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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 3:46am
I was just at C4MX and Frenchie was working on the teams motors..As you can see by the names on the heads Jeff Alessi..Jake Canada and Weeeks will be on Honda 250F's. So the rumor of the team being all on Suzuki is false.[/img]
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yep.... magic marker is all the proof I need. Dry
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yep.... magic marker is all the proof I need. Dry
I knew someone would say something about the writing. Truth is those heads are for the riders who's names are on them.
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lumpy790 wrote:
yep.... magic marker is all the proof I need. Dry
LOL! I needed that today!!! LOL! I kove it!
Shit we need more humor in this place!! LOL!
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Tony's already said Jeff might be on a Honda 250f for east coast races.

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Sherwood wrote:
Tony's already said Jeff might be on a Honda 250f for east coast races.
Thought Tony bactracked and said if Jeff rides a 250, it will be an RMZ?
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Sherwood wrote:
Tony's already said Jeff might be on a Honda 250f for east coast races.
wawazat wrote:
Thought Tony bactracked and said if Jeff rides a 250, it will be an RMZ?
thats the way i read it as well.
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Hadn't heard that. Only heard Honda 250f for east Suzuki 450 west. Could've changed.
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I was just at C4MX and Frenchie was working on the teams motors..As you can see by the names on the heads Jeff Alessi..Jake Canada and...
I was just at C4MX and Frenchie was working on the teams motors..As you can see by the names on the heads Jeff Alessi..Jake Canada and Weeeks will be on Honda 250F's. So the rumor of the team being all on Suzuki is false.[/img]
Mike Genova's no dummy and his new program makes the most sense if you think about it for more than a second. As the manufacturers have slowly but surely cut their support down to warmed-over poop for most teams, why not let each rider race whatever brand they are fastest on?

With the right unique plastics and graphics on all the bikes, you can brand around MotoConcepts only and tell the manufacturers to go back to pushing paper in their overgrown bureaucracies. If I were Mike, I'd kindly inform the promoters that they can't even run the brand or brand color of bike for riders on his team on the lap ticker - instead I would demand they run whatever logo and color his team chooses. Go MotoConcepts!! To Infinity and beyond . . .
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HuskyEd 11/2/2011 8:34pm
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Sherwood wrote:
Tony's already said Jeff might be on a Honda 250f for east coast races.
wawazat wrote:
Thought Tony bactracked and said if Jeff rides a 250, it will be an RMZ?
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/801,1227062


100% for sure Mike and Jeff will both be on 450 Suzukis. There’s a possibility that Jeff will ride East Coast Lites because he is still eligible. If he does do that, he will be on a Honda 250. The whole look of the bikes, the color schemes, will be the same whether it’s the Suzuki or the Honda.
*Update Edit – Tony just contacted us to let us know that he misspoke and that Jeff will not be riding Hondas.



Things keep changing from week to week.
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Sherwood wrote:
Tony's already said Jeff might be on a Honda 250f for east coast races.
wawazat wrote:
Thought Tony bactracked and said if Jeff rides a 250, it will be an RMZ?
HuskyEd wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/801,1227062 100% for sure Mike and Jeff will both be on 450 Suzukis. There’s a possibility that Jeff will ride East Coast Lites because he is...
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/801,1227062


100% for sure Mike and Jeff will both be on 450 Suzukis. There’s a possibility that Jeff will ride East Coast Lites because he is still eligible. If he does do that, he will be on a Honda 250. The whole look of the bikes, the color schemes, will be the same whether it’s the Suzuki or the Honda.
*Update Edit – Tony just contacted us to let us know that he misspoke and that Jeff will not be riding Hondas.



Things keep changing from week to week.
Funny because the Jeffs motors are at C4MX right now getting ported and they are HONDAS.
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HuskyEd 11/2/2011 8:39pm
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wawazat wrote:
Thought Tony bactracked and said if Jeff rides a 250, it will be an RMZ?
HuskyEd wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/801,1227062 100% for sure Mike and Jeff will both be on 450 Suzukis. There’s a possibility that Jeff will ride East Coast Lites because he is...
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/801,1227062


100% for sure Mike and Jeff will both be on 450 Suzukis. There’s a possibility that Jeff will ride East Coast Lites because he is still eligible. If he does do that, he will be on a Honda 250. The whole look of the bikes, the color schemes, will be the same whether it’s the Suzuki or the Honda.
*Update Edit – Tony just contacted us to let us know that he misspoke and that Jeff will not be riding Hondas.



