Compare Derrick Rose's (NBA/Chicago Bulls) with Ryan Villopoto's

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Getting local Chicago news right now it seems the stick-and-ball sports (at least basketball fans) are going 10x as crazy about D.Rose's torn ACL as us MX fans are about Villopoto's same injury. Are we really just that accustomed/aware that our sport is that much more dangerous that the injury really just seems like "part of the game" to us vs. the tragedy it appears to be to them?
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No comparison, Ryan will be back on top. It's a good thing he doesnt need those knees for blitzing hardwood
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Can we compare mine too? Woohoo



ACL is a nasty one and I won't be riding for at least 6 months Sad
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layinbody31 wrote:
Getting local Chicago news right now it seems the stick-and-ball sports (at least basketball fans) are going 10x as crazy about D.Rose's torn ACL as us...
Getting local Chicago news right now it seems the stick-and-ball sports (at least basketball fans) are going 10x as crazy about D.Rose's torn ACL as us MX fans are about Villopoto's same injury. Are we really just that accustomed/aware that our sport is that much more dangerous that the injury really just seems like "part of the game" to us vs. the tragedy it appears to be to them?
Pretty much. In moto, we all know that it's not IF, but WHEN. Whereas major injuries aren't common in hoops.

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jasonv43 4/28/2012 10:01pm
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Is it me or does it seem that the injuries in general are much worse then say anything before the 2000's. I just don't remember knees getting blown out as much or back's breaking, neck's breaking, etc., etc.....
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jasonv43 wrote:
Is it me or does it seem that the injuries in general are much worse then say anything before the 2000's. I just don't remember knees...
Is it me or does it seem that the injuries in general are much worse then say anything before the 2000's. I just don't remember knees getting blown out as much or back's breaking, neck's breaking, etc., etc.....
Wait for it.....here it comes.......WWWWaaait for it.............................................
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jasonv43 4/28/2012 10:22pm
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jasonv43 wrote:
Is it me or does it seem that the injuries in general are much worse then say anything before the 2000's. I just don't remember knees...
Is it me or does it seem that the injuries in general are much worse then say anything before the 2000's. I just don't remember knees getting blown out as much or back's breaking, neck's breaking, etc., etc.....
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Wait for it.....here it comes.......WWWWaaait for it.............................................
I can't wait any longer.
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jasonv43 wrote:
Is it me or does it seem that the injuries in general are much worse then say anything before the 2000's. I just don't remember knees...
Is it me or does it seem that the injuries in general are much worse then say anything before the 2000's. I just don't remember knees getting blown out as much or back's breaking, neck's breaking, etc., etc.....
JB 19 wrote:
Wait for it.....here it comes.......WWWWaaait for it.............................................
450's BRO.
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It's a bigger deal than RV's because in stick and ball sports the ACL is way more crucial than in MX. That's why the recovery time is so much longer for those guys and why a lot of times they never are the same.
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2thefront wrote:
It's a bigger deal than RV's because in stick and ball sports the ACL is way more crucial than in MX. That's why the recovery time...
It's a bigger deal than RV's because in stick and ball sports the ACL is way more crucial than in MX. That's why the recovery time is so much longer for those guys and why a lot of times they never are the same.
Agreed. Much worse for Rose than Villopoto in my opinion. Rose has to cut all over the court and he could be seriously affected by this.
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layinbody31 4/30/2012 7:53am
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Good points in here.

While the total injury isn't seen as such a terrible shocker to us, partly it's because the role that actual part of the body plays in each sport. Where in MX it's used less than in Bball, so injuring it has a greater effect to ones abilities post injury
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jasonv43 4/30/2012 8:18am
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I wonder how their year's would have went if Derrick and Ryan switched and Derrick rode dirt bikes and Ryan played basketball?
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layinbody31 wrote:
Good points in here. While the total injury isn't seen as such a terrible shocker to us, partly it's because the role that actual part of...
Good points in here.

While the total injury isn't seen as such a terrible shocker to us, partly it's because the role that actual part of the body plays in each sport. Where in MX it's used less than in Bball, so injuring it has a greater effect to ones abilities post injury
I don't think there is any part of the body that does not get used in MX or SX.
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layinbody31 4/30/2012 9:14am
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insane one wrote:
I don't think there is any part of the body that does not get used in MX or SX.
I agree, but the knees are not used AS MUCH in SX/MX as they would be in Bball
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2thefront 4/30/2012 9:15am
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layinbody31 wrote:
Good points in here. While the total injury isn't seen as such a terrible shocker to us, partly it's because the role that actual part of...
Good points in here.

