2012 MX TV Package

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 1:27pm
Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship and NBC Sports Group Announce New Television Distribution Partnership
New Partnership Allows Full Broadcast Integration for Series Sponsors

MORGANTOWN, W. Va. (November 14, 2011) - MX Sports Pro Racing and Alli Sports, a division of the NBC Sports Group, announced today that NBC Sports and NBC Sports Network (renamed from VERSUS on Jan. 2) will be the new broadcast home for the 2012 Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship. The broadcast partnership will feature three live hours on NBC Sports and 21 hours of race programming on the NBC Sports Network, with 11 hours live.

The 2012 season expects to continue the upward trend the series has experienced since MX Sports Pro Racing and Alli Sports became partners in 2009. Since that time, motocross has enjoyed unprecedented growth with fans, and has seen its television audience nearly quadruple in just three years. This new partnership comes on the heels of a highly successful 2011 season that reached the largest overall motocross audience through television, digital and on-site viewers in the sport's 40-year history. In 2011 the series saw a 36 percent increase year-over-year in domestic television viewership, along with a 50 percent increase in overall website traffic.

"NBC Sports and the NBC Sports Network are the perfect broadcast partners for the Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship," said MX Sports Pro Racing President Davey Coombs. "We look forward to engaging motocross' strong and devoted fan-base via the various broadcast and digital platforms available through our relationship with Alli Sports. Our work together over the past three years has done a tremendous amount to grow the sport and we're excited to build on it with the expanded television partnership with the NBC Sports Group."

With the move to the NBC Sports Group, Alli Sports will have greater flexibility to offer complete packages to sponsors that include media assets, series sponsorship opportunities, as well as more live hours, better programming windows and the ability to cross-promote the series across various networks and platforms.

"The new television package not only provides new opportunities for our fans, but allows us to better support both our current and future business partners with more robust and flexible sponsorship packages," said Alli Sports President Wade Martin. "The Series has seen amazing growth on all levels and the new television package is another big step."

"The Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championships is a terrific programming property for the NBC Sports Group, particularly due to its popularity in young male demographics," said Rob Simmelkjaer, Senior Vice President at NBC Sports. "It will serve as an important part of our action sports strategy going forward."
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11/14/2011 9:59am
Huh?

All this talk about the 2012 Nat's TV pkg and no mention of Red Bull?

I guess there's more to come...
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11/14/2011 10:19am
I hate to see the coverage leave SPEED. Seemed like a good fit especially with the ability to pick up a lot of other casual race fans that may not yet be necessarily motorcycle race fans.

I don't even know what channel Versus/NBC Sports is and I doubt I'm alone. Hopefully this works out.
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Rockstar is out as a sponsor...
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11/14/2011 10:29am
Versus has gotten a lot better over the last couple years, but sorry to see it off Speed. I guess the Fox/NBC mix didn't fly

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11/14/2011 10:41am
Yay! I can cancel fueltv now! Damn surfing shows all the time anyways!
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11/14/2011 10:43am
Sweeet! The speed coverage was great but Fuel was bad, I don't know about everyone but Fuel isn't offered in HD via Dish in my area so this is great news!
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Sweeet! The speed coverage was great but Fuel was bad, I don't know about everyone but Fuel isn't offered in HD via Dish in my area...
Sweeet! The speed coverage was great but Fuel was bad, I don't know about everyone but Fuel isn't offered in HD via Dish in my area so this is great news!
Fuel in non-HD is better than no televised first motos at all which is what it looks like we're going back to. They'll be online, which is good, just not able to be DVR'd.
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11/14/2011 11:29am
It says " renamed from versus" instead of renamed to Versus. So which one is it? Is the races on NBC sports or on Versus? I have direct tv so was lucky enough last year to have both speed and fuel tv in HD . I know there were some sx's on nbc which was channel 13 im pretty sure Versus is not that low of a channel. If it is Versus then I can probably go back to comcast .
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11/14/2011 11:43am
Backwards step.

