DC LLQ question

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6/4/2012 6:01pm
slipdog wrote:
So there is no 25+ or 30+ A/Pro class, the're just open?
ehr400 wrote:
Yes they are.
No they aren't.

+25 is open to all classifications.

+30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here.

One other note. There is not a Vet B rider alive that will complete in the +25 or +35 class at Loretta's. If a B rider finished in the top 20 they would be one of the biggest sand bagging riders around. I can think of 1 or 2 that have done that.. Eternal B class riders are no good.

Take out the past Professional Champs, and there are stil tons of high quality Ams that rock and roll.

DC does a great job with this event, and it shows by the amount of participation through out the area, regional and finals in Tennessee.
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6/4/2012 6:45pm
slipdog wrote:
So there is no 25+ or 30+ A/Pro class, the're just open?
ehr400 wrote:
Yes they are.
sc961 wrote:
No they aren't. +25 is open to all classifications. +30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here...
No they aren't.

+25 is open to all classifications.

+30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here.

One other note. There is not a Vet B rider alive that will complete in the +25 or +35 class at Loretta's. If a B rider finished in the top 20 they would be one of the biggest sand bagging riders around. I can think of 1 or 2 that have done that.. Eternal B class riders are no good.

Take out the past Professional Champs, and there are stil tons of high quality Ams that rock and roll.

DC does a great job with this event, and it shows by the amount of participation through out the area, regional and finals in Tennessee.
What I meant was down here there is a a vet expert class locally.
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6/4/2012 6:57pm Edited Date/Time 6/4/2012 7:25pm
Just to clarify. No I was not at the regional. The proper channels were gone through and from what I heard this guy was supposed to be DQ'd right after the area yet he still got to race the regional. It might be a case of him riding under protest and then getting the boot before Loretta's. I don't get the pride in saying "yeah I used to ride pro but I dropped down so I can win more now" man if it were me and I was ever that fast I'd be proud of being pro and would run it until I couldn't ride anymore. This wasn't in anyway an attack on DC. I was just looking for clarification everyone wants to go to Lorettas and its just a shame that some guys ruin it for so many others. I see the AL you guys are talking about and I am talking about someone else. So there are 2 of them right there.
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6/4/2012 7:21pm
I was told by people at the track he was DQ'd from the qualifier.

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6/4/2012 7:42pm
TomZ wrote:
This sounds like a situation that Kip (or DC) will not allow so maybe just getting the name of the rider into the right hands will...
This sounds like a situation that Kip (or DC) will not allow so maybe just getting the name of the rider into the right hands will resolve this. Pro license guys won't ride B/C.

The other side of this is the idea of Vet riders objecting to lining up against RC, Ferry, Sheak etc.................. how many of these guys would truely be competitive for a top finish if none of these big name riders were there ??? My guess is not many.

Why not enjoy the experience and have fun lining up next to guys that were(still are) our racing heros ?? There are VERY few guys that can truely compete for a top spot at LL....so go live it up at the race, have fun and take in all that LL has to offer. Be part of the event and stop worrying about 11th place vs 14th place. What other event are most of us mortals going to race in and line up with some big names ??

Be thankful that these guys still want to race........how cool is it that they still have the fire ?? If they are the correct age for the class they should line up.
ehr400 wrote:
Well Tom as a former Michigander I have to disagree. I think that it is cool having them there but how about letting Joe blow live...
Well Tom as a former Michigander I have to disagree. I think that it is cool having them there but how about letting Joe blow live out his LL dream? These former pros have more then likely attended or won LL championships in their younger years and made a living or raced pro that a majority have vet riders have not. I understand how the rules are but there alot more who people who I have talked to over the years who agree that there should be a class for former pros. Anyways flame on. Lol.
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I disagree with you also TomZ. If you take out all the former AMA Pros then the first few lagitament B class riders are now in...
I disagree with you also TomZ. If you take out all the former AMA Pros then the first few lagitament B class riders are now in contention for a top finish. No B rider has a chance to be competitive if they are forced to race professionals.
Keep in mind these former pros do not race in the B/C class.

