What was the oddest mechanical failure you've had during a race?

EastFlorida
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Edited Date/Time 2/12/2012 9:52am
For me it was 1980 at a track called Burnt Hickory in Dallas GA.

I was racing my 1980 YZ 125G and as I was running down a longer straight, the engine bogged and died as I was WFO. I kicked and kicked and couldn't get it to start. My Dad came over and helped me push it back to the pits. We kicked and kicked with no results. We pushed it down the pit road trying to bump start it with no success.

We packed up and went home. I checked spark - Good. I checked fuel - Good. WTH?! I pulled the head off and didn't see anything. I rotated the engine and as the piston went down, I saw a grove in the cylinder. Huh?

Pulled the jug off and found a perfect grove in the piston and cylinder with no other signs of damage.

Well, I took the cylinder in to be bored - honing wasn't enough - and ordered the next over sized piston and rings.

A few days later I put it all back together again and it starts on the first kick. I'm smiling to myself as it idles while warming up when all of a sudden - it locks up solid! SHIT! What's going on?

I pull out the kick starter and I can't push it down. The beast is locked up big time.

I pull the head - nothing.

I pull the cylinder - nothing.

What is going on here?

The crank won't rotate and there is no damage to the head or cylinder...

I get out the magnifying glass and see something wedged between the crank and the case. I take a small drift and I'm able to tap it loose and it falls into the bottom end.

Now, I've had to pull the engine from the frame and I can hear the metal something rolling around in the bottom end. I turn the engine upside down and a piece of metal falls out.

It was the head of one of the screws for the reeds! The damn head had broken off, gone through the reeds and caused the initial damage to the piston and cylinder. It must have fallen down into the bottom end and been bouncing around when I started the bike after the new bore and top end.

I was really lucky that I didn't have a repeat of the first failure. After removing the screw head, I put it back together and everything was fine.

I've never seen or heard of anything like this before or since...
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newmann
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2/9/2012 7:25pm
Had a ring locater pin pop out of a stock oem cast Honda piston. Not pretty what that tiny piece of metal can do!

Oldest kids 04 CRF250 shredded the cam chain tensioner and plugged the oil filter. Topend ran dry welded everything together. Never seen such a disaster althought the repair bill appeared all too familiar from when my 01 YZ250F dropped a valve at speed.
2/9/2012 7:25pm
Roost put a hole in my fuel line. It wasnt really a failure I guess because the bike finished the race, I noticed gas pouring out when I put it on the stand.
jndmx
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2/9/2012 7:29pm Edited Date/Time 2/9/2012 7:31pm
All on the same 2006 YZ 125:

Snapped the powervalve link, that little flat bar type connector to open the powervalve. Snapped in half, inside the case.

Push rod connector plate for the clutch, where it runs along the side of the case bent....twice. Had to have a piece fabbed in to keep it from bending out.

Broke the airbox boot right off where it goes into the engine intake.........sucked in dirt and sand for 2 laps and grenaded, crank, bottom end....the works
ocscottie
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2/9/2012 7:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/9/2012 7:39pm
This one was such a bummer, '84 at Argyle Park, i banged a killer holy:



Had a lead this big still on the 1st lap



Lap 3 i was pinned WFO down a straight, coming into a corner hit a breaking bump and she locked up solid. Got home and tore it apart and not only did it blow the lower rod bearing, but the rod actually stretched and ovalized the bottom bearing hole so bad that the piston hit the head and fully locked it up. Ended up also having to replace the whole crank.

@EastFlorida: I also had something similar to you on my Pilot, screw came out of the reed block and got sucked through the motor, the screw left a perfect indentation on the top of the piston. never seized or locked up, and i actually was able to nurse it through the 1st moto, but anytime i went past 3/4 throttle it would garble, piss and moan, that was one frustrating moto!!

Luckily i had TONS of spares and was able to put in my spare cylinder and new top end in between motos, came back and won moto 2, went 4-1 for 2nd o/a and that ended up probably saving my title run that season.

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2/9/2012 8:10pm
jndmx wrote:
All on the same 2006 YZ 125: Snapped the powervalve link, that little flat bar type connector to open the powervalve. Snapped in half, inside the...
All on the same 2006 YZ 125:

Snapped the powervalve link, that little flat bar type connector to open the powervalve. Snapped in half, inside the case.

Push rod connector plate for the clutch, where it runs along the side of the case bent....twice. Had to have a piece fabbed in to keep it from bending out.

