started with Hansen. I think it sucks if they give him the boot because of the person he is since he is the perfect rider for the team - if he gets good results of course.
The problem is that the companies that are cool with go-go dancers, rider screwing off and a string of mediocre finishes don't have the cash to support a team like H and H. Maybe they have it for the short term but never the long term.
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BobbyM 8/16/2012 12:06pm
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I think it's funny that some people don't think racers party. It's been that way for a long ass time. People don't think Jeff Emig partied...
I think it's funny that some people don't think racers party. It's been that way for a long ass time. People don't think Jeff Emig partied his ass off? The only difference is social media showing all the details. I'm sure he's just having fun end of story. This also isn't the first time a racer lost a contract for doing things he likes to do. Hanny is fast as hell and will get a deal to ride, because all that ends up mattering is top 5s like he was getting last season.
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Haha - there's a huge difference between "partying" and what Josh does. 90% of the people I know that party - still get their job done...
Haha - there's a huge difference between "partying" and what Josh does. 90% of the people I know that party - still get their job done everyday, and are still held responsible for their actions - so they keep it to a reasonable level. As others have stated, he can do whatever he wants and be up on that pedestal of "no sellouts".
And as far as "top 5s" he got 2. How bout we bet that he doesn't sniff a top 5 at all in 2013?
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OH so I guess you guys hang out all the time and you know what kind of "partying" josh does on a daily basis. OR you...
OH so I guess you guys hang out all the time and you know what kind of "partying" josh does on a daily basis. OR you base all your opinions on the guy based on a few pics you saw on the Internet? Like I said in my last post you prob wouldn't know jack about his lifestyle if it weren't for the social media. Even though it was poorly written read Jeremy mcgraths book he wrote in 2004. If you think the stuff in there wasn't "partying" then I don't know what kind of stuff you think lil Hanny is doing.
bird doggin chicks and bangin beaver aint exactly."partying"
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BobbyM 8/16/2012 12:08pm
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I'm pretty sure when Josh rode up to the camera with the Dodge logo proudly displayed on the side of his helmet that corporate back in...
I'm pretty sure when Josh rode up to the camera with the Dodge logo proudly displayed on the side of his helmet that corporate back in the states was not very pleased.
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^^^This. No more strippers and smoke machines: Dodge isn't going to want this sort of behavior. Monster? Yes. Dodge? No. And Dodge must be paying the...
^^^This.

No more strippers and smoke machines: Dodge isn't going to want this sort of behavior. Monster? Yes. Dodge? No. And Dodge must be paying the bills now. Watson spoke at length on Pulp about cleaning up their act. Drinking a beer half naked during a race is not consistent with the new, corporate-friendly image.
bullshit...
tatts all over is the corp image..
get a grip bro
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Banger wrote:
H&H is shooting themselves in the foot. Sure, corporate don't want loose cannons. But in my opinion that's what the team is all about. A bunch...
H&H is shooting themselves in the foot. Sure, corporate don't want loose cannons. But in my opinion that's what the team is all about. A bunch of punk rock old school motocrossers.

But I guess that just doesn't fly in the industry no more. It's a shame.
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Yea and where's that gotten em? They've never been a threat for race wins or podiums... maybe their trying to WIN now. And to do that...
Yea and where's that gotten em? They've never been a threat for race wins or podiums... maybe their trying to WIN now. And to do that you need "corporate" dollars... shits not rocket science.
how many different riders have won most sx's in the past 5 years?
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IceMan446 8/16/2012 12:17pm
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So they (H&H) SENT him to a huge party known to have alcohol, hoes and drugs and expected good publicity???

It's not rocket science.
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burnside 8/16/2012 3:05pm
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Banger wrote:
H&H is shooting themselves in the foot. Sure, corporate don't want loose cannons. But in my opinion that's what the team is all about. A bunch...
H&H is shooting themselves in the foot. Sure, corporate don't want loose cannons. But in my opinion that's what the team is all about. A bunch of punk rock old school motocrossers.

