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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 8:43pm
Im just curious to see what you guys think about Cooper in the future. To me it seems he is getting closer and closer to AC92 every year, in the pro's it's about how bad you want it and having the right luck (no bike problems, not getting hurt, etc.). After watching the MEC and JWTF video of Cooper it got me thinking about a certain rider who played second fiddle to a top amateur back in the day, but now the roles are reversed. That kid is now atop the mx world.

I dont doubt that AC92 is hard working and really wants to do this for a career, but all it takes is a little bit of bad luck to hurt ya. How do you guys think Cooper will stack up compared to AC92 when they get to the bigs
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jleews6 12/30/2011 8:41am
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I have always thought that Cooper was a smoother rider then AC and that when they got older and got on big bikes you would start to see things change. The other thing to remember is that Cooper has Gary Bailey on his side and that will play a big roll as they get older.
I can see Cooper Webb being an AMA champion someday.
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loftyair 12/30/2011 9:07am
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They should both be fine. Championships are not out of the question for either one of them. As long as they keep going in the right direction, and not the J-law, Hanny, Grant, Izzi, Sroupe way, they will be there.
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Kids smooth and consistent from what i've seen.

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mx 219 12/30/2011 9:31am
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knowitalloveragainnovice wrote:
Wait and see.......there are other kids who may beat them both once they get to the pro's
you have a very good point.
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peelout 12/30/2011 9:32am
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AC... isn't that kid still on a 65
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mxRob 12/30/2011 9:39am
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peelout wrote:
AC... isn't that kid still on a 65
85...
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peelout 12/30/2011 9:41am
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peelout wrote:
AC... isn't that kid still on a 65
mxRob wrote:
85...
oh nice, do you think he could qualify for a national on his 85?
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peelout wrote:
AC... isn't that kid still on a 65
mxRob wrote:
85...
peelout wrote:
oh nice, do you think he could qualify for a national on his 85?
no, this was discussed in a thread a while back. not even on his supermini would he.
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peelout 12/30/2011 9:49am
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mxRob wrote:
85...
peelout wrote:
oh nice, do you think he could qualify for a national on his 85?
neysbo wrote:
no, this was discussed in a thread a while back. not even on his supermini would he.
psh.. i've seen videos
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mxRob 12/30/2011 10:10am
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peelout wrote:
AC... isn't that kid still on a 65
mxRob wrote:
85...
peelout wrote:
oh nice, do you think he could qualify for a national on his 85?
Fuck yeah he would, did you see him at mec? If a guy on a 250 two stroke offroad modell can qualify, he can on the 85
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If you have been around the sport long enough you know that success on the minis does not always transfer to the pros.

While Mike Alessi has had some success in the pros it is nothing like his min career.

While Robbie Reynard had some success in his early pro career, injuries certainly prevented him from being the dominant rider many thought he would be.

Brian Swink didn't rack up the multiple titles that were anticipated.

While he was certainly succesful in Arenacross Buddy Antunez hardly ever made the mark in the Pros that many thought he would.

Meanwhile, McGrath had no mini career and nobody can argue with his success.

Making the jump to the top level is a huge step that many Mini stars struggle with. For years they are on top and then they hit a wall called Pro level reality.

AC92 is an impressive rider, but hardly as dominant as RC and JS. Cooper is right there with him. Jordon SMith is there as well and making the move to big bikes could result in a tipped scale one way or the other.

The difference could be a tweaked wrist here or a sore knee there.

LL's will certainly be interesting this year.
Moto East Mag 12/30/2011 10:54am
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I see number one plates in his future. There's always fast kids, but he is one of those transcendent talents.
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loftyair 12/30/2011 10:56am
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AC no longer on mini's, some supermini left for him, but no smaller wheel. He will also be riding the kx125 pro-circuit 2-stroke, yeah baby!
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steveada 12/30/2011 11:07am
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My kids race in the same classes as AC and Webb, so I have seen them both racing quite a bit. Unless he goes down, there is no one in his class that even comes close to AC, including Cooper Webb. The closest my kids get is at the starting gate. Cooper is a great rider and gets it done for sure, but he is not the dominant rider that AC is.
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JustMX wrote:
If you have been around the sport long enough you know that success on the minis does not always transfer to the pros. While Mike Alessi...
If you have been around the sport long enough you know that success on the minis does not always transfer to the pros.

While Mike Alessi has had some success in the pros it is nothing like his min career.

While Robbie Reynard had some success in his early pro career, injuries certainly prevented him from being the dominant rider many thought he would be.

Brian Swink didn't rack up the multiple titles that were anticipated.

While he was certainly succesful in Arenacross Buddy Antunez hardly ever made the mark in the Pros that many thought he would.

Meanwhile, McGrath had no mini career and nobody can argue with his success.

Making the jump to the top level is a huge step that many Mini stars struggle with. For years they are on top and then they hit a wall called Pro level reality.

AC92 is an impressive rider, but hardly as dominant as RC and JS. Cooper is right there with him. Jordon SMith is there as well and making the move to big bikes could result in a tipped scale one way or the other.

The difference could be a tweaked wrist here or a sore knee there.

LL's will certainly be interesting this year.
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Sonny_Solar 12/30/2011 11:25am
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All this talk about Cooper, AC, and Jordon smith? You all need to look at the up and comer Josh Osby! He got 4th o/a in Supermini 2 and 7th o/a in Schoolboy 1.. He beat Jordon Smith straight up on big bikes at the baja brawl! Just watch this kid, i think he will impress alot of people next year..
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Mspicer 12/30/2011 12:03pm
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Sonny_Solar wrote:
All this talk about Cooper, AC, and Jordon smith? You all need to look at the up and comer Josh Osby! He got 4th o/a in...
All this talk about Cooper, AC, and Jordon smith? You all need to look at the up and comer Josh Osby! He got 4th o/a in Supermini 2 and 7th o/a in Schoolboy 1.. He beat Jordon Smith straight up on big bikes at the baja brawl! Just watch this kid, i think he will impress alot of people next year..
Your are certainly right about that, Osby is flyin and is going to be the dark horse from Indiana, AC has yet to prove anything on the big bikes, let 2012 begin!

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D5000 12/30/2011 12:19pm
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CW is going to be killer! He is with Star Racing now one of the best in the biz!
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JJO741 12/30/2011 12:35pm
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Cooper has a very bright future in our sport. He will be a champion. He is a good kid and has a good family behind him. He is already hauling ass on the 250f.
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Mstock 12/30/2011 12:50pm
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The sport did fine for many years without amateur "national" races and LL's. In fact you could argue it was better. More riders of equal ability and experience when they turned pro. Everyone had a chance. Bob Hannah and Danny Chandler would not get rides with today's methods. Imagine how many great riders give up on the dream because Daddy is not rich and semi retired to afford the "amateur" national circuit. What is spent on AC92's total annual race effort? A million dollars per year? Maybe more.
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one"O"three 12/30/2011 1:23pm
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"AC92 is an impressive rider, but hardly as dominant as RC and JS." JustMX.

JustMX you may want to look into that a little further.

The fact that most of you are always comparing AC92 to Cooper should tell you something. Cooper is over a year older then AC. While a year may not seem like a lot, it is when you ride mini bikes.

Disclaimer:
In now way would I ever discredit the ability of the riders named in this thread. In fact, the opposite is true, Cooper and Jordan are great riders who have accomplished so much and have great potential. If you just look at the facts, they have not even come close to achieving what AC92 has done in the last 5 years. That should tell you something about what the future holds for the 92.

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