Coming from someone who's not a fan of the Alessis...

MotoChief Dos wrote:

Bro shriveled up like a little wee wee in 34 degree water. What a little bitch.

Outsider wrote:

He did? Didn't sound that way to me.

Highflier wrote:

The Alessi's are irrelevent...

5 or so years from now they will gone

BobbyM wrote:

dork got his ass handed to him... thanks for posting crybaby54.

Grieby54 wrote:

But fortunately, the Alessis will always have fans like you that are a real turn-off for everyone else in the sport. You're the type of patron...

But fortunately, the Alessis will always have fans like you that are a real turn-off for everyone else in the sport. You're the type of patron a restaurant or bar would turn down because you'd cause them to lose business.

Highflier wrote:

The Alessi's are irrelevent...

5 or so years from now they will gone

kongols wrote:

So, he didn`t really " make it". Bummer. Most pathetic thing here is Tony calling a blogger and trying to explain himself.

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

Is Howard Stern in the media? Is TMZ? I would say so. Maybe Im wrong. Brotocross never claimed to be a "journalist" or a traditional news...

Is Howard Stern in the media? Is TMZ?

I would say so. Maybe Im wrong.

Brotocross never claimed to be a "journalist" or a traditional news source. But he has routinely had the info that other sources dont.


Out of curiosity, what qualifies one to "be in the media" in this sport for that matter?


(oh, and for the record, my comments in my last two paragraphs about hell freezing over in the post you quoted were not directed at you. I should have been more clear)

Moto Soul Mag wrote:

Stern and TMZ are in the media by virtue of their huge audiences. If Stern was talking to 50 people he would not be in the...

Stern and TMZ are in the media by virtue of their huge audiences. If Stern was talking to 50 people he would not be in the media, but he's talking to millions every day.
Brotocross doesn't have that, but maybe relative to the microcosm of motocross he is huge.

Is there a difference between what Broto does compared to Racer X, TW, and Guy B? I think there is. But you raise an interesting point- what is the dividing line, and does it matter? Journalism is like the legal definition of porn- the lines are blurry, but you know it when you see it.

But generally I would say that being a real journalist requires some type of credential or training, some type of experience writing for a wide audience, a legitimate organization or professional business supporting you, and drawing income of some type of income from your writing.

Incidentally, has be come up with a bunch of scoops? I thought he was just funny. But i haven't read all his stuff.

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

Ive written for large newspapers and magazines with worldwide publication and Ive never had any formal credentials, education, or training in the field. Was I not...

Ive written for large newspapers and magazines with worldwide publication and Ive never had any formal credentials, education, or training in the field. Was I not part of the media?

Going to law school doesnt make one a lawyer. Going to journalism school doesnt necessarily make one a journalist.

Of course there is a difference between what Racer X, TW, and Guy B do compared to Brotocross, in fact, neither of those three that you mentioned do the same thing. But they are all part of the sports media.

And yeah, Brotocross has broken a story or two. But his real gems are the small quips he has when dishing dirt on a rider. For most people, I imagine they wont catch the joke or reference, but for those in the know there is actually a lot of truth hidden in his blog that a savvy fan would decipher. It's TMZ shit, but regardless, its stuff that the rest of the industry would never comment on. And maybe thats all his site is, "commentary"....but isnt that what Bill Simmons does on Grantland.com? Its just commentarty. And nobody is going to say that Simmons is not part of the media. Brotocross is is a cross between Howard Stern and Grantland within this sport IMO.

For those wondering why Matthes wasnt too nice to him on Pulp......its because he's everything that Matthes wishes he could be. Except that riders & mechanics generally dont like or respect Matthes (see some of Stroupes comments for a small example) because with Matthes, the motivation behind some of his smart remarks is from a different place. On the other hand, riders respect Brotocross even when he's bashing them (sans the Alessis) because unlike most this industry, his agenda (humor) is genuine and unfiltered.

The kids got writing talent and he has good sources for his info and (as evidence by the posting of that condemning phone conversation) he puts it all out there. I dont think he ever had any intention of settling his beef with the Alessi's (the beef is a staple of his product) and I dont think he really cares if people know who he is (he is smart enough to have kept it hidden if he reeeeally wanted too). It's all part of his schtick.

IMO, this whole incident has nothing to do with Tony Alessi. We all know these forums hate TA just as much as ever (Im a fan of TA and his boys BTW), this is more a case of a bunch of computards just rat packing on Brotocross in the same fashion that they all jumped all over Sondra a while back. The vitrol in these threads has nothing to do with the incident, it has to do with a bunch of talentless jealous haters just trying to kick a person while he's down. It happens to Bubba on the daily here. It happened to Sondra. And right now, the mob is just finally taking their long awaited shots at Eli Moore. But unlike TA, I highly doubt Brotocross is going to give a fuck or change his tune.

