Cruise input from Dave and everyone else

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I'm not a big cruise guy, have been on one short one, but the missus would like to try and put something together for a Vancouver/Seattle to Alaska cruise with our two adult kids and youngest, who's a HS sophomore, next summer.

Just about all the lines seem to do this. So, questions:

1) Which lines to avoid and which to count on for a great experience?

2) The general info seems to suggest the best time for this is May or September for the best combo of weather and crowds. Any personal experience on the Alaska/Inside Passage cruises from this or any other perspective?
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Michael, let me ask this, what do you want?

Party?
Sophisticated?
Pamper?
No kids?
Older fellow cruisers?


Give an idea of what you want and your expectations?
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Not interested in gambling, dancing late night, heavy drinking. Don't really need shows. The girls would probably like a spa, and basic work out stuff would be good. Don't need a lot of spoon fed, sit-down entertainment, but options would be nice.Like I said, I'm not really a cruise guy. Primary objectives are time together, spectacular scenery and the kind of all-in food/beverage amenities where options are pretty much always available (which I guess is a cruise Hallmark).

My own personal agenda beyond family time is to get close enough to Kodiak to get a chance to get off the boat and see the big bears. But that's secondary.
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OK, Carnival is out. Carnival is more party oriented, more activities and "how can we fill your day" oriented.

What you describe sounds more like something along the lines of Celebrity or Norwegian, maybe even Royal Caribbean.

I strongly suggest you hang around a website and forum called www.cruisecritic.com these people know their stuff and are hardcore cruisers....almost as nutty as moto people.

But I think Celebrity or Norwegian is up your alley. More laid back, more adult oriented, and while they have night clubs and stuff, it's not an all night party til you puke or get laid (or both) atmosphere. Both usually have nice extensive spas and are very laid back in general, but dinner services are a little more upscale and dressing for dinner is "a thing"

Check out cruise critic
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Ive done Carnival twice, never again. Loud, screaming kids running up and down the hallways all hours of the night. Ask the parents to tell their kids to keep it down and they basically told me, "Stay home, Carnival is a party ship...."

The ONLY way I will ever cruise again if its an adult only cruise line.

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so is carnival a good place for adult "kids" or not?

from daves description, im ready to buy a ticket tomorrow.

from racer92's, it sounds like circus circus.
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Carnival is the party boat. Lots of stuff to do, lots of clubs, lots of night life, but also lots of kids.
I will say this, their food is damn good. Better than Royal, not by a large margin, but is better.
Carnival has tried to play down the party boat reputation, but it's there. Drink, dance, stagger back to cabin, sleep, go see some port, nap, party, dance, sleep and start over again.
Not casual by any means.....Carnival is go go go go go

You can be mellow if you want, like my parents, but it is the party boat
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Sickest week of my life was on a Carnival cruise. Not sea sick, viral flu. I know Dave has posted about his nice trips through the Caribbean, which I am sure are much nicer. I did five days down to Mexico and back and I found all the guests rude, filthy, disgusting and just plain WTF! The crew was more unhappy than anyone I have every run into in hospitality. Basically I would had rather burn the money my fingers along with them.

The only advice I can give is, pay for the room with the sliding glass door so you have your own balcony. The fresh air would have been a huge difference in my trip, and trying to avoid 2500 people really isn't easy. We had a window, but it didnt open and the floor was a nightmare of ahole people.
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We went on holland for our honeymoon....was a great time!
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I am not experienced here bet every older person I know has taken an Alaskan cruise or two and from what I gathered they all seemed much more low key than say a Caribbean cruise. You cant exactly have a good time on deck or in the pool in Alaska.
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I lived in Vancouver for 25 years. Avoid May unless you like rain. September, especially the first two weeks, can be some of the nicest weather of the year. You'll probably see more calving of the glaciers if that's one of the things you're hoping for in later summer than the early spring too.
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Rooster wrote:
I lived in Vancouver for 25 years. Avoid May unless you like rain. September, especially the first two weeks, can be some of the nicest weather...
I lived in Vancouver for 25 years. Avoid May unless you like rain. September, especially the first two weeks, can be some of the nicest weather of the year. You'll probably see more calving of the glaciers if that's one of the things you're hoping for in later summer than the early spring too.
Thanks all.

Rooster, actually all of my family is from Vancouver and BC generally (my youngest sister and I the only ones born down south). My folks came to Cali basically because they wanted away from six months of gray, rain and slush. The weather I am looking for primarily is the Alaska end with Vancouver a port of call. I love Vancouver, been there tons, and have been there in all sorts of weather enough that I really don't think about it (but damn the nice days are spectacular there).
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late may in alaska ..... looong days .... huge amount of golden hour light for photos .
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flarider wrote:
Carnival is the party boat. Lots of stuff to do, lots of clubs, lots of night life, but also lots of kids. I will say this...
Carnival is the party boat. Lots of stuff to do, lots of clubs, lots of night life, but also lots of kids.
I will say this, their food is damn good. Better than Royal, not by a large margin, but is better.
Carnival has tried to play down the party boat reputation, but it's there. Drink, dance, stagger back to cabin, sleep, go see some port, nap, party, dance, sleep and start over again.
Not casual by any means.....Carnival is go go go go go

You can be mellow if you want, like my parents, but it is the party boat
Perfect summary. Carnival is NOT about a laid back, relaxing cruise at sea. Its like being trapped in a shopping mall 2 weeks before Christmas, but half of everyone there is drunk or will be drunk before days end.
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I only went on one cruise. To Ensenada. I almost decided to live in Mexico rather than get back on that fucking ship. I hope you're better with crowds and lines than I am.
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Carnival's Mexico cruises are their older ships, no secret there. Those are really party boats with short run, few night, cruises.

