Is It The Yamaha ?

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chrisbuehler 1/19/2012 10:21am
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Are you seriously starting another fuking thread about this? go back in your hole...

dumbgeon please GuyB...
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Don't disrespect Rupert. Everyone already knows that you are an asshole without you trying so hard.
He cant hear you, he's too busy swinging from Bubba's nuts
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carlosmacho 1/19/2012 10:28am
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Few say it out loud, but everywhere you go, the back rooms, the alleys, the trusty woods, people are asking - " James, what THE HELL...
Few say it out loud, but everywhere you go, the back rooms, the alleys, the trusty woods, people are asking -

" James, what THE HELL is going ON ? Is it the Yamaha ? "

I'm not subscribing to the Yamahauler conspiracy, I believe that he can win on the backward-engined

contraption, it does seem apparent that he had less face-to-face with the terrain on the other bikes

though. Opinions please ? Take off your 1992 AXO jerseys and come out swingin' !
Could be the Yamaha. I am going to blame it first on poor training or sickness for the first two rounds. He booted one of the best trainers in the business, then RV picked him up. So not riding the nats has to have some effect. In the last race interview he was sweating like a pig (yes I know pigs don't sweat) and he said he felt bad. So he could be sick. He also appeared to slow down in the middle of the first race then picked it up again.

I think we are going to need a few more races to see if it is NOT fitness/illness. Then you can start pointing your finger back to the bike again... or perhaps the tires. Or perhaps RV IS THE Kwisatz Haderach ( the next RC) Smile
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CrashMaster 1/19/2012 10:30am
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James was a BEAST on a Kawi... please,please get off that blue bike get back too his roots instead of just chasing the money, get back in with who really he should be with(KAWSAKI) and maybe he won't have to be scrambling all the time to be where he should be at, and maybe he can be in RV2 league right now. I mean shit he used to be battling with the freakin G.O.A.T for god's sake! Sorry that was his true time, the passing of the mantle when Carmichael retired, now he has to face the vicousness of RV2 THE FASTEST MAN ON THE PLANET. Hold on i meant RV1 all across the board. Just can't help my self but in 2010 if Potto, did'nt have to change his normal line he was taking in that rythm section to pass a lapped rider, RV1 had Dungey's ticket too and would of been champ that year as well but, can't cry about spilled milk. I'll get off his nutz now...Tongue
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UAW_member 1/19/2012 10:31am
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karnivool wrote:
Are you seriously starting another fuking thread about this? go back in your hole...

dumbgeon please GuyB...
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Don't disrespect Rupert. Everyone already knows that you are an asshole without you trying so hard.
chrisbuehler wrote:
He cant hear you, he's too busy swinging from Bubba's nuts

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chrisbuehler 1/19/2012 10:31am
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Could be the Yamaha. I am going to blame it first on poor training or sickness for the first two rounds. He booted one of the...
Could be the Yamaha. I am going to blame it first on poor training or sickness for the first two rounds. He booted one of the best trainers in the business, then RV picked him up. So not riding the nats has to have some effect. In the last race interview he was sweating like a pig (yes I know pigs don't sweat) and he said he felt bad. So he could be sick. He also appeared to slow down in the middle of the first race then picked it up again.

I think we are going to need a few more races to see if it is NOT fitness/illness. Then you can start pointing your finger back to the bike again... or perhaps the tires. Or perhaps RV IS THE Kwisatz Haderach ( the next RC) Smile
I love the interviews with RV after the races. Doesnt even look like he broke a sweat, smiling from ear to ear, etc
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carlosmacho 1/19/2012 10:35am
1/19/2012 10:35am Edited Date/Time 1/19/2012 10:36am
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I love the interviews with RV after the races. Doesnt even look like he broke a sweat, smiling from ear to ear, etc
No doubt RV been training his butt off and in top shape. He also looks a lot thinner too (remember when people were saying he was getting chubby?)
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Predator 1/19/2012 10:36am
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It's all in his head... unfortunately. I think he just can't swallow the fact that everybody has caught up to his speed. You guys really think something is wrong with the bike or tires when he wins every practice and every heat race?

BTW... I'm a fan of his so the reality of what I just wrote is starting to sting a bit. Wink
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Faceaz 1/19/2012 10:53am
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IMO, not the bike at this point. Last year - yes. This year, he's just stumbling out of the gate, having taken off quite a while. His head is holding him back more than the bike at this point. A good start in the main will knock the cobwebs out of his head - hopefully it happens sooner than later. If he can finish out this year decent without injury & doesn't pussy out of the Nationals, I think he could be the top of his game next year. It will only take one good race to turn it all around for him.
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karnivool 1/19/2012 11:02am
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karnivool wrote:
Are you seriously starting another fuking thread about this? go back in your hole...

dumbgeon please GuyB...
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Don't disrespect Rupert. Everyone already knows that you are an asshole without you trying so hard.
chrisbuehler wrote:
He cant hear you, he's too busy swinging from Bubba's nuts
how many threads do we need about that same subject? really...? tell me there isn't a few of these out there?