EHR - I understand your point but for some the dream isn't to win but simply be part of the LL event and the sport in general. I know that the idea of NOT racing for the win may not be popular so i guess i'm showing my mature side.LOL.

I have had the good fortune to ride MX and Supermoto with a lot of guys that were my heroes.......really just a great experience to share the same track.

So much for my old guy romantic view of moto.
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6/4/2012 8:13pm
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Keep in mind these former pros do not race in the B/C class. EHR - I understand your point but for some the dream isn't to...
Keep in mind these former pros do not race in the B/C class.

EHR - I understand your point but for some the dream isn't to win but simply be part of the LL event and the sport in general. I know that the idea of NOT racing for the win may not be popular so i guess i'm showing my mature side.LOL.

I have had the good fortune to ride MX and Supermoto with a lot of guys that were my heroes.......really just a great experience to share the same track.

So much for my old guy romantic view of moto.
I get it now, I misunderstood the class structure. 25+ and 35+ is open and the B/C riders have the 30+ to get their shot.

That's fair enough, and like you said they can run another class and take a gate drop with RC, Fro, etc...
6/5/2012 7:37am
slipdog wrote:
So there is no 25+ or 30+ A/Pro class, the're just open?
ehr400 wrote:
Yes they are.
sc961 wrote:
No they aren't. +25 is open to all classifications. +30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here...
No they aren't.

+25 is open to all classifications.

+30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here.

One other note. There is not a Vet B rider alive that will complete in the +25 or +35 class at Loretta's. If a B rider finished in the top 20 they would be one of the biggest sand bagging riders around. I can think of 1 or 2 that have done that.. Eternal B class riders are no good.

Take out the past Professional Champs, and there are stil tons of high quality Ams that rock and roll.

DC does a great job with this event, and it shows by the amount of participation through out the area, regional and finals in Tennessee.
"+30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here. "


there are a few "former" A Riders now in B class who qualified at the Regional. so does that mean because they have a "B" card they can go or because they were in the A class in the past they can't ???
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"[i][b]+30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here.[/b] [/i] " there are a few "former" A Riders...
"+30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here. "


there are a few "former" A Riders now in B class who qualified at the Regional. so does that mean because they have a "B" card they can go or because they were in the A class in the past they can't ???
If they have been allowed for some reason to go down from A to B, they would be legal.

I'd find that hard to believe, but not impossible.

One way I've seen around the advancement from B to A is if the rider is under 16 years of age. Since we're talking about vet classes, that shouldn't be an issue.

If I saw a former A rider competing in the Vet B/C class, i'd be emailing MX Sports with the riders name and qualifier location.

That should solve any issues related to riding down a class.
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6/5/2012 2:55pm
"[i][b]+30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here.[/b] [/i] " there are a few "former" A Riders...
"+30 is a B/C only. No one having raced A or pro is allowed to comnpete here. "


there are a few "former" A Riders now in B class who qualified at the Regional. so does that mean because they have a "B" card they can go or because they were in the A class in the past they can't ???
sc961 wrote:
If they have been allowed for some reason to go down from A to B, they would be legal. I'd find that hard to believe, but...
If they have been allowed for some reason to go down from A to B, they would be legal.

I'd find that hard to believe, but not impossible.

One way I've seen around the advancement from B to A is if the rider is under 16 years of age. Since we're talking about vet classes, that shouldn't be an issue.

If I saw a former A rider competing in the Vet B/C class, i'd be emailing MX Sports with the riders name and qualifier location.

