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hi ive just bought a 2005 rm85, i bought it as a non runner, turned out i had to do a full rebuild,new big ends, crank bearings, piston seals etc, the engine is tip top and im not a novice so i know its right on this side of things,the only one problem with the engine is that the exhaust valve governor is not present but i have spoken to suzuki and they tell me that this shouldnt cause the bike not to start
i have a decent spark, the right plug, timing is correct, fresh fuel, carb has been stripped and is spotless, reeds all clean etc, its getting fuel and a spark so why will it not even fire?
any ideas? im thinking its got to be something electrical like timing but its set to manafacturer settings?
the flywheel doers have a coulple of scuffs on it, would this do anything?
i have a decent spark, the right plug, timing is correct, fresh fuel, carb has been stripped and is spotless, reeds all clean etc, its getting fuel and a spark so why will it not even fire?
any ideas? im thinking its got to be something electrical like timing but its set to manafacturer settings?
the flywheel doers have a coulple of scuffs on it, would this do anything?
That much gas..... Sounds like a stuck or extremely rich float height to me.
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But yes filling the pipe with fuel will cause it to not start.
Try a new spark plug. Even though you are getting spark, little engines really like having a big, blue spark. Often times, that's all they need.
If your piston is touching the crank for any reason, you don't want it to start. Cause' if it does, you're just going to start the whole rebuild process aver again.
Allow me to pass on some sage wisdom given to me years ago by a wise old German fellow. If something won't function as its designed, there's always a reason. Find it. Don't just go get a bigger sledgehammer, and beat it into submission. That won't fix it. That comment preceded a whack across the back of the head, since my father was entitled to do such things. I'm almost 50, and in the 35 years I've been fixing things(not always the right way) I've never proved him wrong. Or forgotten his words. It's fair to say I've fixed a lot more than 11 bike engines. But there's always a chance to learn something new. Like starting a cart engine with a drill. Nonetheless, if it's an engine or mechanical, the same basic rules apply.
Here's my next piece of advice. Find out why that piston is hitting the crank. Maybe your parts guy sold you the wrong one. Possibly in the right box. It happens. I've been bitten by that too. Even better, get that 2 stoke mechanic to look at that motor. You're missing something. There's no shame in admitting defeat and getting help. (Ask Winston Churchill. It's the reason you don't speak German now). There IS shame in proceeding blindly and breaking more shit, while your ego prevents you from making rational decisions.
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And I have to say, he is 100% correct. It's a small bore two stroke. Very VERY simple. If it has fuel, spark, and compression, it will run. Pistons hitting other parts are not part of the equation. Tear it down, measure all the parts and replace the obviously wrong, incorrectly installed, or worn out parts.
A little off topic here but looking through youtube for crazy one off builds of rc cars, boats or planes. It shows the true craftsman in the world are still over in Europe. Cost effective yet some of the most unique craftsmanship I've ever seen.
oh and scooter you get a 17mm socket , stick a bolt in it the opposite way you normally would so the threaded part of the bolt sticks out where the ratchet would fit, stick it in a drill chuck and tighten it, that how you do it me old chum, personally i think youre a rude prick that probably sits indoors and wanks over youre mums panties, i came on here for advice, not sarcasm , im not going to get involved in a keyboard warrior argument so im not going to reply to anymore stupid replies xx
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