Broke the airbox boot right off where it goes into the engine intake.........sucked in dirt and sand for 2 laps and grenaded, crank, bottom end....the works
I had a Powervavle link snap on me 2 weeks ago,
mrquick
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2/9/2012 8:23pm
Broke the countershaft ( that holds the front sprocket) off flush with the case....front sprocket with a part of the shaft and the c-clip was still in the chain.It happened after landing off a double.First time ever seeing this happen.
motocross523
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2/9/2012 8:28pm
My R & D flex jet bracket broke and the screw unspun from carb and the long flex wire got pulled into my front sprocket and got jammed.
SL91
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2/9/2012 8:35pm
Gas tank mounts broke and my tank came off in mid-air over a jump spraying gas all over me. It was a 1979 Can-Am mx5 250, and it was just one of many weird things that happened to that (albeit fast) piece of junk.
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2/9/2012 8:46pm Edited Date/Time 2/9/2012 8:47pm
My main jet came loose and bounced around in the bowl on my KX-500. The bike ran, but not well.
2/9/2012 8:52pm
bigborefan wrote:
My main jet came loose and bounced around in the bowl on my KX-500. The bike ran, but not well.
This happened to me on my cr250 too, ran like shit. I couldn't figure out why it was okay off bottom and then just fell off its face after 1/2 throttle
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2/9/2012 8:53pm
Gas Tank came of of my '82 KX125 going up the Freeway at Carlsbad (Top Mount broke off)...got some banners & put it back on.
yz763
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2/9/2012 8:55pm
mrquick wrote:
Broke the countershaft ( that holds the front sprocket) off flush with the case....front sprocket with a part of the shaft and the c-clip was still...
Broke the countershaft ( that holds the front sprocket) off flush with the case....front sprocket with a part of the shaft and the c-clip was still in the chain.It happened after landing off a double.First time ever seeing this happen.
I was borrowing my friends 2000 KX125 and it did the same thing. I landed off of a 1-2 foot sand drop off in the national forest and the bike came skidding to a halt. I had no clue what was going on because it didn't make any noise and the motor was still running. I figured the chain snapped then I looked a little closer and sure as shit it sheared the counter shaft off at the seal right behind the sprocket..
Deetsmx
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2/9/2012 8:58pm
Had a rock hit my hydraulic clutch (the part on the engine) on an 03 ktm sx250 and leaked all the fluid out. That wasn't a bike you wanted to ride without a clutch, thing was a rocket when it came on the pipe. Also had a seat bracket break and the seat came off at the transworld industry cup this year while battling with Ward so that was a bummer. Ive also had my rear axle nut come loose and it threw the chain although I'm thinking that one was my mechanics (uncle) fault.
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2/9/2012 9:02pm
I had the grommet on my airfilter (where the bolt goes thru) come apart and get lodged up against the needle in the carb. Bike was held wide open.
gharmon
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2/9/2012 9:03pm
How about my sons mechanic (that would be me) forgot to tighten the nut on the front wheel of his CR85 about 3/4 years ago after fixing a between-the-motos flat tire. My son had taken 2nd in the 1st moto and was leading the second moto by a big lead and this would have been his first ( and still til this point) and only #1 place trophy. On his 4th of 5 laps I don't see him anymore. Then I spot the emt's headed over. Guess what happen? Yep, bolt backed out and fork turned and he was over a double on a long straight. That kid was skinned from asshole to elbow. We laugh at this now days. I still feel so guilty that he has never gotten that first place trophy.
tbanks
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2/9/2012 9:07pm
Never had a bunch of odd mechanicals. I used to foul spark plugs at the starting line all the time and I soon became a pro at changing a spark plug in just under 50 seconds lol.

Oddest for me has to be my front brake locking up. Roost created a hole in the res on my bars, and my front brake keep going in and out. After noticing it was fading I pulled a hand full of front brake and my front brake actually worked for a brief moment. However that brief moment sent me into a endo because I slammed on them so hard. To this day I'm still unsure of what happened mechanically, but after the crash the front brakes were gone for good.
Rooster
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2/9/2012 9:20pm
I had the fuel line between the crab and the tank come off once.

Thankfully no fires, but no gas either, so the race was done.
Matthes
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2/9/2012 9:39pm
I'm wrenching for Kelly Smith at Binghamton 2001 and he's in 5th and looking good. One of his better rides all year actually when he pulls off because his bike is running like crap. I check it out on the track, don't see anything obvious and send him back out. A lap later he pulls in and calls it a moto.

