Never seen so much dirty riding..

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2/19/2012 12:39pm
Only thing that was questionable was Stewart slamming into Bogle.

I finally watched the race, and frankly I'm not sure why RC and Fro were bagging on Stewart.
Looks to me that he was drifting wide and at the time of impact there was still room on the outside.
Seems to me that if the rider ahead of you is drifting into your line, you always have the option to slow down...
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2/19/2012 12:43pm
mjskier wrote:
[b]Only thing that was questionable was Stewart slamming into Bogle.[/b] I finally watched the race, and frankly I'm not sure why RC and Fro were bagging...
Only thing that was questionable was Stewart slamming into Bogle.

I finally watched the race, and frankly I'm not sure why RC and Fro were bagging on Stewart.
Looks to me that he was drifting wide and at the time of impact there was still room on the outside.
Seems to me that if the rider ahead of you is drifting into your line, you always have the option to slow down...
option aka common sense
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2/19/2012 1:05pm
RaceFace wrote:
How original.. Grow a pair, forget your tampons, have a midol, take up knitting. As I said to others, you are now much more of a...
How original.. Grow a pair, forget your tampons, have a midol, take up knitting. As I said to others, you are now much more of a tough guy after proclaiming that you watch SX now right? Grow a fucking brain, how about that? See a therapist and figure out why watching teenagers knock each other off their MX bikes makes you feel so manly. I thought this was called racing. That was an awesome battle Mookie and Bogle had, huh? I especially liked how his foot got wedged in the rear wheel. Oh, at must have made you feel so full of testosterone then, huh? Did you like watching Wharton get "manhandled" all over the track? I guess going full retard is what it is all about for some of you pinheads.

Before Reed crashed we were setting up to see an awesome race. About 10 times he could have pulled a Barcia on the fastest rider going right now and sent RV packing. Would that have been better than a 20 lap RACE where they make no contact? No, you prefer someone going over a berm on lap 10 or rolling to a stop with a punctured radiator. Now THAT is racing!!
PFitzG38 wrote:
You again!! What is it with you - me and these threads?? Dude you are sooo freeking wrong. I know this is a huge waste of...
You again!! What is it with you - me and these threads?? Dude you are sooo freeking wrong. I know this is a huge waste of my time but I'm bored so here's a little MX101 for ya. If Reedy could have pulled a move on Villo he most certainaly would have and 100% was going to. It was just to early. Heck he almost passed RV by mistake once it looked like. It was too soon and he knew it. He had him in the pressure cooker right where he wanted him. The way you do it is you show the guy a wheel every chance you get till he cracks or you get a chance to seal the deal.....the trick is to do it at the right time though otherwise the guy has time to come back and do it you. Thats why you didn't see him pull what you call a "Barcia" 10 times when it looked like he could have to you. If you don't think Reed would of got aggressive with RV if he was still being held up and the laps were winding down you have less moto understanding then you even display.

and whats with all the manliness references, teenager talk and fixation with the MMA that is in most of your posts mean?? If your gay no big deal, I just didn't know.
You are right RaceFace! These guys are punks and thugs with no honor. And THAT is why the sport, (And the country) is going to shit...
You are right RaceFace! These guys are punks and thugs with no honor. And THAT is why the sport, (And the country) is going to shit! If I'm wrong why were things so much better 20 years ago than they are now?
not as many classy guys as you?
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2/19/2012 1:24pm
mjskier wrote:
[b]Only thing that was questionable was Stewart slamming into Bogle.[/b] I finally watched the race, and frankly I'm not sure why RC and Fro were bagging...
Only thing that was questionable was Stewart slamming into Bogle.

I finally watched the race, and frankly I'm not sure why RC and Fro were bagging on Stewart.
Looks to me that he was drifting wide and at the time of impact there was still room on the outside.
Seems to me that if the rider ahead of you is drifting into your line, you always have the option to slow down...
Ummm. Maybe because he ended up on his ass? Doh!

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2/19/2012 1:28pm
Ask your mom.
She claimed it was a solid 4"....not to shabby bro
2/19/2012 2:08pm
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I can't believe these lites guys. I haven't seen that much dirty riding in a long time. Wharton being abused by everybody. Barcia making contact with...
I can't believe these lites guys. I haven't seen that much dirty riding in a long time. Wharton being abused by everybody. Barcia making contact with everybody looking for a takeout. Malcolm Stewart getting dirty. Durham getting dirty.