That should solve any issues related to riding down a class.
Yep, I thought so too I know it was sent and with the results to back it but there you they are right there at the regional. Killing the dream of just going for the other guys that belong in the class. I think that if you get top 10 in that class too you should be out of it. Move on to the open class if you are that fast but that's not against the rules. Really it just burns me that anyone with that much talent and speed would WANT to step down. I'd give anything just to have that kind of speed for 1 day. Some of these guys have it and try to back it down to run a lower class. Its just not right for Joe Blow.
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Yep, I thought so too I know it was sent and with the results to back it but there you they are right there at the...
Yep, I thought so too I know it was sent and with the results to back it but there you they are right there at the regional. Killing the dream of just going for the other guys that belong in the class. I think that if you get top 10 in that class too you should be out of it. Move on to the open class if you are that fast but that's not against the rules. Really it just burns me that anyone with that much talent and speed would WANT to step down. I'd give anything just to have that kind of speed for 1 day. Some of these guys have it and try to back it down to run a lower class. Its just not right for Joe Blow.
Crush, are you saying you sent rider names to MX Sports with proof of A class results, and those names remained in competition for a spot at Loretta's?
6/5/2012 5:52pm
The AMA had the information on May 1st.
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crusher773 wrote:
Yep, I thought so too I know it was sent and with the results to back it but there you they are right there at the...
Yep, I thought so too I know it was sent and with the results to back it but there you they are right there at the regional. Killing the dream of just going for the other guys that belong in the class. I think that if you get top 10 in that class too you should be out of it. Move on to the open class if you are that fast but that's not against the rules. Really it just burns me that anyone with that much talent and speed would WANT to step down. I'd give anything just to have that kind of speed for 1 day. Some of these guys have it and try to back it down to run a lower class. Its just not right for Joe Blow.
sc961 wrote:
Crush, are you saying you sent rider names to MX Sports with proof of A class results, and those names remained in competition for a spot...
Crush, are you saying you sent rider names to MX Sports with proof of A class results, and those names remained in competition for a spot at Loretta's?
I'm saying I know for a fact that results were sent I saw the emails and the correspondence. Yet he was still aloud to run the regional. The one I am aware of anyway.
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I'm saying I know for a fact that results were sent I saw the emails and the correspondence. Yet he was still aloud to run the...
I'm saying I know for a fact that results were sent I saw the emails and the correspondence. Yet he was still aloud to run the regional. The one I am aware of anyway.
Do you have a name? I'd be happy to check it out..
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I have no dog in this fight, and have no idea whether this rider had been able to officially change his rating. However, if you look at the below results taken from the mxsports website, you may see something that on the surface doesn't look quite right.

30+ B/C Freestone Regional 2012
1st #85 JEFFREY CAIN - SUZ DENHAM SPRINGS, LA 1st 1st 1st
2nd #29r AARON LINDSEY - YAM MACON, GA 2nd 2nd 2nd
3rd #17 ANDREW ALLISON - KAW COLLINSVILLE, TX 3rd 3rd 5th
4th #29 CHE ROTRAMBLE - KAW DECATUR, TX 4th 4th 6th

2008 Lorreta Lynns A Pro Sport
27th #33 MATTHEW WILLIAMS - HON LAURINBURG, NC 30th 29th 21st
28th #62 CHRIS FISHER - KAW ROSNAN, NC DNF 19th 23rd
29th #90 MATT MILLER - KAW BOONVILLE, NC 33rd 23rd 28th
30th #21 WILLIAM SHATRAU - KAW OSWEGO, NY 35th 21st 30th
31st #29 AARON LINDSEY - YAM MACON, GA 29th 30th 29th
32nd #16 TYLER WHARTON - HON PILOT POINT, TX 4th DNF DNF
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I have no dog in this fight, and have no idea whether this rider had been able to officially change his rating. However, if you look...
I have no dog in this fight, and have no idea whether this rider had been able to officially change his rating. However, if you look at the below results taken from the mxsports website, you may see something that on the surface doesn't look quite right.

30+ B/C Freestone Regional 2012
1st #85 JEFFREY CAIN - SUZ DENHAM SPRINGS, LA 1st 1st 1st
2nd #29r AARON LINDSEY - YAM MACON, GA 2nd 2nd 2nd
3rd #17 ANDREW ALLISON - KAW COLLINSVILLE, TX 3rd 3rd 5th
4th #29 CHE ROTRAMBLE - KAW DECATUR, TX 4th 4th 6th