Turns out his choke had unscrewed from the carb. A Keihin flat-slide carb. So weird, I'd never touched it or unscrewed it ever. Just backed out and cost him a good finish. After that, I always put a wrench on them to check.
BobbyM
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2/9/2012 9:42pm
While racing at sandhill rancher my leg fell off and got caught under my footpeg which I promptly ran
over causing me to wad up. I wearing sweats that day and they naturally follow my leg tumbling
down the track leaving my ass naked in the dirt..literally since I don't wear underwear. Scared the
shit out of the enter too...the leg, not my huge appendage. Smile
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2/9/2012 9:45pm
From Mr. Peabody's wayback machine, I was racing my Phantom and the engine just stopped running. Like hitting the kill button. Got home, tinkered, pulled off the ignition side and the flywheel fell on the floor with about an inch and a half of crank still in it.
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2/9/2012 9:58pm
DNF'd at Budds Creek first moto in vet class on the RM250. Engine just died.
Got towed all the way back to the pits by an ATV and figured the engine was toast. After cussing for a bit, look things over and notice the spark plug had backed out and fallen out.

Screw in new spark plug, race the second moto. Crazy thing was first moto was 9 am and second moto 4 pm. Lotta sittin round that day.
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2/9/2012 9:59pm
For me it was 1980 at a track called Burnt Hickory in Dallas GA. I was racing my 1980 YZ 125G and as I was running...
For me it was 1980 at a track called Burnt Hickory in Dallas GA.

I was racing my 1980 YZ 125G and as I was running down a longer straight, the engine bogged and died as I was WFO. I kicked and kicked and couldn't get it to start. My Dad came over and helped me push it back to the pits. We kicked and kicked with no results. We pushed it down the pit road trying to bump start it with no success.

We packed up and went home. I checked spark - Good. I checked fuel - Good. WTH?! I pulled the head off and didn't see anything. I rotated the engine and as the piston went down, I saw a grove in the cylinder. Huh?

Pulled the jug off and found a perfect grove in the piston and cylinder with no other signs of damage.

Well, I took the cylinder in to be bored - honing wasn't enough - and ordered the next over sized piston and rings.

A few days later I put it all back together again and it starts on the first kick. I'm smiling to myself as it idles while warming up when all of a sudden - it locks up solid! SHIT! What's going on?

I pull out the kick starter and I can't push it down. The beast is locked up big time.

I pull the head - nothing.

I pull the cylinder - nothing.

What is going on here?

The crank won't rotate and there is no damage to the head or cylinder...

I get out the magnifying glass and see something wedged between the crank and the case. I take a small drift and I'm able to tap it loose and it falls into the bottom end.

Now, I've had to pull the engine from the frame and I can hear the metal something rolling around in the bottom end. I turn the engine upside down and a piece of metal falls out.

It was the head of one of the screws for the reeds! The damn head had broken off, gone through the reeds and caused the initial damage to the piston and cylinder. It must have fallen down into the bottom end and been bouncing around when I started the bike after the new bore and top end.

I was really lucky that I didn't have a repeat of the first failure. After removing the screw head, I put it back together and everything was fine.

I've never seen or heard of anything like this before or since...
seen this once on a 2001 cr250.
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2/9/2012 10:03pm
jndmx wrote:
All on the same 2006 YZ 125: Snapped the powervalve link, that little flat bar type connector to open the powervalve. Snapped in half, inside the...
All on the same 2006 YZ 125:

Snapped the powervalve link, that little flat bar type connector to open the powervalve. Snapped in half, inside the case.

Push rod connector plate for the clutch, where it runs along the side of the case bent....twice. Had to have a piece fabbed in to keep it from bending out.