It was good to have the first motos in HD, the internet stream cannot handle high speed stuff like MX. I have the 30Mbit version of FIOS and whenever it came time to watch live streamed motos the quality was junk because allisports.com servers couldn't handle the load.
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Speed's out then I guess. Anyone want to guess if MX Sports is buying time this year or did they actually have a willing partner in NBC?
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11/14/2011 12:53pm
It says " renamed from versus" instead of renamed to Versus. So which one is it? Is the races on NBC sports or on Versus? I...
It says " renamed from versus" instead of renamed to Versus. So which one is it? Is the races on NBC sports or on Versus? I have direct tv so was lucky enough last year to have both speed and fuel tv in HD . I know there were some sx's on nbc which was channel 13 im pretty sure Versus is not that low of a channel. If it is Versus then I can probably go back to comcast .
Versus is being renamed NBC Sports on January 2nd.
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11/14/2011 12:56pm
Fuel relaunches in the Spring and there will be more "Moto" programing.
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11/14/2011 12:59pm
So what will the format be!? First moto one channel, second moto another? Both motos same channel? Or just one moto? Either way in my opinion. If we only get one moto then we have regressed. This question may have already been answered and i am missing it.
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It is slightly dissapointing to take a step back. The first motos live of every single race was awsome. Plus I do have Direct TV so i got fuel in HD. Just such a shame when we finally had all first motos on actual TV. I will go back to watchin on the interenet but its not the same as mentioned. Its not that high quality. I guess when MX Sports had to pay I understand but I really felt like Outdoors had surpassed SX. They had better coverage, more live coverage, and just more racing overall. Now to go back to highlight shows it just. O well. What is that saying, sometimes you have to take a step back to o whatever.

This sucks.
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11/14/2011 1:04pm
I missed the part that said the first motos wouldn't be televised.
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I hope they still have the first motos live on versus, I live in BFE and don't have a fast enough internet connection to watch the races without buffering. That's the other reason races like the GP's and MXDN suck for people like me, I would pay to watch them, but not with my internet connection. If we could get something like motors tv in the states on DirectTV that would be great.
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11/14/2011 1:13pm
Can we get Davey to clarify any of this?
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11/14/2011 1:14pm
What if the choices were to air the first motos only on FUEL, with no more internet streaming, or to continue showing them all on the internet (and free) while still trying to get them going all day on one network family -- NBC and NBC Sports -- in the future?

NBC Sports now owns Alli Sports, our commercial partners in the series, which is a very positive development for American Motocross.

It was great to have the first motos on FUEL, but I really think it's important to keep showing them all over the world to the rapidly growing online audience.

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11/14/2011 1:15pm
mom241 wrote:
I missed the part that said the first motos wouldn't be televised.
Do the math, 12 races, 2 classes, 2 motos each. 48 'events'. No way they wlll squeeze it all into a grand total of 24 hours of TV coverage.

Unless the edit a lot out.
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mom241 wrote:
I missed the part that said the first motos wouldn't be televised.
It says "The broadcast partnership will feature three live hours on NBC Sports and 21 hours of race programming on the NBC Sports Network".

Typically each moto gets an hour of TV time so that's not near enough TV time to televise all 48 motos between the two classes. Additionally, the full press release on Racer X adds this statement:

"The series' widely-popular online coverage will continue as well, allowing enthusiasts to log onto the official website of the Lucas Oil AMA Pro Motocross Championship to catch all the opening-moto action at www.allisports.com/motocross."
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DC wrote:
What if the choices were to air the first motos only on FUEL, with no more internet streaming, or to continue showing them all on the...
What if the choices were to air the first motos only on FUEL, with no more internet streaming, or to continue showing them all on the internet (and free) while still trying to get them going all day on one network family -- NBC and NBC Sports -- in the future?

NBC Sports now owns Alli Sports, our commercial partners in the series, which is a very positive development for American Motocross.

It was great to have the first motos on FUEL, but I really think it's important to keep showing them all over the world to the rapidly growing online audience.

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Is it all the same day as the race on one channel?
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DC wrote:
What if the choices were to air the first motos only on FUEL, with no more internet streaming, or to continue showing them all on the...
What if the choices were to air the first motos only on FUEL, with no more internet streaming, or to continue showing them all on the internet (and free) while still trying to get them going all day on one network family -- NBC and NBC Sports -- in the future?

NBC Sports now owns Alli Sports, our commercial partners in the series, which is a very positive development for American Motocross.

