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I bought a new bike every year from 1980-1984! For 5 years I worked side jobs, went to school and saved to buy next year's bike.
This can't happen today unless your child is an eTrade baby...
I race with 6 guys. In 06 we were all on 4 strokes. Several bikes later and lots of “speaking with our wallets", we are ALL on 2 strokes now and have been since 07. Yes, several NEW bikes and not B or C riders. lol
I didnt want to bring it up before because I didnt have my birth certificate with a current paystub and utility bill with matching addresses and hi res dated photographic proof stapled to said documents all in triplicate, notarized and on file with the AMA and Vital to "confirm" these facts.
I know that all facts are equal, but I accept that my “facts” are less equal than the other facts since I haven’t been hanging out with the cool kids in the industry for a few years.
I'm excited
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We are not so smart
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Luxon 4-Post Bar Mounts
$189.95 - $239.95
People have to many other choices to spend their money, I cant imagine telling a guy in a cycle shop showroom that if he wants to ride new bikes with his son that its going to be 18k plus, equipment, trailer and weekend fee's.
Used 2 strokes is the only anwser at the moment, but if more manufacturers start marketing updated 2 strokes prices will come down because of competition. Ktm is the only game in town right now and they know it.
What's next, bias ply tires?
Anyway to back up what 2T42 said approx 20% - 30% at all of our local club races are now (new) twostrokes, from a base a couple of years ago of virtually zero (except us!). I don't think it's the 2t's cheaper purchase price, but rather, it's the potential season ending (for some) expense of a serious engine 'blow up' with the four stroke..
just in case...ya know
crf450 cost diff yr to yr
2005 6699
2006 6899 200
2007 6999 100
2008 7199 200
2009 7599 400
2010 8099 500
2011 8199 100
2012 8440 241
Totals 60133 1741
Avg 7516.625 217.625
crf450 cost diff yr to yr
2012 8440
2013 8640 200
2014 8740 100
2015 8940 200
2016 9340 400
2017 9840 500
2018 9940 100
2019 10180 240
Totals 74060 1740
Avg 9257.5 217.5
Pit Row
New non currents go for a grand less, and that's usually it.
Oh and grape you were right about one thing, more and more people aren't spending 10k on a new bike. They are walking out of the show room and spending it on other things or not spending it at all.
I say investment because at that price it is, and its an extremely bad investment. You will loose large amount of value and that is if it doesnt blow up or need service. Then try to get someone to take it off your hands. Most poeple just say no thanks and find another hobby or sport to take up their time on the weekends.
Yes, $8-9K for a new scoot is a lot of money; however, the price if you want one. PERIOD.
Yes, you CAN spend A LOT less. Example...used '06-'08 CRF450Rs are CHEAP and REALLY easy to "renew" due to the abundance of after-market goodies (I'd go with an '08 KX450, tho).
You could even build a YZ250 '06-08 for REALLY cheap, too! (My current Project of Choice...jus' to see what I can accomplish and for "How Much"?)
But, what I don't get is...WTF is ALL the Bitching about?
Shit costs money. Go figure.
When cheap 2 strokes are gone due to lack of manufacturing over the past few years the average joe will not take the risk of buying a 3-4k 4 stroke knowing they will have to put 2-3k into a rebuild.
Manufacturers need to put out an entry level bike that is affordable on both up front cost and maintenance or else the sport will continue to decline. Used 2 strokes is only the answer for these guys for so long then they will move on.
Its not really a 2 stroke vs 4 stroke debate everyone is having, its a debate about the future of the sport. Will it be an average joes sport or the sport of the luxury class who have money to burn Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with having tons of money but from what I have seen in my 35 years of riding is that those people dont like to get dirty and hurt riding a dirt bike.
lol
dude, 8K-9K-10K..its still too much!!
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