2008 Lorreta Lynns A Pro Sport
27th #33 MATTHEW WILLIAMS - HON LAURINBURG, NC 30th 29th 21st
28th #62 CHRIS FISHER - KAW ROSNAN, NC DNF 19th 23rd
29th #90 MATT MILLER - KAW BOONVILLE, NC 33rd 23rd 28th
30th #21 WILLIAM SHATRAU - KAW OSWEGO, NY 35th 21st 30th
31st #29 AARON LINDSEY - YAM MACON, GA 29th 30th 29th
32nd #16 TYLER WHARTON - HON PILOT POINT, TX 4th DNF DNF
hah, well that answers that. i'm sure if it was brought to attention of DC, he'll snag it if someone else doesn't.
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6/7/2012 6:59am
That's very interesting. I'll pass it along and see what happens.. Doesn't hardly seem right, that's for sure.
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6/7/2012 7:24am Edited Date/Time 6/7/2012 7:29am
You guys need to chill out on this one. DC and Kip have everything they need. I protested Aaron not understanding the condition and after speaking with him face to face I believe he should be able to ride. There are others that should not. He had an injury that left him paralyzed in 1999. While he has been able to regain movement within a year or 2 after the accident, it has permanently affected his triceps muscles. I spoke to him face to face and discussed the situation at Freestone. You can see the affects the incident had on him still today. Truth is there are about 4 others besides Aaron that should be under question. I pretty much gave up on it after I found out how many there were just in our region... Ray Ruppert was granted an appeal so that leaves 2 or 3 to scrutinize.
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You guys need to chill out on this one. DC and Kip have everything they need. I protested Aaron not understanding the condition and after speaking...
You guys need to chill out on this one. DC and Kip have everything they need. I protested Aaron not understanding the condition and after speaking with him face to face I believe he should be able to ride. There are others that should not. He had an injury that left him paralyzed in 1999. While he has been able to regain movement within a year or 2 after the accident, it has permanently affected his triceps muscles. I spoke to him face to face and discussed the situation at Freestone. You can see the affects the incident had on him still today. Truth is there are about 4 others besides Aaron that should be under question. I pretty much gave up on it after I found out how many there were just in our region... Ray Ruppert was granted an appeal so that leaves 2 or 3 to scrutinize.
Ha, you protested him after beating him 1, 1, 1? So we have a B/C rider that protested a rider he beat that qualified for LL in '08 in the pro-sport class??
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6/7/2012 9:43am Edited Date/Time 6/7/2012 11:29am
Jeff Cain wrote:
You guys need to chill out on this one. DC and Kip have everything they need. I protested Aaron not understanding the condition and after speaking...
You guys need to chill out on this one. DC and Kip have everything they need. I protested Aaron not understanding the condition and after speaking with him face to face I believe he should be able to ride. There are others that should not. He had an injury that left him paralyzed in 1999. While he has been able to regain movement within a year or 2 after the accident, it has permanently affected his triceps muscles. I spoke to him face to face and discussed the situation at Freestone. You can see the affects the incident had on him still today. Truth is there are about 4 others besides Aaron that should be under question. I pretty much gave up on it after I found out how many there were just in our region... Ray Ruppert was granted an appeal so that leaves 2 or 3 to scrutinize.
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Ha, you protested him after beating him 1, 1, 1? So we have a B/C rider that protested a rider he beat that qualified for LL...
Ha, you protested him after beating him 1, 1, 1? So we have a B/C rider that protested a rider he beat that qualified for LL in '08 in the pro-sport class??
Wrong. I'm not involved in the protest at Freestone. I'm over the whole ordeal. It happened in April at the area qual. I didn't expect to go 1-1-1 but when I found out there were as many baggers in my class, I decided to completely change my training program. It worked and I improved dramatically between my area and regional. The others didn't. It's priority that I work harder than anyone else. It's not about who beat who anyway, its more about who is honest and who isn't. Far as I knew, he wasn't being honest. I fished out the details for myself and believe Aaron is good to go. Regarding the other baggers It's not fair to others that don't make it because a cheater took their spot.

