What’s SX payout for last place in 250 class?

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Edited Date/Time 3/15/2012 5:53am
How much does a privateer get paid to make the pro SX main and finish in the back of the pack in 250 class?

FEES:
Entry is $200?

PAYOUT:
Back of pack finish $?
Any other payouts in it for them besides sponsors and contracts?

How bout for 450 class?
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mxtech1 3/7/2012 10:52am
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Figure out how to use the seach bar. There have been several threads with complete lists of rider payouts 1st-last.
rustytrombone 3/7/2012 10:55am
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All payout info (SX & MX, 250 & 450) can be found here
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So a guy that finishes 5th in the 450 class every single round (the 5th best supercross rider in the entire world...think about that, there are only 4 people in the entire world-of all 6 billion people-that are better than him at supercross)...and he'll make $51K/year?

That's just plain embarrasing...

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lostboy819 3/7/2012 1:06pm
3/7/2012 1:06pm Edited Date/Time 3/7/2012 1:08pm
Titan1 wrote:
So a guy that finishes 5th in the 450 class every single round (the 5th best supercross rider in the entire world...think about that, there are...
So a guy that finishes 5th in the 450 class every single round (the 5th best supercross rider in the entire world...think about that, there are only 4 people in the entire world-of all 6 billion people-that are better than him at supercross)...and he'll make $51K/year?

That's just plain embarrasing...
Stewart finished 5th last week and I think he will make more than 51k tis year. Windham is in 5th in points and he will make more than 51k , hell Nic Wey made over a Million bucks either last year or the year before so the only thing that is embarrassing is that you don't have a clue how the riders make their money.
How come the we dont hear the riders complaining about the money only the dipshits on vital.
Riesenberg448 3/7/2012 1:37pm
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lostboy819 wrote:
Stewart finished 5th last week and I think he will make more than 51k tis year. Windham is in 5th in points and he will make...
Stewart finished 5th last week and I think he will make more than 51k tis year. Windham is in 5th in points and he will make more than 51k , hell Nic Wey made over a Million bucks either last year or the year before so the only thing that is embarrassing is that you don't have a clue how the riders make their money.
How come the we dont hear the riders complaining about the money only the dipshits on vital.
You obviously haven't talked to too many privateer guys, especially in the 250f class. There is a reason many of them are forced to ride the 450 class, where you can atleast afford to go racing by making the night show. A top 10 in the 250f class still doesn't pay crap if you don't have a team paying your expenses.
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So a guy that finishes 5th in the 450 class every single round (the 5th best supercross rider in the entire world...think about that, there are...
So a guy that finishes 5th in the 450 class every single round (the 5th best supercross rider in the entire world...think about that, there are only 4 people in the entire world-of all 6 billion people-that are better than him at supercross)...and he'll make $51K/year?

That's just plain embarrasing...
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Stewart finished 5th last week and I think he will make more than 51k tis year. Windham is in 5th in points and he will make...
Stewart finished 5th last week and I think he will make more than 51k tis year. Windham is in 5th in points and he will make more than 51k , hell Nic Wey made over a Million bucks either last year or the year before so the only thing that is embarrassing is that you don't have a clue how the riders make their money.
How come the we dont hear the riders complaining about the money only the dipshits on vital.
LOL...I never claimed to know how the riders make their money, nor do I put any value at all, on a person that doesn't make a living racing dirt bikes knowing where the riders make their money...I have far far far more important things to worry about, so no, its not embarrasing that I don't know how riders make their money, not at all. The fact that you think it is, is a cause for concern though (makes me curious as to the very limited perspective you are speaking from).

Back on topic, apparently you both missed my point entirely, and feel some inner burden to defend the sport for some reason that I don't understand and which doesn't make any sense (Does the sport really need someone to defend it? Did I hurt its feelings by making fun of its purse money? Okay, then why get all defensive about it?)....anyway, I'm basing that number ONLY on purse pay out...and its absolutely embarrasing that supercross (the absolute pinnacle of dirt bike racing) pays such a small amount of purse money to the riders.

Sure, some of the biggest names make far more than that...and don't even care about purse money...but that guy in 20th place in the main (the 20th best supercross racer in the entire world), pitting out of his pick up truck, HE cares about it...and it's embarrasing that he's only going to make $34K from purse money this year if he finished last in every main event...
Riesenberg448 3/7/2012 3:04pm
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Or maybe it is just simply embarrassing that the 20th place rider HAS to pit out of his pickup.

