Max Anstie

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 10:28am
I see he's down to race the west SX,is that right? He hauled last time he raced on the Yamaha,I think he could surprise a few,any thoughts?
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1/5/2012 2:33pm
I think he could turn some heads as well, some sleepers in the field with him and Osborne. still havent heard anything about Bruce Rutherford.
1/5/2012 2:37pm
Wasn't he doing that huge triple somewhere? It was awesome!
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1/5/2012 2:42pm
Wasn't he doing that huge triple somewhere? It was awesome!
I was thinking of that same thing! Only like 2 people that race were doing it. Him and Weimer maybe? After that race he got hurt practicing and didn't finish the supercross season. Was that Seattle?
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1/5/2012 2:47pm Edited Date/Time 1/5/2012 2:48pm
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when I was actually able to be fast..) He was actually caught running an 85? Or 80 bore kit on his 65 this one time at chippenham. (Which didn't look good for team green)

He is fast, can't deny that. But his career has been made through cheating and his dad doing anything to get him where he is and I don't approve..

Anyone remember the UK GP this year where Merv went crazy?

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sour grapes
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BESTY #72 wrote:
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when...
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when I was actually able to be fast..) He was actually caught running an 85? Or 80 bore kit on his 65 this one time at chippenham. (Which didn't look good for team green)

He is fast, can't deny that. But his career has been made through cheating and his dad doing anything to get him where he is and I don't approve..

Anyone remember the UK GP this year where Merv went crazy?
Yeah it looks like he has definateley got "Moto dad" syndrome Laughing
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1/5/2012 3:40pm
BESTY #72 wrote:
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when...
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when I was actually able to be fast..) He was actually caught running an 85? Or 80 bore kit on his 65 this one time at chippenham. (Which didn't look good for team green)

He is fast, can't deny that. But his career has been made through cheating and his dad doing anything to get him where he is and I don't approve..

Anyone remember the UK GP this year where Merv went crazy?
Somehow I don't think he fitted that big bore kit to his bike.


The race where he was catching Weimer till he hit back markers.

https://youtu.be/sci1Ss7O6Lk
1/5/2012 3:44pm
PressPassP wrote:
I see he's down to race the west SX,is that right? He hauled last time he raced on the Yamaha,I think he could surprise a few,any...
I see he's down to race the west SX,is that right? He hauled last time he raced on the Yamaha,I think he could surprise a few,any thoughts?
i thought hes been riding honda?
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BESTY #72 wrote:
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when...
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when I was actually able to be fast..) He was actually caught running an 85? Or 80 bore kit on his 65 this one time at chippenham. (Which didn't look good for team green)

He is fast, can't deny that. But his career has been made through cheating and his dad doing anything to get him where he is and I don't approve..

Anyone remember the UK GP this year where Merv went crazy?
No, what did Mervin do?
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1/5/2012 4:46pm
BESTY #72 wrote:
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when...
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when I was actually able to be fast..) He was actually caught running an 85? Or 80 bore kit on his 65 this one time at chippenham. (Which didn't look good for team green)

He is fast, can't deny that. But his career has been made through cheating and his dad doing anything to get him where he is and I don't approve..

Anyone remember the UK GP this year where Merv went crazy?
PressPassP wrote:
Yeah it looks like he has definateley got "Moto dad" syndrome Laughing
There was also that amateur national.....
1/5/2012 4:58pm
BESTY #72 wrote:
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when...
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when I was actually able to be fast..) He was actually caught running an 85? Or 80 bore kit on his 65 this one time at chippenham. (Which didn't look good for team green)

He is fast, can't deny that. But his career has been made through cheating and his dad doing anything to get him where he is and I don't approve..

Anyone remember the UK GP this year where Merv went crazy?
M-M wrote:
Somehow I don't think he fitted that big bore kit to his bike. The race where he was catching Weimer till he hit back markers. https://youtu.be/sci1Ss7O6Lk...
Somehow I don't think he fitted that big bore kit to his bike.