These guys need to learn to ride with a little respect. Unreal.
Shut it little girl. You are obviously a squid who gets that done to him on a fairly often basis, if you even ride.
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2/19/2012 2:23pm
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How original.. Grow a pair, forget your tampons, have a midol, take up knitting. As I said to others, you are now much more of a...
How original.. Grow a pair, forget your tampons, have a midol, take up knitting. As I said to others, you are now much more of a tough guy after proclaiming that you watch SX now right? Grow a fucking brain, how about that? See a therapist and figure out why watching teenagers knock each other off their MX bikes makes you feel so manly. I thought this was called racing. That was an awesome battle Mookie and Bogle had, huh? I especially liked how his foot got wedged in the rear wheel. Oh, at must have made you feel so full of testosterone then, huh? Did you like watching Wharton get "manhandled" all over the track? I guess going full retard is what it is all about for some of you pinheads.

Before Reed crashed we were setting up to see an awesome race. About 10 times he could have pulled a Barcia on the fastest rider going right now and sent RV packing. Would that have been better than a 20 lap RACE where they make no contact? No, you prefer someone going over a berm on lap 10 or rolling to a stop with a punctured radiator. Now THAT is racing!!
Thanks for making my point for me. If Reed pulls a Barcia when he should have, then Reed is celebrating a win, the points lead, and...
Thanks for making my point for me.

If Reed pulls a Barcia when he should have, then Reed is celebrating a win, the points lead, and momentum instead of getting his knee checked out, a hurting soul, and contemplating why he even does this shit.

He who hesitates, masturbates....er, I mean, loses. How's that for an original catch phrase?
Maybe some out there are true Pros who "get it". The Lites guys should pay attention to the vets out there in the 450 class and how they don't need to slam dance non-stop. Once again, last lap is different than 8th lap. Dungey vs. Weimer is okay being last lap. Also noticed both Hansen this year and Barcia last year toned it way down with the big boys.

Reed Tweet:
Not gona lie felt great to be apart of a 2 rider run away love racing with @ryan_villopoto2 u know your going to get good ole fashion racing
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2/19/2012 2:43pm
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Malcom's move was the only one that was more about being stupid than anything else. But I did love Bogle's slap attempt after he got up...
Malcom's move was the only one that was more about being stupid than anything else. But I did love Bogle's slap attempt after he got up! He wasn't intimidated by anyone and raced hard against everyone. This kid is for real. Other then this one move Stewart's), I thought the 250 class was awesome racing all night long. BTW, Stewart looked great and was super fast too. Too bad he took himself out.

To me Bogle is the story of the night. Who thought he was going to be that competitive?
I agree!
Everyone's intitled to their opinion, but how can anyone who saw that bone-head move say Malcome wasn't STUPID???
Well..The heat of the action..happened in about a 10th of a sec..would he take the pass back..hell yes..did he want to win..hell yes..Do things happen fast on a race track?..

We get one of the best races in a long damn time and some of you guys bitch like old women...

Malcom did this and..and Barcia did that....waaaaaShocked
2/19/2012 2:50pm Edited Date/Time 2/19/2012 2:53pm
RaceFace wrote:
Maybe some out there are true Pros who "get it". The Lites guys should pay attention to the vets out there in the 450 class and...
Maybe some out there are true Pros who "get it". The Lites guys should pay attention to the vets out there in the 450 class and how they don't need to slam dance non-stop. Once again, last lap is different than 8th lap. Dungey vs. Weimer is okay being last lap. Also noticed both Hansen this year and Barcia last year toned it way down with the big boys.

Reed Tweet:
Not gona lie felt great to be apart of a 2 rider run away love racing with @ryan_villopoto2 u know your going to get good ole fashion racing
No worries RaceFace. Ive always enjoyed reading your posts.


But I just dont agree here. That same pro who you quoted and apparently "gets it" wouldnt think twice about taking out a rival...ie: Bubba. He's tried in the past (Vegas) and what about Atlanta last year? Reed knows how to play dirty and will do it when necessary.

It's only a 8 race series for the SX2 guys and 7 legitimate contenders from the looks of things. There's no time to be messing around. Any guy you can cost a race by taking out or pushing around significantly increases your odds of winning the title. The SX2 guys have shorter races as well.

Each lap and opportunity is magnified by 25% just because of the shorter race. Another 50% because of the short season. And again magnified due to the unusual number of legit contenders.

