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Great ride at Unadilla on other people's kit btw,shame he wasn't ay the MXdN ,Frossard,Philippaerts too.Paulin did well Bobby too considering the injury he'd had
Andrew Short would be in the mix but again, it comes down to the circuit. He'd be significantly stronger round an AMA track like Thunder Valley than he would on the GP scene.
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The tracks so far are very far from what Ken raced in the gp's. Also there is clearly more of a sprint mentality in the nationals.
I think the racing is excellent. Something they do is almost unreal, like Bagget jump and the speed and competitive spirit.
Easy tracks makes everyone look faster, and it looks more like a videogame where trhe gp's sometimes look more "enduro"
I thnik the title will come down to Tomac and Roczen. Bagget is obviously in there as well if he can stay consistent.
Here is a thread posted before the season started, its 5 pages long...
250 Outdoor predictions
I just did a quick count and of all fourteen replies from non Americans just THREE have Roczen pencilled in for the title, while NINE Americans have picked him!
Four non Americans - including the one Euro all you Americans love to hate 'Mccread' - have chosen other riders to win the Championship.
While another seven, shrewd Euro's suggest that it will be a very close battle between four or five different riders. Which is surely the most accurate prediction.
So, is it really the Euro's who have the high expectation of KR? Or is it as suspected by many of us, in fact American fans who have these expectations/fear of him and then jump around taking great pleasure when he falls everso slightly short?
All I know is, Roczen will always be up there. He got top 3 in every moto but 2 last year (not counting the last round on the 125). There were times last year when Tomac, Baggett and Barcia had absolute shocker days and failed to make the top five in either moto of the day. Of course, all three seem to have upped their consistency thus far.
Moto 3? same day...
Moto 3 Results:
1. Ryan Dungey (USA)
2. Steve Ramon (BEL)
3. David Philippaerts (ITA)
4. Jonathan Barragan (ESP)
5. Steven Frossard (FRA)
6. Josh Coppins (NZL)
***7. Ivan Tedesco (USA) ***
8. Max Nagl (GER)
9. Chad Reed (AUS)
10. Shaun Simpson (GBR)
Thats one MXdN, I've attended most in europe in the last 10years plus the 2007 Budds Creek. If you want me to reminise on anymore to backup "the most bullshit statement, with the possible exception of an occasional McCreadism, that I have ever heard."
And this is at the MXdN, where the strong GP countries like France and Belguim often have to leave top5 GP men at home.
Noone this side of the pond will ever question the speed of your top 3/4 guys in each class, even when one is a total asshat like Baggett. Just don't go giving it the old Ivan would win an MX1 title bullshit. He wouldn't. JS7 MIGHT, Dungey MIGHT, Millsaps, Short, Tedesco, none of these guys could finish a GP season in the top5. To say otherwise is to speak out of your ass.
...and cmess77 - We all love K-Dub! He's the man and we were deprived of seeing him at the MXdN so many times because of the commercial flying phobia he has...but he wouldn't top5 in a National or a GP season anymore my friend.
end thread
Now all I hear is a big back pedal by you guys. Ken did not live up to the hype and expectations of you euros telling us how he would dominate. It was not the one off Euro, but you guys. I admit you personally don't do that as much anymre and have done a big back pedal. But you use to. People who have been around remember. I sometimes think some of you sign up with a different name and stir the pot, but I have no proof
You read one stupid comment and assume that person speaks for the rest of us. That is and always has been the problem with internet forums.
Now we're throwing the "Euro-Hater" name around?
Really?
I'm not having it.
I'll be the 1st to recall KR -Crushing It- at the MXoN on his Suzuki...
Yet, now we're talkin about him having to settle in and Race HERE Full-Time & the Ubber-Euro-Fanboys are having to See Just How Fast it is Over-Here.
That's the ONLY point I was making.
Next, we can start screwing w/ the Orange Lovers that were claiming that KTM was going to Crrrrrrush EVERYONE...
Wow. The euros have found a new McCread.
last i checked he's sitting second in points..
ahead of both sx champs..
and podiumed both rounds so far..
keep it up KROC!!!
And you can always be counted on to haul out your "The U.S. and its fans are ignorant patriot haters" card.
You were doing it when I first joined this board and you are still doing it. I suspect you always will.
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The only riders with a legitimate claim to that tag are guys like Cairoli, Desalle, Pourcel, Herlings, Searle etc who are racing for a true WORLD MX CHAMPIONSHIP!
No doubt Stewart, Dungey, Bagget, Tomac or Barcia have the speed to win a world championship, but backing it up without all the home comforts, fly in--- fly out, a convenience store on every corner mentality of living in the USA is another matter.
Never underestimate all the travel, weather and language barriers the GP guys face on a weekly basis!
"Milsaps, Short, Tedesco, none of these guys could finish a GP season in the top 5"
"To say otherwise is to speak out of your ass."
What were you saying about insults again? You are a fucking tool. What are you, like 6 years old?
Baggett is an asshat, they way he reacted to Dean last year was ridiculous and petty.
To say Millsaps, Short or Tedesco would win the MX1 world title would be talking out of your ass, broken down to mean 'talking shit bro' if that helps the translation.
And this...
"Milsaps, Short, Tedesco, none of these guys could finish a GP season in the top 5"
"To say otherwise is to speak out of your ass."
Was actually this...
"Millsaps, Short, Tedesco, none of these guys could finish a GP season in the top5. To say otherwise is to speak out of your ass."
Don't try and chop my words to make me appear like an idiot you fool
Congratulations Euros, you now have a new King of the Euro Tools.
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