The problem is, the presentation of the sport is "big" but in reality, it's small. There isn't a lot of money to be put out, atleast not from industry companies. The promoters may have it, but the sponsors don't... yet.

What FELD does do a great job of doing though, is they make the sport appear bigger. That is a good thing and will continue to help bring in more outside sponsors that do have the money to support riders. Problem is, right now that money is only going to the front half of the field... err or even front 1/5 of the field.

If the sport can continue to grow, there will be more money coming in, but is riders pitting out of vans and pickups holding it back? I don't know.

I do think they could pay out better, but I also do commend FELD for helping promote the sport to new levels through their event presentation and TV package.
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That's a joke! Especially after so much bagging on the GP and Luongo for not paying anything. He should save himself the hassle and do the same pay just enough to buy gas
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10% off your next entry fee and a free AMA sticker for your van.
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2T42 wrote:
How much does a privateer get paid to make the pro SX main and finish in the back of the pack in 250 class? FEES: Entry...
How much does a privateer get paid to make the pro SX main and finish in the back of the pack in 250 class?

FEES:
Entry is $200?

PAYOUT:
Back of pack finish $?
Any other payouts in it for them besides sponsors and contracts?

How bout for 450 class?
Nothing..you pay them for being a loser and taking away track dirt on your bike...Whistling
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SX/MX is small potatoes in the world of motorsports and the payout is a great example of that. In europe it is even worse. A few people have the sport by the balls and have no reason to let go.
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lostboy819 wrote:
Stewart finished 5th last week and I think he will make more than 51k tis year. Windham is in 5th in points and he will make...
Stewart finished 5th last week and I think he will make more than 51k tis year. Windham is in 5th in points and he will make more than 51k , hell Nic Wey made over a Million bucks either last year or the year before so the only thing that is embarrassing is that you don't have a clue how the riders make their money.
How come the we dont hear the riders complaining about the money only the dipshits on vital.
Just like anything else it depends on where you are at in the food chain.
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That's a joke! Especially after so much bagging on the GP and Luongo for not paying anything. He should save himself the hassle and do the...
That's a joke! Especially after so much bagging on the GP and Luongo for not paying anything. He should save himself the hassle and do the same pay just enough to buy gas
But the GPs aren't an American event. Wink
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My question is does it pay more to be a top Arenacross guy or be a 15th-20th place 250 Supercross guy? I think the top couple Arenacross guys can be consistently in the 15-20 position in 250 Supercross. I bet if Supercross paid more, that's where they'd be. If the top Arenacross guys get paid more than 20th place in 250 SX, that's ridiculous. There are some who do both though, like Bowers.
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TDeath21 wrote:
My question is does it pay more to be a top Arenacross guy or be a 15th-20th place 250 Supercross guy? I think the top couple...
My question is does it pay more to be a top Arenacross guy or be a 15th-20th place 250 Supercross guy? I think the top couple Arenacross guys can be consistently in the 15-20 position in 250 Supercross. I bet if Supercross paid more, that's where they'd be. If the top Arenacross guys get paid more than 20th place in 250 SX, that's ridiculous. There are some who do both though, like Bowers.
The big reason, I think its easier to get a good team/ride if u are a top AX vs end of the pack SX. Having all your travel and bike fee's paid is huge in this sport!