Broke the airbox boot right off where it goes into the engine intake.........sucked in dirt and sand for 2 laps and grenaded, crank, bottom end....the works
I had a Powervavle link snap on me 2 weeks ago,
yamaha swears that stock engines never do this and that it was bent in a top end job fyi.
tobz
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2/9/2012 10:04pm
left the plastic bag in the airbox from cleaning it....makes so many symptoms that mimic other things.
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2/9/2012 10:06pm
My Dad decided to shoe horn a Kawasaki 90 engine into my 1972 Yamaha 60 Mini Enduro. I would always pull the holeshot but the thing was so hard to ride. We finally put a longer swing arm and laid down the shocks. But one day,the power was too much. It wrung all the spokes out of the rear wheel. It started bucking me up and down as the spokes started to fail. Each lap I would come around and look to my Dad and he would just hold out his right hand and turn it like a throttle,telling me to keep on going. The bike started bucking so bad that it almost threw me off so he finally pulled me off the track and gave me a big hug. Smile
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2/9/2012 10:16pm
I was in a tight 3 point battle for seasons sole high point overall and trophy at my home town TT track in Nor Cal. I had just won the 125 heat, but in the open class I lost the front landing into a right turn while leading on the last lap. My CZ refused to start, so I pushed it back to the pits. At that time I was riding out of Ryan Villopoto's Grandfather's shop, Eureka Cycles and Accessories out of Eureka, CA. Fred and another mechanic friend from Action Yamaha were trying to get that 400 to run. I raced the trophy dash and main on the 125 and finished 2nd to the rider I had the lead on making it just a 1 point lead going into the final open main where we had our best battles that season. Both Fred and Dennis were clueless on what was keeping that CZ from running, it had spark, it was getting gas and would fire but die. We'd drain the crank change the plug, but nothing. Well my race was up next and we're pushing it all around in the pits trying to make it come to life and then my race was pulling up to the line. I put the beast up on the milk crate and a half dozen of us just stared in disbelief at the devil machine. As my class reved on the line I saw my chance at that season trophy disappear I fucking kicked that peice of shit off the stand.
Several weeks before I had put one of those new snake pipes on, it dumped the exhaust straight into the ground in front of the rear brake pedal and as I stared at the belly of that beast laying on its side I saw that the exhaust was jammed with dirt! Fred frantically dove for a screw driver and started gouging the dirt out of that stinger/silencer, several others ran to the line to try and hold the race as I pulled a Dungee and tried to gather my attitude and get into race mode. Of course that smoker was loaded up and once she fired from another push it smoked out the pits as I raced to the line. This was a flag start and I was also friends with the starter Bob Bell. He gave me more than the 2 minute limit holding up the start and from the far outside as soon as the CZ cleaned her guts out Bob finally threw the flag. Me and my adrenaline pulled a huge holey and I never looked back. I got that trophy, the trophy girl and possibly the best night of my life!
In 2009 when Ryan pounded his own dirt plug into his 450's silencer (at Atlanta?) from a wreck I knew immidiately what his problem was and was screaming at RV & Williamson threw the TV, a personal flash back of 1976... somewhat ironic.
2/9/2012 10:19pm
Forgot to cinch down the handlebar bolts before a race at Sears Point back in the mid 70s, went off a downhill jump wide open 4th gear and when I landed the bars collapsed straight down towards the gas tank and I face planted right into the tank. Did I mention that back then everybody wore open faced helmets? I was lucky to walk away with only two chipped teeth,a bloody nose and a lot of embarrassment. Whistling
Moto Soul Mag
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Friday wrote:
My Dad decided to shoe horn a Kawasaki 90 engine into my 1972 Yamaha 60 Mini Enduro. I would always pull the holeshot but the thing...
My Dad decided to shoe horn a Kawasaki 90 engine into my 1972 Yamaha 60 Mini Enduro. I would always pull the holeshot but the thing was so hard to ride. We finally put a longer swing arm and laid down the shocks. But one day,the power was too much. It wrung all the spokes out of the rear wheel. It started bucking me up and down as the spokes started to fail. Each lap I would come around and look to my Dad and he would just hold out his right hand and turn it like a throttle,telling me to keep on going. The bike started bucking so bad that it almost threw me off so he finally pulled me off the track and gave me a big hug. Smile
That's awesome. Never give up!
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2/9/2012 10:46pm
I was racing the supermini class at Oat Field up in NorCal. They have a pretty big step up that's up hill and the track is super loamy so it was pretty tough to jump. I was racing against Ryan Morais at the time and he was hitting this thing like it was nothing, so I felt like I had to jump it to even stay with him.

Well I cased it really hard two or three laps in a row. The right hander after it had a longer down hill double that is kind of flat on the landing.

I land off of that thing and my bike makes a weird noise, the engine seemed like it was revving more then it should have been.

I hit the whoops right after that and it does the same thing. So a turn later there is this big table top that launches you pretty high but has a pretty steep transition on the face. I hit the face of it and almost fall off the back of the bike.

The damn frame broke right underneath the steering stem!!!! Antifreeze was pouring out and it was a big smoke trap. I hop off and the bike is wide open since the throttle cable got stretched and luckily I shut it off before the thing blew up.

Got a brand new frame from Yamaha. And sold it right after that.

Ryan crushed everyone like he normal did but rode by to see if I was alright after the moto.
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2/9/2012 11:06pm Edited Date/Time 2/9/2012 11:07pm
I was riding a friends 82 cr 125 pinned 5th gear first bump I hit the front axle broke in half had a huge get off and walked away just cut and sore without a doubt the hardest crash of my life and very lucky.

Racing a LACR GP I went in hard in a bowl turn the front end locked up sending me over the bars when I picked up the bike the front tire had rolled off the rim and the tube was still Inflated!! it looked like a cartoon wheel had to pop the tube to move the bike!

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