It was great to have the first motos on FUEL, but I really think it's important to keep showing them all over the world to the rapidly growing online audience.

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The internet stream is ineffective. Get some bandwidth or experienced IT people at Alli to make the stream actually work at race time and it will be a gianormous hit. I tried to watch a few times and gave up because it sucked so bad.

On the other hand, the Standard def Fuel stuff is also no good once you've drank the HD punch.

Action Sports beg for HD and suck with the compressed streaming codecs because of the rate of change from frame to frame.
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11/14/2011 1:24pm
Gym, I don't understand the question.... Three races will be on NBC, the rest on NBC Sports -- the second motos of both classes. We're working on a first-moto fix that will also allow it to stay online, as well as programming for the WMX.

And while I understand that this model doesn't work for everyone, it's ultimately be a step in the right direction.

2012 will be a busy year for NBC because of the Olympics, which will take up much of July. That's why the X Games even moved to the end of June instead of July.

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NBC sucks, I hate watching the races on NBC.

Careful what growth you wish for, sometimes things just need to stay tradition. It has become poser-cross since, "we are getting bigger" ruled the drive for "more"

Next day coverage on Speed and even this last years package is/was better than 8 month delay for Carlsbad wide world of sports coverage.
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I think last years TV package was way better. After doing the math it just doesn't work to our advantage. We had way more live programming. Way more same day race coverage. As far as showing the whole world goes why can't it be archived on the internet for our worldwide fans to view within a day or so? Honestly the Euros think GP's are better anyways. Tell the to kick rocks.

There can't be 2 separate packages for programming. One for the Americans another for the Euro fan base?
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MotoX85 wrote:
NBC sucks, I hate watching the races on NBC. Careful what growth you wish for, sometimes things just need to stay tradition. It has become poser-cross...
NBC sucks, I hate watching the races on NBC.

Careful what growth you wish for, sometimes things just need to stay tradition. It has become poser-cross since, "we are getting bigger" ruled the drive for "more"

Next day coverage on Speed and even this last years package is/was better than 8 month delay for Carlsbad wide world of sports coverage.
NBC is a heavy hitter in the TV world, but underneath it all they are businessmen, their decisions are driven by potential profit.

The fact they are getting more into MX means that they see MX as a source of such profit. Be happy they are doing this, Let them screw up before you complain about their involvement. Otherwise get rid of your TV and check your mailbox for the mag to show up in your mailbox everyday.
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DC wrote:
Gym, I don't understand the question.... Three races will be on NBC, the rest on NBC Sports -- the second motos of both classes. We're working...
Gym, I don't understand the question.... Three races will be on NBC, the rest on NBC Sports -- the second motos of both classes. We're working on a first-moto fix that will also allow it to stay online, as well as programming for the WMX.

And while I understand that this model doesn't work for everyone, it's ultimately be a step in the right direction.

2012 will be a busy year for NBC because of the Olympics, which will take up much of July. That's why the X Games even moved to the end of June instead of July.

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The non-live programming on 1 channel(NBC Sports) that they are offering, is it on Saturdays(the same day as the nationals) or is it going to be offered next day or even a couple days after the national?
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11/14/2011 1:31pm
Why are the GPs not televised in the US? 1.) nobody would watch them 2.) the Euros don't pick TV deals for the rest of the world.

Bad decision, NBC sucks badly. In fact I erased all the DVR'd races I had that were shown on NBC once the re-airs were recorded on Fuel.
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11/14/2011 1:41pm Edited Date/Time 11/14/2011 1:42pm
Can every moto be done online live then get archived immediately?

That would solve not enough programming devoted to MX. It would help with bandwidth issues so everyone isn't trying to watch at the same time. Wouldn't matter where you live as long as you have internet access you can watch all 4 motor uninterrupted. Just a idea it may not even be feasible.
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11/14/2011 2:03pm Edited Date/Time 11/14/2011 2:04pm
I would much rather have the first motos on TV, but that's just me since I have Fuel in HD. I can't see the ratings or advertising revenue being the same on the internet, but I could be wrong. I wonder if the outdoors could somehow adpot a three hour run time, thus making a live 3 hour show plausible....

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