The race where he was catching Weimer till he hit back markers.

https://youtu.be/sci1Ss7O6Lk
Man jeff allessi ruined his race. That double he was hitting was absolutley insane.
1/5/2012 5:04pm
i thought hes been riding honda?
He was on Yamaha when he last raced SX in that clip I was looking for
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1/5/2012 5:52pm Edited Date/Time 1/5/2012 6:27pm
BESTY #72 wrote:
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when...
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when I was actually able to be fast..) He was actually caught running an 85? Or 80 bore kit on his 65 this one time at chippenham. (Which didn't look good for team green)

He is fast, can't deny that. But his career has been made through cheating and his dad doing anything to get him where he is and I don't approve..

Anyone remember the UK GP this year where Merv went crazy?
M-M wrote:
Somehow I don't think he fitted that big bore kit to his bike. The race where he was catching Weimer till he hit back markers. https://youtu.be/sci1Ss7O6Lk...
Somehow I don't think he fitted that big bore kit to his bike.


The race where he was catching Weimer till he hit back markers.

https://youtu.be/sci1Ss7O6Lk
Man jeff allessi ruined his race. That double he was hitting was absolutley insane.
Trust me! If you care about it that much and want more info from a different source. Hit up RS motorhomes and ask Jack Rowe or his dad. Those guys were the ones most annoyed about because it was them that lost the races, simply because ansties 'bog standard bike' (I mean bog standard kx. No pipe or nothing!) was able to fly past a mega tricked out KTM 65 (had everything on it- other than a bore kit) down any straight..

A lot of cheating went on those days and I think it still does.. UK motocross is nothing like the US, believe me. Heck, even Jake Nicholls was running Cr 100's in the 80 class, but not a lot was done about it because of the £££££..

Believe what you want, but Max has nothing to lose now does he? He's made it. I accept that he's fast, but how did he get there? It's only me and other insignificant, ex- hopefuls/ dreamers who remember what really went down.

Just to edit, if it bother you to the extent you can't sleep. Steven Heighton, who used to ride the same club as me (although he was in the 125's when I was in the auto's) was probably there.. He owns/ runs Race SoCal these days.
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1/5/2012 6:12pm Edited Date/Time 1/5/2012 6:17pm
BESTY #72 wrote:
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when...
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when I was actually able to be fast..) He was actually caught running an 85? Or 80 bore kit on his 65 this one time at chippenham. (Which didn't look good for team green)

He is fast, can't deny that. But his career has been made through cheating and his dad doing anything to get him where he is and I don't approve..

Anyone remember the UK GP this year where Merv went crazy?
Sandberm wrote:
No, what did Mervin do?
You didn't hear about all that? The fight in the CLS booth? (Sounds dodgy and unreliable I know but) My friend was like right there at the time. Mervyn started going on at one of the CLS guys, "How can my boy be expected to compete, when it only him (Searle) who gets all the factory parts. He's bikes no good!!" the CLS guy tried to justify it all and clear it up, but Mervyn continued going off, got in his face and squared up to him..

Then all the CLS guys got involved along with someone from the F.I.M (who was there to talk something over.. Never found out why.) to seperate it all, which led to one of them hitting the deck and Mervyn out of the pits (by force). I'm pretty sure it was mentioned by Malin on the tv and someone had a video of a bit of it. But I can't find anything.

Just found this: Kind of explains things:

http://moto.mpora.com/news/happen-max-anstie-matterley.html
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not being funny Besty but you come accross as being a bit bitter here pal.. Whether max was running a 80cc during his 60cc days or whatever makes no difference to the fact that hes a top supercross guy in 2012... talent is talent.
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not being funny Besty but you come accross as being a bit bitter here pal.. Whether max was running a 80cc during his 60cc days or...
not being funny Besty but you come accross as being a bit bitter here pal.. Whether max was running a 80cc during his 60cc days or whatever makes no difference to the fact that hes a top supercross guy in 2012... talent is talent.
If industry support comes about by results ,and Max got good results by cheating and thus support to further his career while Besty is left on the sidelines doing it the fair way? Id be bitter too.
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1/6/2012 5:07am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2012 5:07am
BESTY #72 wrote:
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when...
All I know is, he cheated as kid. I raced against him back in the 50 and 65 cc days (beat him a few times, when I was actually able to be fast..) He was actually caught running an 85? Or 80 bore kit on his 65 this one time at chippenham. (Which didn't look good for team green)

He is fast, can't deny that. But his career has been made through cheating and his dad doing anything to get him where he is and I don't approve..