Reed doesnt have to be that desperate because prior to his injury, it was shaping up to be a two horse race between him and RV since TC is out, Bubba is lost, and Dungey is content with the scraps off the table. And theirs still a ton of 450 season left. So of course Reed is going to play "respectful" with RV currently. But lets not kid ourselves, RV isnt playing the "respectful" game, he TOOK that win. His epic pass on Reed in SD could have been a lot worse had Reed not been so savvy.

If Dungey waits til the last race to get dirty with RV, it will be too late. He's already had his chances this year and passed them up. It may bite him in the ass at some point. Although, Im not discrediting Dungey's season long strategy. It's a good one. It's proven itself to work. I have all the respect in the world for the kid.

As for your other examples of guys who have toned it down on the 450s...Hansen has a good deal going. He doesnt need to race for wins nor does he want too. And BamBam? Didnt Barcia almost wipe out Dungey in one race? Yes he did. But youre right, the 450 guys are a lil more relaxed. Thats what happens when you have an established role in the sport and have collected a few paychecks over your career. We cannot expect the same patience out of the younger guys and nor should we. There are plenty of "nice guys" pitting out of their dads box trailer at the races.

If being a "True Pro" means playing nicely, then what do you call Weimer's situation? He's been getting punked all year long by your vets. If he wants to keep his job he better stop acting like a "true pro" before some young punk comes and takes his gig. That's racing. There's no crying in baseball.
2/19/2012 4:37pm
This just in, the riders will now have lanes assigned to them and will be disqualified for leaving their lane. An anonymous spokesman for the AMA said this "we gotta keep the computards happy some way". Future tracks will be based on this model
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2/19/2012 5:12pm
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This just in, the riders will now have lanes assigned to them and will be disqualified for leaving their lane. An anonymous spokesman for the AMA...
This just in, the riders will now have lanes assigned to them and will be disqualified for leaving their lane. An anonymous spokesman for the AMA said this "we gotta keep the computards happy some way". Future tracks will be based on this model
I like it!
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2/19/2012 5:20pm
Ask your mom.
Bob454 wrote:
She claimed it was a solid 4"....not to shabby bro
4" Diameter. :-)
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Wow! How many times a day do you guys trip on your tampon string? Lol this place is crawling with crybabies. How many of you tools really have raced, I have been doing this for the better part of 28 yrs and I can remember watching dirty racing back in the 80's. It is what is and will always be unless the AMA puts a stop to it. Go play badmitten how ever the fuck you spell it.Blink Blink
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The only one really dirty in my mind was Stewart's on Bogle. Completely cut across and cleaned him out. I would definitely remember that if I were Bogle.
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2/21/2012 9:23am
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wow... you have sand in you virgina... dude its motocross!
I guess RV has sand in his vagina, too.Wink Check the Pulp MX Show
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I'd expect the lites racing to be a bit more aggressive than the 450's.

These are young studs trying to make their way, and a name for themselves in a sport where factory rides are drying up. If you don't win at the 250 level, it's damn tough getting a decent spot in the big bike class.

"Most" of the 450 riders have been around for a while, and understand what's going on.

Looks to be good, hard, fun racing so far. Hope they can stay healthy, as well as putting on a great show.
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2/22/2012 5:41pm
Does ProMed post here?

Heres my signature quote over on MotoNews:



ProMed wrote:

Quote: My great-great grandfather always said that only a butt pirate would call any motocross pass dirty.
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2/22/2012 6:28pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2012 6:44pm
Oh my god..

Why are people so gay? Yes, "gay". All the time, "He did this, he's a dirty racer. I hate him and therefore all of the moto world."

Grow up!

Never heard of "rubbing is racing", or was I the only one who found the east lites races the best races of the season?

Literally, anyone who finds a block pass 'dirty', or in anyway 'disrespectful' has never even raced. You're telling me that at the opener of the season, with all the spotlights on you, you wouldn't pull out anything or everything for a better position? Judgments are made at season openers and there's a lot of pressure and emotion around it. Hence why the most mellow kid in the pits slapped Malcolm Stewart! (haha!)

Enough of this, it's ridiculous. Call it 'un-professional' or whatever, but motocross is motocross for a reason. If you don't want to see contact or take outs, or even the occassional fight, I suggest you find another sport. (Badminton, perhaps?)

Complete OTT brake checks, with the look back etc, can be classed as 'dirty riding' but the rest of it as all good in my books.