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mx295 wrote:
Funny because the Jeffs motors are at C4MX right now getting ported and they are HONDAS.
Good luck to Jeff no matter what he rides. Hope he does well this year and can stay injury free.Smile
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MotoConceptsFanboyz wrote:
Mike Genova's no dummy and his new program makes the most sense if you think about it for more than a second. As the manufacturers have...
Mike Genova's no dummy and his new program makes the most sense if you think about it for more than a second. As the manufacturers have slowly but surely cut their support down to warmed-over poop for most teams, why not let each rider race whatever brand they are fastest on?

With the right unique plastics and graphics on all the bikes, you can brand around MotoConcepts only and tell the manufacturers to go back to pushing paper in their overgrown bureaucracies. If I were Mike, I'd kindly inform the promoters that they can't even run the brand or brand color of bike for riders on his team on the lap ticker - instead I would demand they run whatever logo and color his team chooses. Go MotoConcepts!! To Infinity and beyond . . .
Because it makes testing really easy...

Hows your bike handle in the whoops? Nothing like yours.
MotoConceptsFanboyz 11/2/2011 9:07pm
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Because it makes testing really easy...

Hows your bike handle in the whoops? Nothing like yours.
Fail. Each rider and mechanic needs to do their OWN testing anyway or they will NOT get it right. Multiple brands don't change that requirement.

Bike setup is like fingerprints -- no two riders have or want it exactly the same. In fact, the more testing a rider does, the more individualized the setup will be for that rider, so of course the answer to your question should always be, "Nothing like yours . . ." You optimize for the rider and their individual results; not some milquetoast average that sub-optimizes all the riders on the team . . .
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MotoConceptsFanboyz wrote:
Fail. Each rider and mechanic needs to do their OWN testing anyway or they will NOT get it right. Multiple brands don't change that requirement. Bike...
Fail. Each rider and mechanic needs to do their OWN testing anyway or they will NOT get it right. Multiple brands don't change that requirement.

Bike setup is like fingerprints -- no two riders have or want it exactly the same. In fact, the more testing a rider does, the more individualized the setup will be for that rider, so of course the answer to your question should always be, "Nothing like yours . . ." You optimize for the rider and their individual results; not some milquetoast average that sub-optimizes all the riders on the team . . .
You think it's a good idea to run "multiple brands" on one team?
Are you the one ordering all the parts and keeping track of all the spares for each rider?
That would be a nightmare!
DavidVuillemin 11/2/2011 11:01pm
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What happened to Tuf Racing?
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MotoConceptsFanboyz wrote:
Mike Genova's no dummy and his new program makes the most sense if you think about it for more than a second. As the manufacturers have...
Mike Genova's no dummy and his new program makes the most sense if you think about it for more than a second. As the manufacturers have slowly but surely cut their support down to warmed-over poop for most teams, why not let each rider race whatever brand they are fastest on?

With the right unique plastics and graphics on all the bikes, you can brand around MotoConcepts only and tell the manufacturers to go back to pushing paper in their overgrown bureaucracies. If I were Mike, I'd kindly inform the promoters that they can't even run the brand or brand color of bike for riders on his team on the lap ticker - instead I would demand they run whatever logo and color his team chooses. Go MotoConcepts!! To Infinity and beyond . . .
The SX promoter had told the TV booth what they could and couldn't say in relation to the Joe Gibbs/Muscle Milk/ Toyota/Yamaha racing team, the were told to call the team JGR.....NO Muscle Milk. No offense to MotoConcepts or the owner, but he isn't going to inform the promoter of nothing. No one team is bigger than the sport, the TV production or Feld Ent, it doesn't matter how deep their pockets are, Gibbs was a prime example of that.

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I don't get the RMZ450 choice...I really don't.

I can only hope they got some kind of commitment from Suzuki.
williamsmotowerx 11/3/2011 12:07am
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What happened to Tuf Racing?
That's what I was wondering, and if varner lives on the Alessi compound?