Anyone remember the UK GP this year where Merv went crazy?
Sandberm wrote:
No, what did Mervin do?
BESTY #72 wrote:
You didn't hear about all that? The fight in the CLS booth? (Sounds dodgy and unreliable I know but) My friend was like right there at...
You didn't hear about all that? The fight in the CLS booth? (Sounds dodgy and unreliable I know but) My friend was like right there at the time. Mervyn started going on at one of the CLS guys, "How can my boy be expected to compete, when it only him (Searle) who gets all the factory parts. He's bikes no good!!" the CLS guy tried to justify it all and clear it up, but Mervyn continued going off, got in his face and squared up to him..

Then all the CLS guys got involved along with someone from the F.I.M (who was there to talk something over.. Never found out why.) to seperate it all, which led to one of them hitting the deck and Mervyn out of the pits (by force). I'm pretty sure it was mentioned by Malin on the tv and someone had a video of a bit of it. But I can't find anything.

Just found this: Kind of explains things:

http://moto.mpora.com/news/happen-max-anstie-matterley.html
You forgot to mention that 'Merv the Swerve' also racially abused Tommy Searle's (black) personal trainer - who, to the amusement of everyone present (except the Ansties) floored the dick head.
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1/6/2012 6:27am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2012 6:28am
CBird81 wrote:
not being funny Besty but you come accross as being a bit bitter here pal.. Whether max was running a 80cc during his 60cc days or...
not being funny Besty but you come accross as being a bit bitter here pal.. Whether max was running a 80cc during his 60cc days or whatever makes no difference to the fact that hes a top supercross guy in 2012... talent is talent.
Yeah, exactly. Hence why I said:

"Max has nothing to lose now does he? He's made it. I accept that he's fast, but how did he get there? It's only me and other insignificant, ex- hopefuls/ dreamers who remember what really went down."

He is fast and talented. His Dad did a lot of talking and in a way dirty deals, to ensure Max was going to become a pro. I can see that some kid talking down about a pro, looks unreliable. But sometimes, you have to look at the ther side of things.. Max is still getting employed by pro teams, regardless of his past and his dads actions.

He's quick but he wouldnt be where he was if he hadn't cheated his way to the top. Obviously in the states you have different rules, I.E the supermini class where Ciancarulo is running like a 119? Or something crazy like that.. But if he was running a stock class and was caught out to have that bore kit in the bike and label it "bog standard" I can guarentee there'd be complete craziness and Adams future oppertunites would go right down the pan.

It's not going to/ hasn't made a difference to him. I'm just saying, if he hadnt cheated he wouldnt have finished where he did. Therefore wouldnt have caught so much attention, gained support. Meaning his chances of coming pro would be a lot slimmer.
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What's up, Mr. Anstie
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I think the fact Mervyn trained him from about the age of 3 years old and then took him to learn supercross in the states when he was very young got him where he is today. No matter what happened in the 65cc class the kid has some amazing bike skills and apparently no fear on the track.
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The kid has a lot of game. The more fast guys the merrier!
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1/6/2012 7:57am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2012 7:58am
Some people on here. If it was a sob story I wouldnt refer to myself in this manner:

"insignificant", "dreamer"..

I think re-reading things to get a clear view, is something you should consider before just proceeding to go: "Yeah BS".. I've even accepted and stated myself, that some kid (me) is clearly going to appear to be an unreliable source. If I wanted to sit here and get a sympathy vote. I'd say a load of BS, big myself up and say something like: "Max cheating was the difference maker that meant he went pro and not me.. Bla, bla.." I wouldnt because that is not true! Max cheating, running bore kits etc is.

Call it crap, I'm just saying how I think his career has revolved cheating and dirty deals. If someone had facts like this, about someone like RC (It would never happen btw!!) thing how much sh*t would go down..

I mean, he'd still be the GOAT, and there's obviously no doubt of his ability. But it'd put shame on him and dissapoint a lot of people.