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First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as a privateer in the 250 class and yes as some of you idiots would describe as a loser because he is in 10th to 20th in his heat races. However, for any of you rejects who think he sucks why don't you race him yourself for a gas card to the Toronto SX in a few weeks. He would gladly take your money and give you a whole new perspective on how fast those guys in the back really are.
All of these kids are MODERN DAY GLADIATORS, risking their lives to make money for the promoters. Josh Litchle even gave his last summer chasing a dream. How many broken bones, backs, or necks is it going to take for someone to do something to protect the riders. How many younger riders are sacrificing their childhoods and education and the chance to live the motocross dream. Brad Frace is in a wheel chair chasing this so called dream. Brad was fierce competitor who was right there with Bogle and Peters in the amateurs. If you think I am lying just look at the injury report and see for yourself. Someone needs to stand up for these kids, someone like Ricky, Chad, Jeff, Jeremy, and James. All of these guys have to be the voice for all of the riders (privateers) that can't speak up because they will be black balled.
Perspective into a weekend as a privateer. Start of by driving 19 hours to get to the track while sleeping in your van on the way to save money. Then you get placed in the back of the pits and have to walk twice as far to everything as you watch all of the guys in the rigs drive shining new rhinos around the pits. You go to sound check to have they rev your bike wideopen for 10 seconds to have them tell you that you fail. While you just watched a factory guy slipping on pipe after pipe, not even bolting them on. All of which passed and it seems they only need to rev their bike at 1/2 throttle for 1 second. Then you go to buy $120 tires set of tires and you are told that you can't run the same tire as the factory guys because you wouldn't like it. I am sorry but that should be the riders choice if they like it or not, and everyone should able to run the same tire. They you go out for practice and your track is rough and rutted, which effects your times. Well it is time for A practice and they groom the track completely, because I guess they need more of an advantage. Their equipment and media day track practice wasn't enough to beat the privateers lap times by 2 to 5 seconds. Now you have a crappy gate pick for the heat and you are so stressed out by the time 7pm rolls around it is amazing you can ride at all, not to mention against the best riders in the world. Then you have some JACKASS on the internet call you a loser and you are taking dirt from the track. Excuse me if I take offense to your remarks, but if you don't know what it is like to be PRIVATEER, you need to keep you mouth shut.
Record numbers of fans are going to watch Supercross, that means people like Feld are making more, hey share the wealth. A rider who is good enough to make the night show should be able to make enough money to get home on. Something needs to be done or our sport is going to lose alot more of the talented athletes (GLADIATORS) who fill stadiums accross the country to entertain us and make promoters money.
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NCProaction wrote:
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as...
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as a privateer in the 250 class and yes as some of you idiots would describe as a loser because he is in 10th to 20th in his heat races. However, for any of you rejects who think he sucks why don't you race him yourself for a gas card to the Toronto SX in a few weeks. He would gladly take your money and give you a whole new perspective on how fast those guys in the back really are.
All of these kids are MODERN DAY GLADIATORS, risking their lives to make money for the promoters. Josh Litchle even gave his last summer chasing a dream. How many broken bones, backs, or necks is it going to take for someone to do something to protect the riders. How many younger riders are sacrificing their childhoods and education and the chance to live the motocross dream. Brad Frace is in a wheel chair chasing this so called dream. Brad was fierce competitor who was right there with Bogle and Peters in the amateurs. If you think I am lying just look at the injury report and see for yourself. Someone needs to stand up for these kids, someone like Ricky, Chad, Jeff, Jeremy, and James. All of these guys have to be the voice for all of the riders (privateers) that can't speak up because they will be black balled.
Perspective into a weekend as a privateer. Start of by driving 19 hours to get to the track while sleeping in your van on the way to save money. Then you get placed in the back of the pits and have to walk twice as far to everything as you watch all of the guys in the rigs drive shining new rhinos around the pits. You go to sound check to have they rev your bike wideopen for 10 seconds to have them tell you that you fail. While you just watched a factory guy slipping on pipe after pipe, not even bolting them on. All of which passed and it seems they only need to rev their bike at 1/2 throttle for 1 second. Then you go to buy $120 tires set of tires and you are told that you can't run the same tire as the factory guys because you wouldn't like it. I am sorry but that should be the riders choice if they like it or not, and everyone should able to run the same tire. They you go out for practice and your track is rough and rutted, which effects your times. Well it is time for A practice and they groom the track completely, because I guess they need more of an advantage. Their equipment and media day track practice wasn't enough to beat the privateers lap times by 2 to 5 seconds. Now you have a crappy gate pick for the heat and you are so stressed out by the time 7pm rolls around it is amazing you can ride at all, not to mention against the best riders in the world. Then you have some JACKASS on the internet call you a loser and you are taking dirt from the track. Excuse me if I take offense to your remarks, but if you don't know what it is like to be PRIVATEER, you need to keep you mouth shut.
Record numbers of fans are going to watch Supercross, that means people like Feld are making more, hey share the wealth. A rider who is good enough to make the night show should be able to make enough money to get home on. Something needs to be done or our sport is going to lose alot more of the talented athletes (GLADIATORS) who fill stadiums accross the country to entertain us and make promoters money.
Respect to you and your boy and thanks for your post, a really informative read.