And people need to lay off of TA for fighting Mike's battles. He is Mike's personal manager. He's supposed to handle this shit for him. You'd do the same if he was your kid and/or client. Tony handled this situation in the best possible fashion one could have. Doesnt mean he isnt "trying too hard" but I dont fault Tony for trying. It's who he is. That phone call couldve gone a lot worse.



Oh, and FYI, Jason43, the whole 2012 incident thing doesnt happen til this December. It's supposed to be a slow buildup of crazy events. Lots of earthquakes (check), Milsaps out performing Bubba (check), and now... the forums coming to Tony Alessi's aid (check) are just more signs of the apocalypse hahahahahaha.

Highflier wrote:

The Alessi's are irrelevent...

5 or so years from now they will gone

kongols wrote:

So, he didn`t really " make it". Bummer. Most pathetic thing here is Tony calling a blogger and trying to explain himself.

BobbyM wrote:

almost a pathetic as stewarts year so far....

RichYox wrote:

How many of you POSER WANNABE PUSSIES that dish on the Alessis' have ever even pulled a holeshot??? let alone won the overall @ your local...

How many of you POSER WANNABE PUSSIES that dish on the Alessis' have ever even pulled a holeshot??? let alone won the overall @ your local track ??? I bet even TONY could smoke 99% of you.

kongols wrote:

So, he didn`t really " make it". Bummer. Most pathetic thing here is Tony calling a blogger and trying to explain himself.

BobbyM wrote:

almost a pathetic as stewarts year so far....

Sherwood wrote:

What's with your hate for Stewart?

dboivin wrote:

pretty accurate.

RichYox wrote:

How many of you POSER WANNABE PUSSIES that dish on the Alessis' have ever even pulled a holeshot??? let alone won the overall @ your local...

How many of you POSER WANNABE PUSSIES that dish on the Alessis' have ever even pulled a holeshot??? let alone won the overall @ your local track ??? I bet even TONY could smoke 99% of you.

BobbyM wrote:

dork got his ass handed to him... thanks for posting crybaby54.

Grieby54 wrote:

But fortunately, the Alessis will always have fans like you that are a real turn-off for everyone else in the sport. You're the type of patron...

But fortunately, the Alessis will always have fans like you that are a real turn-off for everyone else in the sport. You're the type of patron a restaurant or bar would turn down because you'd cause them to lose business.

RichYox wrote:

to all you spodes that bash the worlds best motocrossers (you know who you are and so do we) I challenge you to speak up and...

to all you spodes that bash the worlds best motocrossers (you know who you are and so do we) I challenge you to speak up and answer the following?

When was the last time you won your local overall? C class incliuded!

Bonus question: How many of YOU would challenge TONY to a 10 minute moto for some jack$ ???
(their gonna need the money to pay Mike his Outdoor bonus ! )

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

Is Howard Stern in the media? Is TMZ? I would say so. Maybe Im wrong. Brotocross never claimed to be a "journalist" or a traditional news...

Is Howard Stern in the media? Is TMZ?

I would say so. Maybe Im wrong.

Brotocross never claimed to be a "journalist" or a traditional news source. But he has routinely had the info that other sources dont.


Out of curiosity, what qualifies one to "be in the media" in this sport for that matter?


(oh, and for the record, my comments in my last two paragraphs about hell freezing over in the post you quoted were not directed at you. I should have been more clear)

Moto Soul Mag wrote:

Stern and TMZ are in the media by virtue of their huge audiences. If Stern was talking to 50 people he would not be in the...

Stern and TMZ are in the media by virtue of their huge audiences. If Stern was talking to 50 people he would not be in the media, but he's talking to millions every day.
Brotocross doesn't have that, but maybe relative to the microcosm of motocross he is huge.

Is there a difference between what Broto does compared to Racer X, TW, and Guy B? I think there is. But you raise an interesting point- what is the dividing line, and does it matter? Journalism is like the legal definition of porn- the lines are blurry, but you know it when you see it.

But generally I would say that being a real journalist requires some type of credential or training, some type of experience writing for a wide audience, a legitimate organization or professional business supporting you, and drawing income of some type of income from your writing.

Incidentally, has be come up with a bunch of scoops? I thought he was just funny. But i haven't read all his stuff.

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

Ive written for large newspapers and magazines with worldwide publication and Ive never had any formal credentials, education, or training in the field. Was I not...

Ive written for large newspapers and magazines with worldwide publication and Ive never had any formal credentials, education, or training in the field. Was I not part of the media?

Going to law school doesnt make one a lawyer. Going to journalism school doesnt necessarily make one a journalist.