Man this shit gets weird.
JayDoubleU 11/3/2011 3:55am
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I believe it... we know they aren't blue bike heads there are 4 vavles... and clearly in the middle or porting... look at the one on the far right! Nice and polished. I was in the Yellow teams shop a few times this year and saw the lights guys motors... holy shit... it gets me excited!
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exsarg 11/3/2011 7:04am
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who gives a shit what jeff allessi rides!!!
tyler durden 11/3/2011 12:47pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
I don't get the RMZ450 choice...I really don't.

I can only hope they got some kind of commitment from Suzuki.
Chalk it up to MA's mental game. The universe made him fast on it in '09. So therefore he shall be fast on the yellow steed once again.
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TeamGreen 11/3/2011 12:51pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
I don't get the RMZ450 choice...I really don't.

I can only hope they got some kind of commitment from Suzuki.
tyler durden wrote:
Chalk it up to MA's mental game. The universe made him fast on it in '09. So therefore he shall be fast on the yellow steed...
Chalk it up to MA's mental game. The universe made him fast on it in '09. So therefore he shall be fast on the yellow steed once again.
Funny-thing (Or not so funny)...

The 2012 KXF and CRF...shoulda tried those...

The other-thing: The Zook motor was built by Tuff/Ron H...and...IT WORKED!

I'm jus' not gettin' it; and, that's not unusual.
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downandup 11/3/2011 2:41pm
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exsarg wrote:
who gives a shit what jeff allessi rides!!!
x100 !!!
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Sherwood wrote:
Because it makes testing really easy...

Hows your bike handle in the whoops? Nothing like yours.
MotoConceptsFanboyz wrote:
Fail. Each rider and mechanic needs to do their OWN testing anyway or they will NOT get it right. Multiple brands don't change that requirement. Bike...
Fail. Each rider and mechanic needs to do their OWN testing anyway or they will NOT get it right. Multiple brands don't change that requirement.

Bike setup is like fingerprints -- no two riders have or want it exactly the same. In fact, the more testing a rider does, the more individualized the setup will be for that rider, so of course the answer to your question should always be, "Nothing like yours . . ." You optimize for the rider and their individual results; not some milquetoast average that sub-optimizes all the riders on the team . . .
Teams have tried the ride whatever brand you want deal in the past and it's always gone sour for the same reason. It's fun to say every riders setup is different but many teams and riders on the same brand have a very similar setup for a reason. Matter of fact Mike Alessi's best SX results came when Roger finally forced him to use almost the exact setup as another rider on his team...
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Sherwood wrote:
Because it makes testing really easy...

Hows your bike handle in the whoops? Nothing like yours.
MotoConceptsFanboyz wrote:
Fail. Each rider and mechanic needs to do their OWN testing anyway or they will NOT get it right. Multiple brands don't change that requirement. Bike...
Fail. Each rider and mechanic needs to do their OWN testing anyway or they will NOT get it right. Multiple brands don't change that requirement.

Bike setup is like fingerprints -- no two riders have or want it exactly the same. In fact, the more testing a rider does, the more individualized the setup will be for that rider, so of course the answer to your question should always be, "Nothing like yours . . ." You optimize for the rider and their individual results; not some milquetoast average that sub-optimizes all the riders on the team . . .
i kinda gotta agree with you on this one.

while it does make parts inventory easier to be on the same brand, i would think results matter more. and simply getting satellite support these days means a team has access to lease factory stuff. there isnt a whole lot of financial help.

motoconcepts is thinking outside the box. i kinda like it.

and considering a lot of rider feedback is pretty poor and they dont exactly work well together anyways, shared tech info can be overrated in mx imo.
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DavidVuillemin wrote:
What happened to Tuf Racing?
Partial RX MC Team race report QUOTE Taken: However, as those who know Mike Alessi, Tony Alessi, Mike Alessi’s Program Director

I think you have to ask the "program director" to be sure.
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It's all weird, but i do know who's motor was in MA's bike at MEC.not what u think. Happy MG at MC has kept his team going as long as he has. Did work for them in the past good owner good mechanics. Just need that X factor.
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tlrperf wrote:
It's all weird, but i do know who's motor was in MA's bike at MEC.not what u think. Happy MG at MC has kept his team...
It's all weird, but i do know who's motor was in MA's bike at MEC.not what u think. Happy MG at MC has kept his team going as long as he has. Did work for them in the past good owner good mechanics. Just need that X factor.
Terry Varner is doing Mikes bike..C4MX is doing the lites bikes.

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