But I guess that just doesn't fly in the industry no more. It's a shame.
Got to say, I'm a bit confused by this too. Until the truth comes out is hard to comment... but I always thought Hart & Watson were very loyal to Hanny... If they fired him for riding in a Borat string at that fun race... then damn, that is very lame, soft cock nonsense. Kenny will be the next one out on his ass for not fitting in line and Hart will start lazering off his tats.
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Predator wrote:
Yea and where's that gotten em? They've never been a threat for race wins or podiums... maybe their trying to WIN now. And to do that...
Yea and where's that gotten em? They've never been a threat for race wins or podiums... maybe their trying to WIN now. And to do that you need "corporate" dollars... shits not rocket science.
Who is left to sign thats going to realistically win any races in 2013? Even if they do have corporate dollars and they are hanging from RC's balls...

Wilson - signed
Barcia - signed
Canard - signed
Reed - signed
Stewart - signed
RV - signed
Dungey - signed
Milsaps - signed

Its still only tier two guys left...
DirkDiggler69 8/16/2012 3:15pm
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Partridge's twitter?

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What's done in the dark will all be brought to light...... You all will see.
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Team Ideal 8/16/2012 3:42pm
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DirkDiggler69 wrote:
Partridge's twitter?

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What's done in the dark will all be brought to light...... You all will see.
so he was bangin' one of the bosses GF/wives??? wtf does that mean, he did have some chick offer to let his balls high five her chin, f**k I'm jelous
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Hansen to Team 22 and bringing Monster with him.

Oh wait, would Hansen fall under the "needing a babysitter" group?
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DirkDiggler69 wrote:
Partridge's twitter?

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What's done in the dark will all be brought to light...... You all will see.
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so he was bangin' one of the bosses GF/wives??? wtf does that mean, he did have some chick offer to let his balls high five her...
so he was bangin' one of the bosses GF/wives??? wtf does that mean, he did have some chick offer to let his balls high five her chin, f**k I'm jelous
Hahaha
I don't know....

But what I do know is....Terminating a rider/professional athlete and not issuing some sort of press release at a professional level of any sport is extremely unprofessional. Smile
Sounds like the Hanny deal is the "Pot calling the kettle Black".

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Hahaha I don't know.... But what I do know is....Terminating a rider/professional athlete and not issuing some sort of press release at a professional level of...
Hahaha
I don't know....

But what I do know is....Terminating a rider/professional athlete and not issuing some sort of press release at a professional level of any sport is extremely unprofessional. Smile
Sounds like the Hanny deal is the "Pot calling the kettle Black".
Maybe they did it out of respect for him ,what if he did something terrible and are not letting out in public.
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So after reading all this,WAS HE FIRED OR NOT?
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FastEddy 8/16/2012 4:03pm
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Maybe they did it out of respect for him ,what if he did something terrible and are not letting out in public.
Well the cat is out the bag....and running around the rumor mill for almost a week now.
People know something is up.
Trying to cover it up or hide it just makes the situation even worse (everyone is guessing,rumors growing ect..).
Then again,we are back at being unprofessional.
They wouldn't have to go into detail in a PR...but something general & official about it would be nice.
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FastEddy 8/16/2012 4:04pm
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Steven_Perry wrote:
So after reading all this,WAS HE FIRED OR NOT?
I guess it's still a secret.
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mauidex 8/16/2012 4:27pm
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OK now this might start to get really good................
Crisp BRAAAP! 8/16/2012 4:37pm
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brianfagan9 wrote:
I'm pretty sure when Josh rode up to the camera with the Dodge logo proudly displayed on the side of his helmet that corporate back in...
I'm pretty sure when Josh rode up to the camera with the Dodge logo proudly displayed on the side of his helmet that corporate back in the states was not very pleased.
Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
^^^This. No more strippers and smoke machines: Dodge isn't going to want this sort of behavior. Monster? Yes. Dodge? No. And Dodge must be paying the...
^^^This.

No more strippers and smoke machines: Dodge isn't going to want this sort of behavior. Monster? Yes. Dodge? No. And Dodge must be paying the bills now. Watson spoke at length on Pulp about cleaning up their act. Drinking a beer half naked during a race is not consistent with the new, corporate-friendly image.
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bullshit...
tatts all over is the corp image..
get a grip bro
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Nah, bro, nah. They want the tats image, not the headlines. They want the Hart brand: used to be wild, sure, but now settled down with a nice pop star and kid. They don't want naked riders pulling off to drink and ride. Tats are marketable to the demographic they want. But they can't turn off the other demographics while doing it. Hanny has a strong brand, just doesn't fit Dodge, bro.
Steven_Perry 8/16/2012 4:40pm
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Steven_Perry wrote:
So after reading all this,WAS HE FIRED OR NOT?
FastEddy wrote:
I guess it's still a secret.
Talk about a sewing circle!LOL!!
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chrisbuehler 8/16/2012 4:46pm
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Who is left to sign thats going to realistically win any races in 2013? Even if they do have corporate dollars and they are hanging from...
Who is left to sign thats going to realistically win any races in 2013? Even if they do have corporate dollars and they are hanging from RC's balls...