Who needs to dry their eyes?
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jamma10 wrote:
I think the fact Mervyn trained him from about the age of 3 years old and then took him to learn supercross in the states when...
I think the fact Mervyn trained him from about the age of 3 years old and then took him to learn supercross in the states when he was very young got him where he is today. No matter what happened in the 65cc class the kid has some amazing bike skills and apparently no fear on the track.
I think going to the states so early held him back in motocross myself... but he certainly has supercross dialled.
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He ran an oversize bike when he was on 60's or whatever ?? You young punks need to live in the now and stop reliving the golden years.
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jamma10 wrote:
I think the fact Mervyn trained him from about the age of 3 years old and then took him to learn supercross in the states when...
I think the fact Mervyn trained him from about the age of 3 years old and then took him to learn supercross in the states when he was very young got him where he is today. No matter what happened in the 65cc class the kid has some amazing bike skills and apparently no fear on the track.
mccread wrote:
I think going to the states so early held him back in motocross myself... but he certainly has supercross dialled.
It might seem that way now he's back over here riding GP tracks, but if he'd stayed in America I bet he would be right up there now. Added to the fact he's a superb Supercross rider, he was and still is way ahead of most other British kids of the same age. He's certainly a more rounded rider.
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1/6/2012 11:32am Edited Date/Time 1/6/2012 11:33am
jamma10 wrote:
I think the fact Mervyn trained him from about the age of 3 years old and then took him to learn supercross in the states when...
I think the fact Mervyn trained him from about the age of 3 years old and then took him to learn supercross in the states when he was very young got him where he is today. No matter what happened in the 65cc class the kid has some amazing bike skills and apparently no fear on the track.
mccread wrote:
I think going to the states so early held him back in motocross myself... but he certainly has supercross dialled.
jamma10: Just to let you know, I did/ was invited to a Mervyn Anstie training day -(prior to the bore kit ordeal happening) Like i've said the whole time, he was talented, trying to through heel clickers on his ktm etc. It was just pretty much all my competitors (of the auto class days) and Max riding his track, (which again having your own track in the UK is a pretty big priveladge. Even though it was tiny..) I didnt learn a lot..

mccread: No way! Look how many UK riders in the past 5 years, heck even ten years who have made it by going through the UK scene and upwards..

Dobb
Nunny
Billy Mac
Swordy-kinda..
Searle
Nicholls
Ando
And kind of.. Alfie Smith, who I used to race against

Thats it..

We don't have all the amatuer events with media attention, I mean there's Red bull pro nats now. But prior to that, all we had to race were YSMA nats and BSMA nats neither of which get any attention. The only way to get support in the UK is literally by buying your way in.. I've had friends talking to me about sponsorhsip offers from Husky UK, TM, and so on.. But the sponsorship is: "You're really fast. We'd be really interested in offering you some support. We'll hook you up with a race bike and a practice bike, pay your entry fees and let you under our tent....... All you have to do is pay us £15/ 20 grand.."Which is why we waste/ lose a lot of talent and only the mega rich, really get anywhere. I don't see a lot of US amatuer riders dealing with the same thing. You could be the poorest family in the US, but if you get a bit of attention and you have speed, people actually help you. It's still amazingly hard work and hard going, but atleast you could make it. Whereas over here, it's like you grow up racing for a plastic trophy, don't get any where and go get a job.

Riding a bike on US soil is every kids dream.. Let alone racing the AMA series.
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jamma10 wrote:
I think the fact Mervyn trained him from about the age of 3 years old and then took him to learn supercross in the states when...
I think the fact Mervyn trained him from about the age of 3 years old and then took him to learn supercross in the states when he was very young got him where he is today. No matter what happened in the 65cc class the kid has some amazing bike skills and apparently no fear on the track.
mccread wrote:
I think going to the states so early held him back in motocross myself... but he certainly has supercross dialled.
BESTY #72 wrote:
jamma10: Just to let you know, I did/ was invited to a Mervyn Anstie training day -(prior to the bore kit ordeal happening) Like i've said...
jamma10: Just to let you know, I did/ was invited to a Mervyn Anstie training day -(prior to the bore kit ordeal happening) Like i've said the whole time, he was talented, trying to through heel clickers on his ktm etc. It was just pretty much all my competitors (of the auto class days) and Max riding his track, (which again having your own track in the UK is a pretty big priveladge. Even though it was tiny..) I didnt learn a lot..

mccread: No way! Look how many UK riders in the past 5 years, heck even ten years who have made it by going through the UK scene and upwards..