These guys didn't take no sh*t:

https://youtu.be/ymuj8WNtmvQ


David Bailey: "This is the best racing we've seen..." "This is what the sport is missing.." - FACT!! Wink

https://youtu.be/OrdWPer2Xqc

Todd Harris: "The best racing we've seen all year."

Brownie: "We banged a few times, [...] it's just racing.."

Ryno: "We both started bumping and ramming eacother, but yunno' that's racing. There'd have to be something wrong with us if we didn't"

So don't start off because Barcia took a few guys out, Durham got Wharton and Mookie and Bogle got all heated. Things get blown out proportion, compliments of fools like you. Just let that sh*t fly..
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2/22/2012 8:22pm
barsia is a punk that can dish it out but cant take it ... he screwed with that french guy at bercy and then ran like a lil bitch when the guy came after him ,, he is a chicken shit
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2/22/2012 8:35pm
sc961 wrote:
I'd expect the lites racing to be a bit more aggressive than the 450's. These are young studs trying to make their way, and a name...
I'd expect the lites racing to be a bit more aggressive than the 450's.

These are young studs trying to make their way, and a name for themselves in a sport where factory rides are drying up. If you don't win at the 250 level, it's damn tough getting a decent spot in the big bike class.

"Most" of the 450 riders have been around for a while, and understand what's going on.

Looks to be good, hard, fun racing so far. Hope they can stay healthy, as well as putting on a great show.
lots of truth here...the 450 class is a traveling circus where everyone knows each other and has spent "time" together and there is a certian respect. Most of them are all friends... The 250 class is not like that as much...trying to make name for self is exactly whats going on.
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2/22/2012 8:42pm
all's fair in love and war....and especially MOTOCROSS/SUPERCROSS
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2/23/2012 7:41am
barsia is a punk that can dish it out but cant take it ... he screwed with that french guy at bercy and then ran like...
barsia is a punk that can dish it out but cant take it ... he screwed with that french guy at bercy and then ran like a lil bitch when the guy came after him ,, he is a chicken shit
Says the little bitch sitting behind his keyboard !
2/23/2012 7:51am
barsia is a punk that can dish it out but cant take it ... he screwed with that french guy at bercy and then ran like...
barsia is a punk that can dish it out but cant take it ... he screwed with that french guy at bercy and then ran like a lil bitch when the guy came after him ,, he is a chicken shit
"Ran like a bitch"? Got a link to this story?
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2/23/2012 8:37am
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I take back my original statement. I rewatched the race and overall it was pretty clean racing. Durham just hit that last jump wrong that swung...
I take back my original statement. I rewatched the race and overall it was pretty clean racing. Durham just hit that last jump wrong that swung him into Wharton. Barcia made a clean pass on Durham. Only thing that was questionable was Stewart slamming into Bogle.

I got caught up in the moment so overall pretty good clean racing.
Dude, you backed down, but you had RV in full support. Listen to the Pulpmx Show
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2/23/2012 8:44am
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only bad pass attempt was mookie. that was boneheaded move. rest were awesome and fair play. leave a window open, guys were taking it tonight. made...
only bad pass attempt was mookie. that was boneheaded move. rest were awesome and fair play. leave a window open, guys were taking it tonight. made the west coast races look really weak.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS!
2/23/2012 8:55am
I have to get my eyes checked out. I watched the same race and all I could focus on was the great aggressive racing in the 250f sx main event.
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2/23/2012 4:40pm
barsia is a punk that can dish it out but cant take it ... he screwed with that french guy at bercy and then ran like...
barsia is a punk that can dish it out but cant take it ... he screwed with that french guy at bercy and then ran like a lil bitch when the guy came after him ,, he is a chicken shit
Hallzilla wrote:
Says the little bitch sitting behind his keyboard !
hey dickzilla im sure barcia love having a sorry ass bitch to stick up for him..... a bitch for a bitch
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barsia is a punk that can dish it out but cant take it ... he screwed with that french guy at bercy and then ran like...
barsia is a punk that can dish it out but cant take it ... he screwed with that french guy at bercy and then ran like a lil bitch when the guy came after him ,, he is a chicken shit
Hallzilla wrote:
Says the little bitch sitting behind his keyboard !
hey dickzilla im sure barcia love having a sorry ass bitch to stick up for him..... a bitch for a bitch
Hey tboneintheass, It must suck try to make a comeback, and completely Fail, Just like your pro riding career ?

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