I am a stewart fan but the BIKE is not the problem, so no I am not hangin from his nuts like presumed above. he is simply losing his edge over his competition as he gets older and the younger guys stay in the zone...they train harder, ride more, test more, race more...better results...simple...no nut hugging...

do we really need a yamaha thread every week that bubba loses? if so, i will go ahead and start one for next week cause he ain't winnin this weekend Shocked
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karnivool 1/19/2012 11:03am
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karnivool wrote:
Are you seriously starting another fuking thread about this? go back in your hole...

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newmann wrote:
Let me guess, you own one?Laughing
nope...i ride zooks...2 strokes only nonetheless

now what?

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robkinuk 1/19/2012 11:32am
1/19/2012 11:32am
Perhaps Stewart is being paid big bucks by Go-Pro to get bad starts?
Let's face it, if he holeshots and leads 20 laps it ain't going to make for an interesting video!
Just thinkin!Wink Tongue
Motocross83 1/19/2012 11:48am
1/19/2012 11:48am
I have mixed feelings about it. I don't really think it's the bike as some people have made it work. But with that said I don't think it's the best bike out there either. I tend to agree with the Carlos post - we all know RV is incredibly fit, as is RD. With James... I think there's still a question mark there.
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Mstock 1/19/2012 11:49am
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He looks the same as the past 2 sx seasons. Why the questions now? We have had ZERO passes for the lead so far. 2 holeshots/lead all 20 laps. Stewart will get a start and win the same way. The tracks are way to simple in my opinion. Put in multiple 100 yard whoop sections and a 150' crazy balls double and James would shine. That said the yamaha still looks like shit compared to the Honda/Kawasaki/Suzuki/KTM.
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ropeahoe 1/19/2012 11:49am
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What a bunch of horse sh*t this is...He can go the fastest in practice or even during the race, but when he loses or crashes, its then the bikes fault? Oh, but it reacts differently under different circumstances....really? no kidding, so does the suzuki, honda or any other bike. It has different characteristics depending on the situation but anytime you get a new bike, it takes time to learn those, but once you do, you ride it with that in mind, better in some areas and worse in others. James, of anyone, is more than capable of adapting to any bike and making it go fast which we have seen him do.

When he gets a good start here shortly, he will most likely ride away from everyone and what then.......if he gets pressured by most likley RV and then he crashes, its not the bike, it will be the pressure. And where is this two to three seconds faster on the suzuki come from..? no way or you really believe if he was on the suzuki now, he would be 3 seconds a lap faster than RV...HA HA HA
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ianhendry46 1/19/2012 12:28pm
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Guys, i dont think it is the bike either, its no secret James isn't very good at bike set-up. I remember reading from Larry Brooks that James was horrible at feedback, he just told them what he wamted the bike to do and hoped they could make it do it. Im sure there is more to it, a lot of it is him. and like everyone is saying, not doing the outdoors is hurting him, less ride time. And to add to my opinion here, a couple days ago on twitter, James said, "I think we got the starts figured out." just goes to show, the set-up he had wasnt the best, and as the season goes on, it will get better and he will get race wins.
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jndmx 1/19/2012 12:35pm
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It's the Cinnamon Twist's.....in late 2009 they changed the recipe.
James has struggled ever since.

Check out the nutritional info page on the Taco Bell site
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Ryan_Huddleston 1/19/2012 12:41pm
1/19/2012 12:41pm
Tumblin wrote:
I believe it's not racing outdoors more than anything. Much like simple woods riding for us wanta be's, bike skilla racing the outdoors at his level...
I believe it's not racing outdoors more than anything. Much like simple woods riding for us wanta be's, bike skilla racing the outdoors at his level tunes you into variables that much of the controlled enviro's of supercross don't. Far more variety outdoors, with conditions that change by the lap, little track prep, over/under watered, weather, more riders to work through, longer...so many variables that you have to compete with while battling others that are all progressing their game. James has been loosing the front end, pogoing over the bars and running into others. I think his lack of competing in the brutal Nats is his downfall.
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Jay LINY 1/19/2012 12:41pm
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I think He's just like the rest of us......Used to be fast.

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StatutoryApe 1/19/2012 12:43pm
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jndmx wrote:
It's the Cinnamon Twist's.....in late 2009 they changed the recipe. James has struggled ever since. Check out the nutritional info page on the Taco Bell site...
It's the Cinnamon Twist's.....in late 2009 they changed the recipe.
James has struggled ever since.