Just don't hold your breath if you're waiting for most of the people here to value anybody but the top 4 or 5 riders out there. Look at the crap that was poured on Zach Osborne a few years ago but after a few good results the same guy is now a hero. He's not changed just the perception here, so don't be too upset when morons here dismiss the aspiring guy's efforts - like you said the forum guys haven't a clue...
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NCProaction wrote:
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as...
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as a privateer in the 250 class and yes as some of you idiots would describe as a loser because he is in 10th to 20th in his heat races. However, for any of you rejects who think he sucks why don't you race him yourself for a gas card to the Toronto SX in a few weeks. He would gladly take your money and give you a whole new perspective on how fast those guys in the back really are.
All of these kids are MODERN DAY GLADIATORS, risking their lives to make money for the promoters. Josh Litchle even gave his last summer chasing a dream. How many broken bones, backs, or necks is it going to take for someone to do something to protect the riders. How many younger riders are sacrificing their childhoods and education and the chance to live the motocross dream. Brad Frace is in a wheel chair chasing this so called dream. Brad was fierce competitor who was right there with Bogle and Peters in the amateurs. If you think I am lying just look at the injury report and see for yourself. Someone needs to stand up for these kids, someone like Ricky, Chad, Jeff, Jeremy, and James. All of these guys have to be the voice for all of the riders (privateers) that can't speak up because they will be black balled.
Perspective into a weekend as a privateer. Start of by driving 19 hours to get to the track while sleeping in your van on the way to save money. Then you get placed in the back of the pits and have to walk twice as far to everything as you watch all of the guys in the rigs drive shining new rhinos around the pits. You go to sound check to have they rev your bike wideopen for 10 seconds to have them tell you that you fail. While you just watched a factory guy slipping on pipe after pipe, not even bolting them on. All of which passed and it seems they only need to rev their bike at 1/2 throttle for 1 second. Then you go to buy $120 tires set of tires and you are told that you can't run the same tire as the factory guys because you wouldn't like it. I am sorry but that should be the riders choice if they like it or not, and everyone should able to run the same tire. They you go out for practice and your track is rough and rutted, which effects your times. Well it is time for A practice and they groom the track completely, because I guess they need more of an advantage. Their equipment and media day track practice wasn't enough to beat the privateers lap times by 2 to 5 seconds. Now you have a crappy gate pick for the heat and you are so stressed out by the time 7pm rolls around it is amazing you can ride at all, not to mention against the best riders in the world. Then you have some JACKASS on the internet call you a loser and you are taking dirt from the track. Excuse me if I take offense to your remarks, but if you don't know what it is like to be PRIVATEER, you need to keep you mouth shut.
Record numbers of fans are going to watch Supercross, that means people like Feld are making more, hey share the wealth. A rider who is good enough to make the night show should be able to make enough money to get home on. Something needs to be done or our sport is going to lose alot more of the talented athletes (GLADIATORS) who fill stadiums accross the country to entertain us and make promoters money.
Awesome man, just get ready for all the "well if it's sucks so bad than find something else to make a living at" It's only a matter of time before some dickhead post that comment. Anyways its you guys that keep the show running. Privateers do get the shaft it seems.
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NCProaction wrote:
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as...
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as a privateer in the 250 class and yes as some of you idiots would describe as a loser because he is in 10th to 20th in his heat races. However, for any of you rejects who think he sucks why don't you race him yourself for a gas card to the Toronto SX in a few weeks. He would gladly take your money and give you a whole new perspective on how fast those guys in the back really are.
All of these kids are MODERN DAY GLADIATORS, risking their lives to make money for the promoters. Josh Litchle even gave his last summer chasing a dream. How many broken bones, backs, or necks is it going to take for someone to do something to protect the riders. How many younger riders are sacrificing their childhoods and education and the chance to live the motocross dream. Brad Frace is in a wheel chair chasing this so called dream. Brad was fierce competitor who was right there with Bogle and Peters in the amateurs. If you think I am lying just look at the injury report and see for yourself. Someone needs to stand up for these kids, someone like Ricky, Chad, Jeff, Jeremy, and James. All of these guys have to be the voice for all of the riders (privateers) that can't speak up because they will be black balled.
Perspective into a weekend as a privateer. Start of by driving 19 hours to get to the track while sleeping in your van on the way to save money. Then you get placed in the back of the pits and have to walk twice as far to everything as you watch all of the guys in the rigs drive shining new rhinos around the pits. You go to sound check to have they rev your bike wideopen for 10 seconds to have them tell you that you fail. While you just watched a factory guy slipping on pipe after pipe, not even bolting them on. All of which passed and it seems they only need to rev their bike at 1/2 throttle for 1 second. Then you go to buy $120 tires set of tires and you are told that you can't run the same tire as the factory guys because you wouldn't like it. I am sorry but that should be the riders choice if they like it or not, and everyone should able to run the same tire. They you go out for practice and your track is rough and rutted, which effects your times. Well it is time for A practice and they groom the track completely, because I guess they need more of an advantage. Their equipment and media day track practice wasn't enough to beat the privateers lap times by 2 to 5 seconds. Now you have a crappy gate pick for the heat and you are so stressed out by the time 7pm rolls around it is amazing you can ride at all, not to mention against the best riders in the world. Then you have some JACKASS on the internet call you a loser and you are taking dirt from the track. Excuse me if I take offense to your remarks, but if you don't know what it is like to be PRIVATEER, you need to keep you mouth shut.
Record numbers of fans are going to watch Supercross, that means people like Feld are making more, hey share the wealth. A rider who is good enough to make the night show should be able to make enough money to get home on. Something needs to be done or our sport is going to lose alot more of the talented athletes (GLADIATORS) who fill stadiums accross the country to entertain us and make promoters money.
Excellent post. Any pro athlete at this same level in any other sport is compensated well and protected for their sacrifice.

