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If you don't know, no one will be able to explain it to you.
"And yes Carlos, I'm so dumb I'll never have a good enough job to afford anything"
I will take your word for it. It seems like most 2 stroke fans complain about the price of 4 strokes as if they were poor and cannot afford them.
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But reason and sense doesn't always apply, and the world is far from perfect...
So how do you make some sort of 'technology restricted' class viable into the amateur ranks? Bikes that are still capable of doing all of the obstacles, yet as you said not necessarily top of the line technology. Maybe restricting the MSRP could serve to restrict the technology?
The key to growth and survival would be some sort of championship that the bike classification could feed, as well as AMA classes that would be recognized nationwide.
As you know, a lot of the 'top of the line' components have been in their same basic form for 20 or more years. Linkage, twin chamber forks, disc brakes, powervalves.... all old and proven technology. The R & D money has already been recouped.
I'm sure we're living in a dreamland just thinking about it, but I'll tell you what: when I go to tracks nowadays, I see a surprising lack of 20-something riders. I see kids and I see older guys like me who are either getting back into it or riding with their kids. The extra $$ hits the twenty-somethings hard, I've been there and even in my 20s I was hard pressed to be able to race even though we were running two strokes back then (90s). Now it would be impossible. That's what needs to be fixed.
Does your nephew read this site? Would he be offended?
People just want affordable fun bikes to make memories with their friends and family on the weekends.
The high prices are killing off the grass roots of the sport. Local tracks have to run 50 zillion class's to make up for the low turn out of riders, heck practice days draw more than race days anymore.
It really doesn't matter if its 2 or 4, it just seems bringing back the "Vintage" 2 strokes would be the quick and easy alternative. 99% of the people who go to local races couldn't ride an RM 250 to its full potential anyways.
Wanna know why guys like 4 strokes? Cause they make you feel like a hero. Feeling like a hero is fun.
Keep your 250F and the smile it puts on your face, its not about taking your ride from you and your hero feeling. It's about allowing those who can't afford the 250f and its maintenance an economical alternative that is competitive. Something the majority of people can work on by themselves.
This is about building a sport that is dwindling away slowly but surely. Without budget minded racers the sport will continue to loose riding spots because of low turnout and lack of interest in anything but practice days.
I would venture to say most people can get that hero feel from a new 250f or a 07 RM 250. The more people getting that hero feeling is the GOAL! If bringing back an affordable alternative brings in more people its GOOD for everyone hero.
2012 Husqvarna 125 CR. $5999 MSRP and comes with a 144 kit.
Annual inflation over this period was 2.90%.
Would one of you old timers please tell us what you paid for a top of the line race machine in '87?
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the problem...not them. In life it isn't the pitchers fault if i haven't learned to catch fastball...nope, quite the contrary. Yer nephew had to learn to be offended by the word...you can teach him how to not be offended....or something like that.
But the thumpers are much safer for AMA PRO level racing.
Four strokes are much more tractable, and much more forgiving.
With that said. The last time i looked, NASCAR fans weren't insisting that the top NASCAR drivers, race the same cars that you and I drive everyday.
Common sense goes a long ways.
- i used for my sight laps, then I broke out my slightly used ($2000) RM 250
(I had about 6 plus people come up and compliment me on the smoker)
the smell of pre-mix !
About the safety issue, common sense and a quick look at the injury list for AMA pro racing would tell a different story. The double displacement bikes have upped the game and have some pretty insane speeds which leads to them being somewhat less than forgiving. CC /CC, I would agree, double displacement not so much.Just my opinion though.
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