Check out the nutritional info page on the Taco Bell site
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This changes everything.
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Lightning78 1/19/2012 12:46pm
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ropeahoe wrote:
What a bunch of horse sh*t this is...He can go the fastest in practice or even during the race, but when he loses or crashes, its...
What a bunch of horse sh*t this is...He can go the fastest in practice or even during the race, but when he loses or crashes, its then the bikes fault? Oh, but it reacts differently under different circumstances....really? no kidding, so does the suzuki, honda or any other bike. It has different characteristics depending on the situation but anytime you get a new bike, it takes time to learn those, but once you do, you ride it with that in mind, better in some areas and worse in others. James, of anyone, is more than capable of adapting to any bike and making it go fast which we have seen him do.

When he gets a good start here shortly, he will most likely ride away from everyone and what then.......if he gets pressured by most likley RV and then he crashes, its not the bike, it will be the pressure. And where is this two to three seconds faster on the suzuki come from..? no way or you really believe if he was on the suzuki now, he would be 3 seconds a lap faster than RV...HA HA HA
He discussed that in the podcast about the bike and I still believe the combination of THE BIKE, not racing outdoors and his head are what's holding him back. If you listen to Tue podcast he did w matthes he clearly states he could turn one fast lap and win a heat race BUT when he had to push hard for 20 laps Tue bike would severely limit how fast he could go. From watching him so far this year he is doing the EXACT same thing as last year .....only riding one practice to put in a fast lap and win his heat race whereas in the main he isn't able to push the bike or he will crash. Seems this exact same scenario is playing out again this year .... It will be perfectly obvious once the outdoors hit and the sx season is behind him if he wins or loses. Langston even mentioned how the shock acts up after a certain amount of time riding wfo now I know James isn't using stock stuff but that heat generated from the exhaust pipe can affect any shock. I'd really like to see him ride the zook because I do believe what was rumored about him being that much faster its too bad he took a deal that makes him ride the yamaha. I'm not hating on the bike for 99% of people it is great but with James it simply is not working for him. That's just what I see from a logical standpoint.....
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maru 1/19/2012 12:47pm
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It is not the Yamaha. Any of the top 5 brands can and have won if properly set up and ridden. If the bike is not properly set up it is the responsibility of the team and the team includes the rider, to identify the problem and fix it.

James, in my opinion has not shown the kind of dominating speed that I am used to seeing from him, but despite that his substandard finishes so far this year have been primarily because of crashes and none of the crashes this year can be blamed on that Yamaha.
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Falcon 1/19/2012 12:47pm
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How many posters on here have ridden one of those YZs? I have, and it seems fine to me. Certainly within the standard deviation between makes & models. I don't think it's the bike.
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ropeahoe wrote:
What a bunch of horse sh*t this is...He can go the fastest in practice or even during the race, but when he loses or crashes, its...
What a bunch of horse sh*t this is...He can go the fastest in practice or even during the race, but when he loses or crashes, its then the bikes fault? Oh, but it reacts differently under different circumstances....really? no kidding, so does the suzuki, honda or any other bike. It has different characteristics depending on the situation but anytime you get a new bike, it takes time to learn those, but once you do, you ride it with that in mind, better in some areas and worse in others. James, of anyone, is more than capable of adapting to any bike and making it go fast which we have seen him do.