I have seen all this first hand at nationals and SX for years. I have helped a few along the way and am willing still. I have many thousands of dollars in helping a few over the last couple of years alone.
.....

My main reason for asking the original post was to bring light to some of this and gather some info as well. The Renner 125 thing started this last surge. My thoughts lean toward the two stroke side for personal reasons of course, but still the same scenario. A guy who is risking life and limb and IS extremely fast gets rewarded poorly or loses money unless he has the illusive team ride and all the contracts with the sponsors etc.

My thought was to take someone like Renner who can make the mains and have the "people" help him with all his expenses and put some icing on top with some incentives for mains and placing. I think we could make it more profitable for an non team guy to race a 2 stroke and come out with money in hand and a new fan base. Looks like it worked for him at Daytona because several people on Vital ponied up and now he is going to New Orleans as a result.

If we could come up with a plan for donations that equal more than the equivalent payout for the same finishes on a 250F I think we could get a racer like Renner to benefit and have a good time doing it as the “david” of the Goliath story. Americans love the underdog and we all know who is an underdog riding a 125/144 against the factory 250/267+F’s.
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First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as...
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as a privateer in the 250 class and yes as some of you idiots would describe as a loser because he is in 10th to 20th in his heat races. However, for any of you rejects who think he sucks why don't you race him yourself for a gas card to the Toronto SX in a few weeks. He would gladly take your money and give you a whole new perspective on how fast those guys in the back really are.
All of these kids are MODERN DAY GLADIATORS, risking their lives to make money for the promoters. Josh Litchle even gave his last summer chasing a dream. How many broken bones, backs, or necks is it going to take for someone to do something to protect the riders. How many younger riders are sacrificing their childhoods and education and the chance to live the motocross dream. Brad Frace is in a wheel chair chasing this so called dream. Brad was fierce competitor who was right there with Bogle and Peters in the amateurs. If you think I am lying just look at the injury report and see for yourself. Someone needs to stand up for these kids, someone like Ricky, Chad, Jeff, Jeremy, and James. All of these guys have to be the voice for all of the riders (privateers) that can't speak up because they will be black balled.
Perspective into a weekend as a privateer. Start of by driving 19 hours to get to the track while sleeping in your van on the way to save money. Then you get placed in the back of the pits and have to walk twice as far to everything as you watch all of the guys in the rigs drive shining new rhinos around the pits. You go to sound check to have they rev your bike wideopen for 10 seconds to have them tell you that you fail. While you just watched a factory guy slipping on pipe after pipe, not even bolting them on. All of which passed and it seems they only need to rev their bike at 1/2 throttle for 1 second. Then you go to buy $120 tires set of tires and you are told that you can't run the same tire as the factory guys because you wouldn't like it. I am sorry but that should be the riders choice if they like it or not, and everyone should able to run the same tire. They you go out for practice and your track is rough and rutted, which effects your times. Well it is time for A practice and they groom the track completely, because I guess they need more of an advantage. Their equipment and media day track practice wasn't enough to beat the privateers lap times by 2 to 5 seconds. Now you have a crappy gate pick for the heat and you are so stressed out by the time 7pm rolls around it is amazing you can ride at all, not to mention against the best riders in the world. Then you have some JACKASS on the internet call you a loser and you are taking dirt from the track. Excuse me if I take offense to your remarks, but if you don't know what it is like to be PRIVATEER, you need to keep you mouth shut.
Record numbers of fans are going to watch Supercross, that means people like Feld are making more, hey share the wealth. A rider who is good enough to make the night show should be able to make enough money to get home on. Something needs to be done or our sport is going to lose alot more of the talented athletes (GLADIATORS) who fill stadiums accross the country to entertain us and make promoters money.
4stroke4DWIN wrote:
Awesome man, just get ready for all the "well if it's sucks so bad than find something else to make a living at" It's only a...
Awesome man, just get ready for all the "well if it's sucks so bad than find something else to make a living at" It's only a matter of time before some dickhead post that comment. Anyways its you guys that keep the show running. Privateers do get the shaft it seems.
If you worked for a company that paid you way less than you thought you were worth and they put you in constant danger...would you keep working there?

