Upgrade to enjoy this feature!
Vital MX fantasy is free to play, but Premium users receive great benefits. Premium benefits include:
- View and download rider stats
- Pick trends
- Create a private league
- And more!
Only $10 for all 2026 SX, MX, and SMX series.
Murder is murder.
Man kills my daughter and I hunt him down and shoot him dead in the street, it's murder. There's no legal or ethical wiggle room.
If you're going to say abortion is murder, than any abortion, regardless of the manner of conception, is murder.
Not the fault of the fetus the manner of conception, and isn't that conception the will of God? Who are you or the church leaders to determine what is or isn't God's will?
It's a hypocritical double standard of convenience.
What about fertility clinics? The fertilize eggs and freeze them. Once the host womb (mother) gives birth and no longer wants kids, the fertilized eggs are discarded....if "life" begins at conception, what's up with that? Where's the hate, anger, condemnation and picketing towards fertility clinics?
Point is, it's all hypocritical double standards for a matter of convenience.
Cut and trim the puzzle pieces to fit, so you can control, but still have wiggle room
Plus I'll add that even if congress and him butt heads his whole term, and not much get's accomplished, then atleast it will be no progress instead of this backwards progression we've been headed.
You would be going against the laws you as a juror are sworn to follow
The Shop
DeCal Works Huge Plastic Inventory of UFO and Polisport kits.
Luxon 4-Post Bar Mounts
$189.95 - $239.95
Free shipping: VITALMX
He can't get shit done in Congress
He can't even pass gas in Congress
But if elected POTUS, *POOF*, Jeannie crosses her arms, blinks and nods, and Congress falls into place and does his bidding....
You don't see a difference between killing someone in a drive by shooting, and killing someone that has a gun to your own head? Yes, both end a human life (murder), but the circumstances specific to each situation drastically change the reaction to them, right? Murder as Self Defense is justified...abortion in the instance of rape is also justified. neither are taken lightly, but it changes things.
I won't debate the how's and why's with you. I can't type that fast and I don't think you want to read that much. So I'll leave it at in certain instances murder (ending a human life) is justified. And even though its justified, it is never taken lightly.
In the case of rape or incest, massive emotional trauma to the mother would arise from carrying the fetus to term and delivering the baby. Just like the other health of the mother exemption you can clearly see that this is something that could be perceived as "self defense"-which is a pretty well established legal justification for killing someone.
The hypocrisy that I see is someone like you or WKnuckle giving two shits about what someone's religious beliefs are just because he's running for President, especially after clearly saying earlier that a President is one man who can't act unilaterally.
"...abortion in the instance of rape is also justified. neither are taken lightly, but it changes things."
How? Why? If life is life, then murder is murder. The manner of conception should be irrelevant. The conception is God's will, is it not? Who are you, I or the church leaders to decide what is or isn't God's will? How do you or they know? The fetus didn't choose the manner of conception, and by this point it has been conceived, yes?
It's convenient hypocrisy.
He authored and passed ONE BILL in 20+ years, a pork deal
Period
He can't even pass wind in congress
He'd be dead in the water
Common sense tells you that, or it should
Had he accomplished some things, like written and passed some bills to benefit the United States of America, not just some little porky project, I might believe he could get shit done.
But he hasn't and he can't
Lotsa religious bigotry in this here thread.
If life begins at conception, and life is life, and abortion is murder, then any abortion is murder.
You're just being selective as to who to murder and who to not, because by definition, the fetus is "life" and abortion is "murder"
It's a convenient hypocrisy
Just like with fertility clinics
No one says shit about that
Because it's a convenient hypocrisy
People buy into his shit, even though he accomplishes none of it?
Is capital punishment "murder?" Some say "yes" and some say "no," but again to me that is a convenient hypocrisy where someone claims to be "pro-life" but is all for killing people, granted bad people, but the killing of people nonetheless, outside of war.
The killing in war issue is a whole other issue
Pit Row
Abortion is bad...it's looked at as murder (taking someone elses life). But just like in other instances of murder (taking someone elses life) there are times when it's justified.
Post a reply to: Hey Ron Paul Supporters step in here.