Of course there is a difference between what Racer X, TW, and Guy B do compared to Brotocross, in fact, neither of those three that you mentioned do the same thing. But they are all part of the sports media.

And yeah, Brotocross has broken a story or two. But his real gems are the small quips he has when dishing dirt on a rider. For most people, I imagine they wont catch the joke or reference, but for those in the know there is actually a lot of truth hidden in his blog that a savvy fan would decipher. It's TMZ shit, but regardless, its stuff that the rest of the industry would never comment on. And maybe thats all his site is, "commentary"....but isnt that what Bill Simmons does on Grantland.com? Its just commentarty. And nobody is going to say that Simmons is not part of the media. Brotocross is is a cross between Howard Stern and Grantland within this sport IMO.

For those wondering why Matthes wasnt too nice to him on Pulp......its because he's everything that Matthes wishes he could be. Except that riders & mechanics generally dont like or respect Matthes (see some of Stroupes comments for a small example) because with Matthes, the motivation behind some of his smart remarks is from a different place. On the other hand, riders respect Brotocross even when he's bashing them (sans the Alessis) because unlike most this industry, his agenda (humor) is genuine and unfiltered.

The kids got writing talent and he has good sources for his info and (as evidence by the posting of that condemning phone conversation) he puts it all out there. I dont think he ever had any intention of settling his beef with the Alessi's (the beef is a staple of his product) and I dont think he really cares if people know who he is (he is smart enough to have kept it hidden if he reeeeally wanted too). It's all part of his schtick.

IMO, this whole incident has nothing to do with Tony Alessi. We all know these forums hate TA just as much as ever (Im a fan of TA and his boys BTW), this is more a case of a bunch of computards just rat packing on Brotocross in the same fashion that they all jumped all over Sondra a while back. The vitrol in these threads has nothing to do with the incident, it has to do with a bunch of talentless jealous haters just trying to kick a person while he's down. It happens to Bubba on the daily here. It happened to Sondra. And right now, the mob is just finally taking their long awaited shots at Eli Moore. But unlike TA, I highly doubt Brotocross is going to give a fuck or change his tune.

And people need to lay off of TA for fighting Mike's battles. He is Mike's personal manager. He's supposed to handle this shit for him. You'd do the same if he was your kid and/or client. Tony handled this situation in the best possible fashion one could have. Doesnt mean he isnt "trying too hard" but I dont fault Tony for trying. It's who he is. That phone call couldve gone a lot worse.



Oh, and FYI, Jason43, the whole 2012 incident thing doesnt happen til this December. It's supposed to be a slow buildup of crazy events. Lots of earthquakes (check), Milsaps out performing Bubba (check), and now... the forums coming to Tony Alessi's aid (check) are just more signs of the apocalypse hahahahahaha.

jasonv43 wrote:

Was actually referencing the crazy old many from last year (Harold Camping) that was claiming the world was going to end on October 21, 2011. But...

Was actually referencing the crazy old many from last year (Harold Camping) that was claiming the world was going to end on October 21, 2011.

But you're right, things are starting to pick up some steam with the Milsaps thing and now this incident with Eli Moore. Which by the way I've got nothing against this guy and hope he can continue to do what he does best. I personally don't go to his site much but have gotten some enjoyment from some of the things he's written.

FYI there is a remake of Total Recall coming out. This has to be another sign right?

jasonv43 wrote:

Was actually referencing the crazy old many from last year (Harold Camping) that was claiming the world was going to end on October 21, 2011. But...

Was actually referencing the crazy old many from last year (Harold Camping) that was claiming the world was going to end on October 21, 2011.

But you're right, things are starting to pick up some steam with the Milsaps thing and now this incident with Eli Moore. Which by the way I've got nothing against this guy and hope he can continue to do what he does best. I personally don't go to his site much but have gotten some enjoyment from some of the things he's written.

FYI there is a remake of Total Recall coming out. This has to be another sign right?

Ghost of Jabroni wrote:

I may be in the minority here but I think that this remake of Total Recall is blasphemous. All Hollywood does these days is make movies...

I may be in the minority here but I think that this remake of Total Recall is blasphemous.

All Hollywood does these days is make movies of tv shows, popular kids books, or remakes/sequels of already tried and true franchises (often ruining them in the process).

I loved the original Total Recall. I think they will fuck this up. They did with Total Recalls sequel (Minority Report).

jasonv43 wrote:

Arnold and his cheesy lines made that movie. I will probably go see 21 Jump Street though. And I did not know that Minority Report was...

Arnold and his cheesy lines made that movie. I will probably go see 21 Jump Street though. And I did not know that Minority Report was a sequel.

Interesting.