When he gets a good start here shortly, he will most likely ride away from everyone and what then.......if he gets pressured by most likley RV and then he crashes, its not the bike, it will be the pressure. And where is this two to three seconds faster on the suzuki come from..? no way or you really believe if he was on the suzuki now, he would be 3 seconds a lap faster than RV...HA HA HA
Lightning78 wrote:
He discussed that in the podcast about the bike and I still believe the combination of THE BIKE, not racing outdoors and his head are what's...
He discussed that in the podcast about the bike and I still believe the combination of THE BIKE, not racing outdoors and his head are what's holding him back. If you listen to Tue podcast he did w matthes he clearly states he could turn one fast lap and win a heat race BUT when he had to push hard for 20 laps Tue bike would severely limit how fast he could go. From watching him so far this year he is doing the EXACT same thing as last year .....only riding one practice to put in a fast lap and win his heat race whereas in the main he isn't able to push the bike or he will crash. Seems this exact same scenario is playing out again this year .... It will be perfectly obvious once the outdoors hit and the sx season is behind him if he wins or loses. Langston even mentioned how the shock acts up after a certain amount of time riding wfo now I know James isn't using stock stuff but that heat generated from the exhaust pipe can affect any shock. I'd really like to see him ride the zook because I do believe what was rumored about him being that much faster its too bad he took a deal that makes him ride the yamaha. I'm not hating on the bike for 99% of people it is great but with James it simply is not working for him. That's just what I see from a logical standpoint.....
That sounds like a fitness issue to me.
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Cody24 1/19/2012 1:02pm
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chrisbuehler wrote:
I respectfully disagree about 2009. He was flying that year, yes all he had for competition was Reed. But if I remember right, he had a...
I respectfully disagree about 2009. He was flying that year, yes all he had for competition was Reed. But if I remember right, he had a couple tipovers but no huge getoffs and he looked good on the bike. IMO if you get down to it, the competition has stepped up and James hasnt adjusted his program. Racing half the year and worrying about tv shows isnt going to do you any favors against the Ryans
The bike was different in 2009. 2010 was the first year of the new bike.
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Falcon wrote:
How many posters on here have ridden one of those YZs? I have, and it seems fine to me. Certainly within the standard deviation between makes...
How many posters on here have ridden one of those YZs? I have, and it seems fine to me. Certainly within the standard deviation between makes & models. I don't think it's the bike.
Holy geesus I hope this was sarcasm.......
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carlosmacho 1/19/2012 1:06pm
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Lightning78 wrote:
He discussed that in the podcast about the bike and I still believe the combination of THE BIKE, not racing outdoors and his head are what's...
He discussed that in the podcast about the bike and I still believe the combination of THE BIKE, not racing outdoors and his head are what's holding him back. If you listen to Tue podcast he did w matthes he clearly states he could turn one fast lap and win a heat race BUT when he had to push hard for 20 laps Tue bike would severely limit how fast he could go. From watching him so far this year he is doing the EXACT same thing as last year .....only riding one practice to put in a fast lap and win his heat race whereas in the main he isn't able to push the bike or he will crash. Seems this exact same scenario is playing out again this year .... It will be perfectly obvious once the outdoors hit and the sx season is behind him if he wins or loses. Langston even mentioned how the shock acts up after a certain amount of time riding wfo now I know James isn't using stock stuff but that heat generated from the exhaust pipe can affect any shock. I'd really like to see him ride the zook because I do believe what was rumored about him being that much faster its too bad he took a deal that makes him ride the yamaha. I'm not hating on the bike for 99% of people it is great but with James it simply is not working for him. That's just what I see from a logical standpoint.....
Langston even mentioned how the shock acts up after a certain amount of time riding wfo now I know James isn't using stock stuff but that heat generated from the exhaust pipe can affect any shock.

There's a thought, but could the rear shock cause either of his two crashes? It doesn't look like it. Be even RV fans could see that the 2011 KX450 beat RV and he would come in sweating. He also stated that the bike made him work harder. Then the 2012, then Ahhhh (angels singing) he was able to kick it up another knotch last year.

So maybe James is suffering from something similar with the Yamaha. Hard to say because it could all be inside his head and the only real way to fix that is to switch brands or Yamaha remake the bike. Some say the RV went faster on the 2012 not because it was better, but in his mind it was a major change. Hard to tell what goes on in the minds of these guys.
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Playing mtv,lack of training, wanting to go nastycar and just NOT trying are his problem
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James was a BEAST on a Kawi... please,please get off that blue bike get back too his roots instead of just chasing the money, get back...
James was a BEAST on a Kawi... please,please get off that blue bike get back too his roots instead of just chasing the money, get back in with who really he should be with(KAWSAKI) and maybe he won't have to be scrambling all the time to be where he should be at, and maybe he can be in RV2 league right now. I mean shit he used to be battling with the freakin G.O.A.T for god's sake! Sorry that was his true time, the passing of the mantle when Carmichael retired, now he has to face the vicousness of RV2 THE FASTEST MAN ON THE PLANET. Hold on i meant RV1 all across the board. Just can't help my self but in 2010 if Potto, did'nt have to change his normal line he was taking in that rythm section to pass a lapped rider, RV1 had Dungey's ticket too and would of been champ that year as well but, can't cry about spilled milk. I'll get off his nutz now...Tongue
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rustytrombone 1/19/2012 1:24pm
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I think it somewhat is too. Even in 2009 when he won 11 races before the changes to the bike, he just doesn't look the same...
I think it somewhat is too. Even in 2009 when he won 11 races before the changes to the bike, he just doesn't look the same. I think his ego got the better of him this year. He wanted to prove that it wasn't the Yamaha. I remember mathes talking about a video of James testing a Suzuki before he signed with JGR. He said he thought the video was sped up, James was going so fast. I wonder why he didn't sign with suzuki?
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More money and more years with the JGR deal. And he wants in to NASCAR.
I saw a video w/ Albrecht, and he alluded to the fact that they (JGR) were open to going with the Suzuki, and it was James that wanted the Yamaha. So it might be an ego thing, or maybe a comfort level/familiarity with the Yamaha.
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Xsenter 1/19/2012 1:39pm
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In practise and heat races Stewart looks awesome on the Yamaha. And even in the mains he looks very comfortable on it. Then comes the mistakes and then people blame the Yamaha !

It's not the bike ! It's so obvious that it's mostly bad judgments and rider error. Stewart doesn't ride smart when he is pressured. That's the big problem for him right now.

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