Go ahead, call me a dickhead, but I wouldn't continue to work in that kind of environment.
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BR_HERO 3/13/2012 11:29pm
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Titan1 wrote:
So a guy that finishes 5th in the 450 class every single round (the 5th best supercross rider in the entire world...think about that, there are...
So a guy that finishes 5th in the 450 class every single round (the 5th best supercross rider in the entire world...think about that, there are only 4 people in the entire world-of all 6 billion people-that are better than him at supercross)...and he'll make $51K/year?

That's just plain embarrasing...
Yeah, the guys out there in both classes deserve more then that, add in costs and healthcare and that doesn't amount to much at all.
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honda907 3/14/2012 12:59am
3/14/2012 12:59am Edited Date/Time 3/14/2012 1:00am
NCProaction wrote:
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as...
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as a privateer in the 250 class and yes as some of you idiots would describe as a loser because he is in 10th to 20th in his heat races. However, for any of you rejects who think he sucks why don't you race him yourself for a gas card to the Toronto SX in a few weeks. He would gladly take your money and give you a whole new perspective on how fast those guys in the back really are.
All of these kids are MODERN DAY GLADIATORS, risking their lives to make money for the promoters. Josh Litchle even gave his last summer chasing a dream. How many broken bones, backs, or necks is it going to take for someone to do something to protect the riders. How many younger riders are sacrificing their childhoods and education and the chance to live the motocross dream. Brad Frace is in a wheel chair chasing this so called dream. Brad was fierce competitor who was right there with Bogle and Peters in the amateurs. If you think I am lying just look at the injury report and see for yourself. Someone needs to stand up for these kids, someone like Ricky, Chad, Jeff, Jeremy, and James. All of these guys have to be the voice for all of the riders (privateers) that can't speak up because they will be black balled.
Perspective into a weekend as a privateer. Start of by driving 19 hours to get to the track while sleeping in your van on the way to save money. Then you get placed in the back of the pits and have to walk twice as far to everything as you watch all of the guys in the rigs drive shining new rhinos around the pits. You go to sound check to have they rev your bike wideopen for 10 seconds to have them tell you that you fail. While you just watched a factory guy slipping on pipe after pipe, not even bolting them on. All of which passed and it seems they only need to rev their bike at 1/2 throttle for 1 second. Then you go to buy $120 tires set of tires and you are told that you can't run the same tire as the factory guys because you wouldn't like it. I am sorry but that should be the riders choice if they like it or not, and everyone should able to run the same tire. They you go out for practice and your track is rough and rutted, which effects your times. Well it is time for A practice and they groom the track completely, because I guess they need more of an advantage. Their equipment and media day track practice wasn't enough to beat the privateers lap times by 2 to 5 seconds. Now you have a crappy gate pick for the heat and you are so stressed out by the time 7pm rolls around it is amazing you can ride at all, not to mention against the best riders in the world. Then you have some JACKASS on the internet call you a loser and you are taking dirt from the track. Excuse me if I take offense to your remarks, but if you don't know what it is like to be PRIVATEER, you need to keep you mouth shut.
Record numbers of fans are going to watch Supercross, that means people like Feld are making more, hey share the wealth. A rider who is good enough to make the night show should be able to make enough money to get home on. Something needs to be done or our sport is going to lose alot more of the talented athletes (GLADIATORS) who fill stadiums accross the country to entertain us and make promoters money.
Wasn't there a kid from Ohio, James Eickel, that did speak up and he was black balled......