Dobb
Nunny
Billy Mac
Swordy-kinda..
Searle
Nicholls
Ando
And kind of.. Alfie Smith, who I used to race against

Thats it..

We don't have all the amatuer events with media attention, I mean there's Red bull pro nats now. But prior to that, all we had to race were YSMA nats and BSMA nats neither of which get any attention. The only way to get support in the UK is literally by buying your way in.. I've had friends talking to me about sponsorhsip offers from Husky UK, TM, and so on.. But the sponsorship is: "You're really fast. We'd be really interested in offering you some support. We'll hook you up with a race bike and a practice bike, pay your entry fees and let you under our tent....... All you have to do is pay us £15/ 20 grand.."Which is why we waste/ lose a lot of talent and only the mega rich, really get anywhere. I don't see a lot of US amatuer riders dealing with the same thing. You could be the poorest family in the US, but if you get a bit of attention and you have speed, people actually help you. It's still amazingly hard work and hard going, but atleast you could make it. Whereas over here, it's like you grow up racing for a plastic trophy, don't get any where and go get a job.

Riding a bike on US soil is every kids dream.. Let alone racing the AMA series.
I'll give you some advice. Never take anything Mccread says serious. He loves to get hammered before he posts. Hence the amount of ridiculous shit he posts.
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mccread wrote:
I think going to the states so early held him back in motocross myself... but he certainly has supercross dialled.
BESTY #72 wrote:
jamma10: Just to let you know, I did/ was invited to a Mervyn Anstie training day -(prior to the bore kit ordeal happening) Like i've said...
jamma10: Just to let you know, I did/ was invited to a Mervyn Anstie training day -(prior to the bore kit ordeal happening) Like i've said the whole time, he was talented, trying to through heel clickers on his ktm etc. It was just pretty much all my competitors (of the auto class days) and Max riding his track, (which again having your own track in the UK is a pretty big priveladge. Even though it was tiny..) I didnt learn a lot..

mccread: No way! Look how many UK riders in the past 5 years, heck even ten years who have made it by going through the UK scene and upwards..

Dobb
Nunny
Billy Mac
Swordy-kinda..
Searle
Nicholls
Ando
And kind of.. Alfie Smith, who I used to race against

Thats it..

We don't have all the amatuer events with media attention, I mean there's Red bull pro nats now. But prior to that, all we had to race were YSMA nats and BSMA nats neither of which get any attention. The only way to get support in the UK is literally by buying your way in.. I've had friends talking to me about sponsorhsip offers from Husky UK, TM, and so on.. But the sponsorship is: "You're really fast. We'd be really interested in offering you some support. We'll hook you up with a race bike and a practice bike, pay your entry fees and let you under our tent....... All you have to do is pay us £15/ 20 grand.."Which is why we waste/ lose a lot of talent and only the mega rich, really get anywhere. I don't see a lot of US amatuer riders dealing with the same thing. You could be the poorest family in the US, but if you get a bit of attention and you have speed, people actually help you. It's still amazingly hard work and hard going, but atleast you could make it. Whereas over here, it's like you grow up racing for a plastic trophy, don't get any where and go get a job.

Riding a bike on US soil is every kids dream.. Let alone racing the AMA series.
Jarid332 wrote:
I'll give you some advice. Never take anything Mccread says serious. He loves to get hammered before he posts. Hence the amount of ridiculous shit he...
I'll give you some advice. Never take anything Mccread says serious. He loves to get hammered before he posts. Hence the amount of ridiculous shit he posts.
Haha! I can see that!

This guy.. It's like, I've even said myself. People what read what I intially wrote, think: "how unreliable, how could he possibly have known.. Max would never cheat.." and draw the conclusion of:

"Yeah BS. Lets give this little know it all a piece of my mind.."

I don't understand how difficult it is for people to read these days..
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I'd say top 10 for both Anstie and 338...its so hard to judge what a rider is going to do. They can wreck during the race or get a bad start and totally hurt their chances during the main. Realistically there are maybe 5 guys that can win, Im gonna say only 3 of them will win in the west, but thats just a guess...

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