Ima just sit back and see how it plays out. Lorettas bound. WERD
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Ruppert is the guy I am talking about and I don't see how he could be granted an appeal. They guy has been pro since he was 16 or so and literally has a full on track with lights and all in his backyard. So the way it looks you can pretty much just drop down for anything just like was said as long as you have some kind of story to go with it. DC did say he would get back to me. The way I look at it when there are so few spots to fill and so few out of each regional if you ever rode pro period, no matter what the circumstance, you should be out. These guys are always going to be up there taking the spots they don't deserve unless the message starts getting sent that its not aloud. Next thing you know RC will get to run it because he blew out his knee and put on a few pounds. Fair is fair and pro riders in the B/C class, ISN'T FAIR!!! I've got nothing against Ray or anyone else but this is crap to everyone that belongs in that class and isn't going to be at Loretta's. To me this sends the message to why even attempt it if this is how its going to go.
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I know Ray but don't know him well, he's always seemed like a super nice guy. I have to admit though that I'm SHOCKED he would enter the B/C. He's one of the fastest vet riders in the region.
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On 2nd thought I'm not so shocked. I think it's more of an issue of what an A rider really is. I know this opinion is probably not popular but I don't think he has any business being in the same class as RC, Reynard, etc. I honestly think a local expert rider is more of an A rider where a former license holder is more of a "AA" rider ( for lack of a better term). I know of several offroad series who have both an Expert and Pro, or A and AA. As long as the "AA" type riders are the ones filling the A class this class seems to be a more appropriate fit.
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I know Ray but don't know him well, he's always seemed like a super nice guy. I have to admit though that I'm SHOCKED he would...
I know Ray but don't know him well, he's always seemed like a super nice guy. I have to admit though that I'm SHOCKED he would enter the B/C. He's one of the fastest vet riders in the region.
At least he followed proper procedure. Can't say the same for the others...
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On 2nd thought I'm not so shocked. I think it's more of an issue of what an A rider really is. I know this opinion is...
On 2nd thought I'm not so shocked. I think it's more of an issue of what an A rider really is. I know this opinion is probably not popular but I don't think he has any business being in the same class as RC, Reynard, etc. I honestly think a local expert rider is more of an A rider where a former license holder is more of a "AA" rider ( for lack of a better term). I know of several offroad series who have both an Expert and Pro, or A and AA. As long as the "AA" type riders are the ones filling the A class this class seems to be a more appropriate fit.
He held a license though and had a national number under 300 at one point. Whatever they decide is how it will be I guess but it just really ruins what is claimed to be an equal playing field for all.
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My name is Aaron Lindsey and i did ride prosport in 2008. I got a bike on a saturday after not riding for 5 years on sunday i went to the last area and the week after to the regional. I wanted to go to LL because my cousin was going to try and qualify for the first time and I can not go to a race and just watch. I would rather get dead last or hurt then go and watch. If u have ever went to LL you know there is never a full gate in prosport if you send your money you qualify. I have not raced but once since then till i went to the area this year. I dont care what place I get at LL in any class a first is just as good as last because what place i come across the finish line is not important being on the starting line is the biggest win. I am paralyzed in most of my upper body so doing something I love is the most important thing. You can think what ever you want and i am fine with that. I heard I was disqualified from the area and that I needed to send the AMA a letter for my appeal so this is what I sent them.
Hello my name is Aaron Lindsey I received a letter saying that I cannot race the 30+B C. I would like to appeal to be able to race this class. I have not raced a motocross race since 2008 and I raced an area in Louisiana for my first race back. Racing is something I love to do and grew up doing I won Loretta Lynn's in 1993 on a 60. Winning this was something that was real special and probably the best thing in my life, best thing from racing by far. The reason I want to be able to race 30+B C is the worst thing I got from racing and that is I broke my neck.A broke neck is nothing really unless you damage your spinal cord. My injury could have been worse, at first I was paralyzed from the neck down for 2 months. I have a hole about the size of a dime in my spinal cord I am walking on less the 1/8 of an inch of spinal cord. Racing is something that means so much to me but is real hard because I am paralyzed in most of my upper body. I lost all my triceps in both arms, my pectoral muscles and 90% of the movement in my right hand. This makes it hard to ride and many ask why I ride in this shape. I have not even thought about racing till I was talking to a friend who is paralyzed from the waist down from racing that is in real bad shape now from bed sores. He told me on my 30th birthday about there being a 30+B C at Loretta's again and that I should race it. I started training and riding motocross again. I was going to try to do the 25+ too but after getting a 8th this weekend at my second race another area in Illinois it does not look real good. I am not sandbagging in this class being able to still ride in this condition is a blessing racing is even better. When I raced the area in Louisiana a kid I used to race with before I got hurt who I beat the second moto who knew what happened to me and what the condition I was racing in told me thanks for not giving up. This meant so much to me and if anyone else in this class knew my condition and what I was racing with would come to the same idea and not think I should be in another class. Being able to race 30+ would be great and I can respect any decision you come up with.