I know it was somebody from Ohio in the 90's and he tried to form a union or something......

Point is, he's telling the truth on all of this.........

Great post. wish what you said wasn't true......
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NCProaction 3/15/2012 5:53am
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NCProaction wrote:
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as...
First of all this is a subject near dear to my heart, with a son chasing his childhood dreams. He is struggling to make it as a privateer in the 250 class and yes as some of you idiots would describe as a loser because he is in 10th to 20th in his heat races. However, for any of you rejects who think he sucks why don't you race him yourself for a gas card to the Toronto SX in a few weeks. He would gladly take your money and give you a whole new perspective on how fast those guys in the back really are.
All of these kids are MODERN DAY GLADIATORS, risking their lives to make money for the promoters. Josh Litchle even gave his last summer chasing a dream. How many broken bones, backs, or necks is it going to take for someone to do something to protect the riders. How many younger riders are sacrificing their childhoods and education and the chance to live the motocross dream. Brad Frace is in a wheel chair chasing this so called dream. Brad was fierce competitor who was right there with Bogle and Peters in the amateurs. If you think I am lying just look at the injury report and see for yourself. Someone needs to stand up for these kids, someone like Ricky, Chad, Jeff, Jeremy, and James. All of these guys have to be the voice for all of the riders (privateers) that can't speak up because they will be black balled.
Perspective into a weekend as a privateer. Start of by driving 19 hours to get to the track while sleeping in your van on the way to save money. Then you get placed in the back of the pits and have to walk twice as far to everything as you watch all of the guys in the rigs drive shining new rhinos around the pits. You go to sound check to have they rev your bike wideopen for 10 seconds to have them tell you that you fail. While you just watched a factory guy slipping on pipe after pipe, not even bolting them on. All of which passed and it seems they only need to rev their bike at 1/2 throttle for 1 second. Then you go to buy $120 tires set of tires and you are told that you can't run the same tire as the factory guys because you wouldn't like it. I am sorry but that should be the riders choice if they like it or not, and everyone should able to run the same tire. They you go out for practice and your track is rough and rutted, which effects your times. Well it is time for A practice and they groom the track completely, because I guess they need more of an advantage. Their equipment and media day track practice wasn't enough to beat the privateers lap times by 2 to 5 seconds. Now you have a crappy gate pick for the heat and you are so stressed out by the time 7pm rolls around it is amazing you can ride at all, not to mention against the best riders in the world. Then you have some JACKASS on the internet call you a loser and you are taking dirt from the track. Excuse me if I take offense to your remarks, but if you don't know what it is like to be PRIVATEER, you need to keep you mouth shut.
Record numbers of fans are going to watch Supercross, that means people like Feld are making more, hey share the wealth. A rider who is good enough to make the night show should be able to make enough money to get home on. Something needs to be done or our sport is going to lose alot more of the talented athletes (GLADIATORS) who fill stadiums accross the country to entertain us and make promoters money.
4stroke4DWIN wrote:
Awesome man, just get ready for all the "well if it's sucks so bad than find something else to make a living at" It's only a...
Awesome man, just get ready for all the "well if it's sucks so bad than find something else to make a living at" It's only a matter of time before some dickhead post that comment. Anyways its you guys that keep the show running. Privateers do get the shaft it seems.
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If you worked for a company that paid you way less than you thought you were worth and they put you in constant danger...would you keep...
If you worked for a company that paid you way less than you thought you were worth and they put you in constant danger...would you keep working there?

Go ahead, call me a dickhead, but I wouldn't continue to work in that kind of environment.
Not a dickhead, because I couldn't agree with you more. I can tell you that with tears in my son's eyes we have had that very conversation. He tells me what will I do? I don't know how to do anything else? I have done this since I was 3 and I truly love riding. I just hate all the BS and how people treat me at this level. What would you tell your son? Hell I have already spent enough money over the years to have retired 4 times. He is 19 and is due for some good luck right?

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