Entry level MX'r around 4 grand? No way

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Edited Date/Time 5/31/2012 1:51am
No way possible seems to be heard all too often around here. Yet Honda now offers this dual sporter at $4499.00. Strip it down and put some knobbies on it Honda. Might be the perfect bike to bring some people back to the sport. You know, for fun. Not everyone needs or wants Eli Tomac's bike.

http://powersports.honda.com/2013/crf250l.aspx
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pitbike502 5/30/2012 9:16am
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just a new version of the xr.. and click a little further: 10 years after kawasaki's 110 intro and stellar 110L, we get hondas offering: a base model 110. Does look cool though!
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Dude 5/30/2012 9:21am
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Good idea. The frame/fork/brakes look capable for a C/D rider. Tanks a little big for road riding, but other than that, yea, feasible. Could have 40lbs off if you threw away the cams/valvetrain/timing chain and associated parts though.
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Highsider 5/30/2012 9:31am
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Dude wrote:
Good idea. The frame/fork/brakes look capable for a C/D rider. Tanks a little big for road riding, but other than that, yea, feasible. Could have 40lbs...
Good idea. The frame/fork/brakes look capable for a C/D rider. Tanks a little big for road riding, but other than that, yea, feasible. Could have 40lbs off if you threw away the cams/valvetrain/timing chain and associated parts though.
What are your other Vital user names?
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petrie141 5/30/2012 9:51am
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newmann wrote:
No way possible seems to be heard all too often around here. Yet Honda now offers this dual sporter at $4499.00. Strip it down and put...
No way possible seems to be heard all too often around here. Yet Honda now offers this dual sporter at $4499.00. Strip it down and put some knobbies on it Honda. Might be the perfect bike to bring some people back to the sport. You know, for fun. Not everyone needs or wants Eli Tomac's bike.

http://powersports.honda.com/2013/crf250l.aspx
Man, I love dual sports! That thing looks great! It weighs quite a bit more than a crf250r, nearly 100lbs. As was said before though, that could be reduced with a few easy alterations. Overall a great bike. I wonder why the price point is so low? It's significantly less expensive than the Yamaha comparison (WR250R) which starts at $6,590.

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Grieby54 5/30/2012 9:52am
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Dude wrote:
Good idea. The frame/fork/brakes look capable for a C/D rider. Tanks a little big for road riding, but other than that, yea, feasible. Could have 40lbs...
Good idea. The frame/fork/brakes look capable for a C/D rider. Tanks a little big for road riding, but other than that, yea, feasible. Could have 40lbs off if you threw away the cams/valvetrain/timing chain and associated parts though.
Like hell it looks capable for a C rider. Not a chance.
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burn1986 5/30/2012 10:04am
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It's crazy that Honda gave the new looks to the 250L and not to the CRF250R. IMO, the best bike for an up and comer is the CRF230. Heck, I want one of these for myself:

http://powersports.honda.com/2013/crf230f.aspx

This pic is from MXA 2012 test, the 2013 has a white rear fender (http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Honda/News/HONDA-CRF230-TEST-1287.aspx)

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DownSouth 5/30/2012 10:12am
5/30/2012 10:12am Edited Date/Time 5/30/2012 10:14am
Strange that the 250 is water cooled and has fuel injection while being $500 cheaper than the listed price for the carb'd/air cooled CRF230L. The 250 looks like a much better bike for less money.
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burn1986 5/30/2012 10:22am
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250 for the street, yeah, but for the dirt I think the 230 would be better. Besides, you could replace the 230 front fender with a 250ish one (you may have to do some finigglin).
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Bigfoot 5/30/2012 10:26am
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Great mount for a box-stock racing category.
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Justin314 5/30/2012 10:52am
5/30/2012 10:52am Edited Date/Time 5/30/2012 10:52am
Looks good.

However......this is just a thought, and maybe it's just me, but it would seem that having three 250cc models with a "CRF" designation (with this one a completely different bike than the R and X model, could pose a potential problem when it comes to getting spare parts. Of course this wouldn't apply to every consumer, but having worked in a dealership parts department, I've dealt with people almost on a daily basis who don't know what they have.
I've seen problems arise with the Yamaha WR250s, mainly when it comes to the R and X model when getting tires.
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Barrett57 5/30/2012 10:54am
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Dude wrote:
Good idea. The frame/fork/brakes look capable for a C/D rider. Tanks a little big for road riding, but other than that, yea, feasible. Could have 40lbs...
Good idea. The frame/fork/brakes look capable for a C/D rider. Tanks a little big for road riding, but other than that, yea, feasible. Could have 40lbs off if you threw away the cams/valvetrain/timing chain and associated parts though.
Highsider wrote:
What are your other Vital user names?
Im guessing charles bronson is one of them.
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burn1986 5/30/2012 10:55am
5/30/2012 10:55am Edited Date/Time 5/30/2012 10:56am
It doesn't sound like flarider or Voidmain (who both seemed okay).
twosmoke30 5/30/2012 11:02am
5/30/2012 11:02am
i'd much rather see a mild 2 stroke 200 back into play with full suspension for around that much, the next closes thing is the 6g husky 125/144
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mcopsey 5/30/2012 11:27am
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I'm shocked Newmann, this makes those 1/8 ton bikes look like feather weights.