These are some pictures of the paralyzed parts of my upper body. The red mark on my chest is what happens when you over jump a jump and the chest hits the handlebars because of no triceps. I also will go to any doctor for a physical to show
my paralysis.

Thank you
Aaron Lindsey




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I'm going to sound like a dick saying this but its a bummer that you got hurt nobody wants to see a fellow rider go through that. At the same time though you still don't belong in the class. You rode at the highest level which means you belong there always no matter what in my opinion anyway. Just because you got hurt doesn't mean you or any other former pro should get to drop down and take a spot from somebody that has never been pro and will never be pro. This was a class designed for those people and it should stay that way. Its B/C not formerly A/B which is what it is right now. The way its going right now with the sandbagging going on in the class no C rider has a snowballs chance in hell of qualifying. Again just my opinion it is totally gnarly that you are still riding and I give crazy props to you for that. From what I have found out though its not MX Sports letting pros in its the AMA (go figure) letting everyone appeal and change their status back to B.
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So what you are saying is that anyone that has had a bump in their MX career they should be able to drop down a class?
You're not handicap and obviously you still have speed so why are you special???. You're using your accident to make people feel sorry for you, that's not right and bullshit if you are allowed to race in 30+ b/c. It also sounds like if you trained harder or earlier you probably could've made 25+. I had several severe injuries in a row in my youth and never once thought about dropping down to C class and still don't. My 30th birthday was only a month over the cut off date to race 30+ this year and I didn't even ponder the idea of trying until 2013. Rules are rules.

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gar47mx
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6/15/2012 4:30am Edited Date/Time 6/15/2012 4:30am
both you guys make very valid points and I agree with you. I seen Aaron ride many times before his accident and he was Pro level speed for sure. However, I've watched this class for the last few years and it's been very fair. I have two local friends who went and both did very very well. Neither had raced Expert a day in there lives. Both were as true an Amateur as one can be. Working full time and riding the AM class at local races when time allowed. The class is perfect for the regular amateur Vet guy. It fills a gap the Loretta Lynns program once had. My 2 cents
aaron29
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6/15/2012 4:47am
Good pic, I thought he was a good rider then but now I look up to him for not quiting and still ridding. I wish you were a doctor so I could pass a physical. I should have rode 25+ instead of 30bc is what you said. I guess you can't read because I did and didn't qualify. Getting lapped 3 times a moto at LL is ridding at the top level. A C rider does have a chance to win but will never win if they go there thinking they can't. I dont want anyone to feel sorry for me because it could have been alot worse. I do want you to remember the people who got hurt doing this that are paralyzed and try and contact them they shouldn't be forgotten.
weasel49
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6/15/2012 6:09am
I did read that and I read that you got 2nd at Gravity Alley in +25 and was also accepted as an alternate for the North Central Regional in +25. You probably shouldn't leave out the details on something that anyone can look up. In your letter you said you didn't want to go and get lapped 8 times. I bet in 2008 in Pro Sport you got lapped a couple times. Are you even going to the regional at MC Motopark? I'm guessing not..

In 2001 I broke my back right after I got top fives in 125B and 250B stock/mod classes at the regional. Ten months later I broke/dislocated my shoulder and had severe nerve damage, I had a complete dead arm for 7 months. After basically being injured for 2 years I came back and was getting smoked by guys I use to destroy but I never once thought about dropping down to C class so I could make it to LL.

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