While the total injury isn't seen as such a terrible shocker to us, partly it's because the role that actual part of the body plays in each sport. Where in MX it's used less than in Bball, so injuring it has a greater effect to ones abilities post injury
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I don't think there is any part of the body that does not get used in MX or SX.
That's not the point. The ACL is stressed a LOT more in basketball, football, baseball, soccer etc... than MX. It's way way more important to those guys.
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the difference is that RV can and will have a 100% recovery and be able to use his knee properly for his profession.

Derrick Rose, who knows. with the technology there is today, he should be ok. but these kind of injuries to basketball and football players can completely change their ability at their profession.

and to everyone saying that basketball fans are idiots, they are in every sport. even ours.
aFACEdismembered 4/30/2012 3:28pm
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The Bulls, and Rose by proxy, didn't win a championship 5 games early like Villopoto did.
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aFACEdismembered wrote:
The Bulls, and Rose by proxy, didn't win a championship 5 games early like Villopoto did.
Villopoto still lost a (chance at a) championship though.

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GuyB 4/30/2012 5:48pm
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I was told that the last ligament that Ryan Villopoto got was a "standard" one...and this time around he got one that was more heavy-duty.

I know...it sounds funny to say it, too.
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throttle77 4/30/2012 5:54pm
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Sounds like he got a patella graft instead of a hamstring graft. Dr. Mark knows all about this stuff.
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layinbody31 5/1/2012 7:18am
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GuyB wrote:
I was told that the last ligament that Ryan Villopoto got was a "standard" one...and this time around he got one that was more heavy-duty. I...
I was told that the last ligament that Ryan Villopoto got was a "standard" one...and this time around he got one that was more heavy-duty.

I know...it sounds funny to say it, too.
lol that is funny. Bio-engineering at work?
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GuyB wrote:
I was told that the last ligament that Ryan Villopoto got was a "standard" one...and this time around he got one that was more heavy-duty. I...
I was told that the last ligament that Ryan Villopoto got was a "standard" one...and this time around he got one that was more heavy-duty.

I know...it sounds funny to say it, too.
sounds pretty rediculous to me that he wouldnt have gotten the patella graft in the first place....

Only reason I could think of them doing it the way they did was in case he did tear it again, which he did, he would have the stronger ligament after the next surgery but that is taking a gamble in itself, I guess the doc was assuming he would tear it again and wanted to have the stronger ligament as a backup.

still don't know why they wouldnt have done the patella graft in the first place.
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Why is this even a debate? Rose's entire career depends on being able to cut and have quick feet. The big issue a torn ACL causes is making the knee unstable side to side. Guys with torn or even not ACLs can run, even ride and race without pain as long as the knee isn't twisted. It's when the knee is asked to support a lateral load that it buckles. For a stick and ball sport a guy's knee is his life blood. For an MXer it's just another joint that can get hurt but fixed.
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Shawn142 wrote:
Why is this even a debate? Rose's entire career depends on being able to cut and have quick feet. The big issue a torn ACL causes...
Why is this even a debate? Rose's entire career depends on being able to cut and have quick feet. The big issue a torn ACL causes is making the knee unstable side to side. Guys with torn or even not ACLs can run, even ride and race without pain as long as the knee isn't twisted. It's when the knee is asked to support a lateral load that it buckles. For a stick and ball sport a guy's knee is his life blood. For an MXer it's just another joint that can get hurt but fixed.
What a line of BULLSHIT that is!!!!! Evil
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Shawn142 wrote:
Why is this even a debate? Rose's entire career depends on being able to cut and have quick feet. The big issue a torn ACL causes...
Why is this even a debate? Rose's entire career depends on being able to cut and have quick feet. The big issue a torn ACL causes is making the knee unstable side to side. Guys with torn or even not ACLs can run, even ride and race without pain as long as the knee isn't twisted. It's when the knee is asked to support a lateral load that it buckles. For a stick and ball sport a guy's knee is his life blood. For an MXer it's just another joint that can get hurt but fixed.
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What a line of BULLSHIT that is!!!!! Evil
obvious troll is obvious
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Basketball's not dangerous at all.........

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They don't really compare. Derrick Rose's is way worse. Basketball players cut hard and move laterally all the time. MX riders don't. ACL is much more devastating in stick and ball sports than it is in MX.
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They don't really compare. Derrick Rose's is way worse. Basketball players cut hard and move laterally all the time. MX riders don't. ACL is much more...
They don't really compare. Derrick Rose's is way worse. Basketball players cut hard and move laterally all the time. MX riders don't. ACL is much more devastating in stick and ball sports than it is in MX.
I don't know I think it all comes down to training and muscle strength. The pro mx riders train much harder and lets face it the top level pro motocrosser is in better shape than a top level ball player. That has been proven!! The mx rider is constantly training doing all kinds of physical routines.. Just because the ball player can jump higher does not mean they can endore they amount of physicle punishment that a mx rider has trained for.!!!

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