DIMENSIONS
Rake 27°35' (Caster Angle)
Trail 113mm (4.4 inches)
Wheelbase 56.9 inches
Seat Height 34.7 inches
Curb Weight 320 pounds
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newmann 5/30/2012 11:28am
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twosmoke30 wrote:
i'd much rather see a mild 2 stroke 200 back into play with full suspension for around that much, the next closes thing is the 6g...
i'd much rather see a mild 2 stroke 200 back into play with full suspension for around that much, the next closes thing is the 6g husky 125/144
We all know that isn't happening from Honda. KTM could pull that one off.
twosmoke30 5/30/2012 12:10pm
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twosmoke30 wrote:
i'd much rather see a mild 2 stroke 200 back into play with full suspension for around that much, the next closes thing is the 6g...
i'd much rather see a mild 2 stroke 200 back into play with full suspension for around that much, the next closes thing is the 6g husky 125/144
newmann wrote:
We all know that isn't happening from Honda. KTM could pull that one off.
well no, not from honda but somebody else could easily do it
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carlosmacho 5/30/2012 12:29pm
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mcopsey wrote:
I'm shocked Newmann, this makes those 1/8 ton bikes look like feather weights. DIMENSIONS Rake 27°35' (Caster Angle) Trail 113mm (4.4 inches) Wheelbase 56.9 inches Seat...
I'm shocked Newmann, this makes those 1/8 ton bikes look like feather weights.

DIMENSIONS
Rake 27°35' (Caster Angle)
Trail 113mm (4.4 inches)
Wheelbase 56.9 inches
Seat Height 34.7 inches
Curb Weight 320 pounds
Exactly what I was going to say. This baby is a whale. Ok, reasonably shed maybe 20 lbs taking off batteries, and lights. There still be whales here. Can anyone figure out what the hp to weigth ratio on a 25 hp and 300lbs bike LOL
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Spartacus 5/30/2012 12:46pm
5/30/2012 12:46pm Edited Date/Time 5/30/2012 1:16pm
Me thinks todays utes aren't gonna be happy with a DT-1 with the lights stripped off like those stupid old farts were.

State of the art machinery or nuthin.

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newmann 5/30/2012 1:00pm
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mcopsey wrote:
I'm shocked Newmann, this makes those 1/8 ton bikes look like feather weights. DIMENSIONS Rake 27°35' (Caster Angle) Trail 113mm (4.4 inches) Wheelbase 56.9 inches Seat...
I'm shocked Newmann, this makes those 1/8 ton bikes look like feather weights.

DIMENSIONS
Rake 27°35' (Caster Angle)
Trail 113mm (4.4 inches)
Wheelbase 56.9 inches
Seat Height 34.7 inches
Curb Weight 320 pounds
carlosmacho wrote:
Exactly what I was going to say. This baby is a whale. Ok, reasonably shed maybe 20 lbs taking off batteries, and lights. There still be...
Exactly what I was going to say. This baby is a whale. Ok, reasonably shed maybe 20 lbs taking off batteries, and lights. There still be whales here. Can anyone figure out what the hp to weigth ratio on a 25 hp and 300lbs bike LOL
Should handle like it's on rails with all that centralized mass. And feel planted in the corners. Shocked
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Bob454 5/30/2012 2:29pm
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Dude wrote:
Good idea. The frame/fork/brakes look capable for a C/D rider. Tanks a little big for road riding, but other than that, yea, feasible. Could have 40lbs...
Good idea. The frame/fork/brakes look capable for a C/D rider. Tanks a little big for road riding, but other than that, yea, feasible. Could have 40lbs off if you threw away the cams/valvetrain/timing chain and associated parts though.
Never go full retard
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Tiki 5/30/2012 8:16pm
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Bigfoot wrote:
Great mount for a box-stock racing category.

They have a class in Brazil for these bikes. If you have ever had the chance to race them with your buddies all on equal bikes, you are one lucky mofo. I have been to races where they have an adult class for just these bikes. Turns were filled with laughter, frustration and I can say I have never had more fun on a bike. With a Works Shock and CR125 Forks, these bikes are even more fun. Box stock you cant find another bike more fun.
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PTECH 5/30/2012 10:04pm
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Fun bike, sure, MX'er no way in hell. You want an entry level MX'er by a 125 for a 1000 bucks and fix it as it breaks.
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Motodrew295 5/30/2012 10:19pm
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PTECH wrote:
Fun bike, sure, MX'er no way in hell. You want an entry level MX'er by a 125 for a 1000 bucks and fix it as it...
Fun bike, sure, MX'er no way in hell. You want an entry level MX'er by a 125 for a 1000 bucks and fix it as it breaks.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/mcy/3036207381.html

There is a good example. This would out perform the stripped down version of that for less than half the cost. Take the rest and invest in KTM stock.
Firebird77 5/31/2012 1:51am
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Looks cool. Its funny how its all glorified yet they are just hot rodded trail bikes.

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