Wilson - signed
Barcia - signed
Canard - signed
Reed - signed
Stewart - signed
RV - signed
Dungey - signed
Milsaps - signed

Its still only tier two guys left...
Even Wilson and Barcia have some work to do to hang with the fast 5. You can criticize the depth of the premier class because they are hurt but when all those guys are healthy you're racing for 6th, hoping for top 5. Milsaps on a Zook this year? He seemed to ride the Yamaha the best but still had his share of ejects. Seems like lately a switch to Yellow has brought on more speed, at least IMO. Be cool if Davi can find a little extra this season
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Lightning78 8/16/2012 4:51pm
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Josh Hansen to JWR with Deano and Monster comes with them..... Josh Grant to H&H..... Nice little trade up..... Don't be surprised if Hanny jumps on...
Josh Hansen to JWR with Deano and Monster comes with them.....
Josh Grant to H&H.....

Nice little trade up.....

Don't be surprised if Hanny jumps on with TLD, he has rode a TLD bike before....but then good bye Monster!
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Both could be likely scenarios. Although for me its hard to envision either team picking up Josh for SX only but I feel he is a...
Both could be likely scenarios.
Although for me its hard to envision either team picking up Josh for SX only but I feel he is a great choice for SX.
Monster is a personal sponsor of Josh and I believe a great source of income for him so it would be odd for him to leave them for a RedBull backed team. But changes can be for the better.
I'm going to take a wild guess here..... With Monster being a personal sponsor of josh's and H&H Going to Suzuki's next year, rockstar is throwing big money at Suzuki for the team millsaps is going to be on, my guess is that rockstar will want to be involved with H&H so like mentioned above, monster WANTS Josh somewhere and maybe he wasn't willing to part with monster so his conflict of interest causes him to go elsewhere like JWR, either way he'll have to race outdoors is my guess with a monster supported team, I'm assuming that H&H, be it rockstar or another conflicting drink sponsor is causing this move. I highly doubt he will leave monster and its seems pretty obvious that RC will be spearheading H&H's effort with all the hints being dropped BUT RC is a bigtime monster sponsored rider or was a monster sponsored rider AND I. heard somewhere (matthes I think) said RC was pissed that Suzuki pulled his works bike budget for James and gave the works bike to James so RC is gonna help H&H's Suzuki's effort to spite them a little ...... They should've given James ... Metcalf's bike bec he surely has had 2 HORRIBLE years on Suzuki's ..... I also heard matthes say and Watson eluded to the fact that jlaw wants to return and has been testing with rc and H&H to see if he's still got it.....lots of crazy scenarios going to play out by November, it should be very interesting and don't count jlaw out, you don't forget how to go that fast, with rc keeping him properly trained and as a riding coach he could be lethal.
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Got to say, I'm a bit confused by this too. Until the truth comes out is hard to comment... but I always thought Hart & Watson...
Got to say, I'm a bit confused by this too. Until the truth comes out is hard to comment... but I always thought Hart & Watson were very loyal to Hanny... If they fired him for riding in a Borat string at that fun race... then damn, that is very lame, soft cock nonsense. Kenny will be the next one out on his ass for not fitting in line and Hart will start lazering off his tats.
"Kenny will be the next one out on his ass for not fitting in line and Hart will start lazering off his tats."

You said Hart...... would be lazering..... off.... tattoos.................


I just sometimes immediately have to hate someone.
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Lightning78 8/16/2012 4:56pm
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I sort of assumed Hansen would be out once H&H made the decision to race SX & MX next year. Did he have a meltdown and...
I sort of assumed Hansen would be out once H&H made the decision to race SX & MX next year. Did he have a meltdown and get fired, or is he just not a good fit for the new H&H team?
H&H is only using ONE rider next year for outdoors to figure out their program so they will be at least 50% sx only since they are supposedly to have 2 riders both in sx and 1 carrying over into outdoors

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