BTW Michael, spring for the balcony cabins, especially for an Alaskan cruise. Nothing like waking up, and sitting on your private balcony in your robe, having a cup of coffee and a danish, just relaxing...your own private world
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Thanks all! Very helpful info.
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Rooster wrote:
I lived in Vancouver for 25 years. Avoid May unless you like rain. September, especially the first two weeks, can be some of the nicest weather...
I lived in Vancouver for 25 years. Avoid May unless you like rain. September, especially the first two weeks, can be some of the nicest weather of the year. You'll probably see more calving of the glaciers if that's one of the things you're hoping for in later summer than the early spring too.
Thanks all. Rooster, actually all of my family is from Vancouver and BC generally (my youngest sister and I the only ones born down south). My...
Thanks all.

Rooster, actually all of my family is from Vancouver and BC generally (my youngest sister and I the only ones born down south). My folks came to Cali basically because they wanted away from six months of gray, rain and slush. The weather I am looking for primarily is the Alaska end with Vancouver a port of call. I love Vancouver, been there tons, and have been there in all sorts of weather enough that I really don't think about it (but damn the nice days are spectacular there).
I moved to Alberta to escape the gray. It's much more than 6 months of grey a year, but yes those nice days are absolutely spectacular. Almost enough to make to you forget you haven't seen the sun in 3 weeks.

I had forgotten you were a closet Canadian. Can't say I blame you for moving south. The weather in California is too nice to pass up. I bought a place in Palm Desert last year to escape the snow here in Alberta. Can't say I'd make a permanent move, but it's a great place in the winter months when home is buried 5 feet under the white stuff.
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I'm not a big cruise guy, have been on one short one, but the missus would like to try and put something together for a Vancouver/Seattle...
I'm not a big cruise guy, have been on one short one, but the missus would like to try and put something together for a Vancouver/Seattle to Alaska cruise with our two adult kids and youngest, who's a HS sophomore, next summer.

Just about all the lines seem to do this. So, questions:

1) Which lines to avoid and which to count on for a great experience?

2) The general info seems to suggest the best time for this is May or September for the best combo of weather and crowds. Any personal experience on the Alaska/Inside Passage cruises from this or any other perspective?
I did Caribbean for 2 weeks on Royal Caribbean loved it, I have friends who are cruise junkies they say the best and most beautiful is Alaska !! oh 2nd is Mediterranean too !

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I did Caribbean for 2 weeks on Royal Caribbean loved it, I have friends who are cruise junkies they say the best and most beautiful is...
I did Caribbean for 2 weeks on Royal Caribbean loved it, I have friends who are cruise junkies they say the best and most beautiful is Alaska !! oh 2nd is Mediterranean too !

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Sondra, many kids on that cruise? Party animals making racket in the passage-ways to your stateroom late at night?
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I did Caribbean for 2 weeks on Royal Caribbean loved it, I have friends who are cruise junkies they say the best and most beautiful is...
I did Caribbean for 2 weeks on Royal Caribbean loved it, I have friends who are cruise junkies they say the best and most beautiful is Alaska !! oh 2nd is Mediterranean too !

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Sondra, many kids on that cruise? Party animals making racket in the passage-ways to your stateroom late at night?
Trust me it was all newlyweds who never came out and older people, I was 21 at the time, the next closest person to my age was one 16 year old, who I still talk to and a 33 year old who I still talk to haha and the only people my age were the crew and we partied but only off the ship, the employees are not allowed to fraternize with the clients. Oh and two other guys my age on the cruise were the Hellman's (best foods mayonnaise) grand sons, their bar bill alone was the cost of my 2 week cruise haha, we drank a lot for sure and it was so nice and relaxing and not loud at all. RC is a high end cruise, it's pricey but worth it, no kids really !!

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Royal has less kids. Some, but less.
Carnival and Disney is kidsville

Royal is less then as you go through Celebrity, Norwegian and the like, it gets less and less.
Once you get to Seabourn and Cunard, kids are non-existant
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flarider wrote:
Royal has less kids. Some, but less. Carnival and Disney is kidsville Royal is less then as you go through Celebrity, Norwegian and the like, it...
Royal has less kids. Some, but less.
Carnival and Disney is kidsville

Royal is less then as you go through Celebrity, Norwegian and the like, it gets less and less.
Once you get to Seabourn and Cunard, kids are non-existant
Sondra, thanks for the input.

Dave, you kinda lost me on what you said, "go thru Celebrity ?" Can you dumb all that down so a Texan can understand?
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flarider wrote:
Royal has less kids. Some, but less. Carnival and Disney is kidsville Royal is less then as you go through Celebrity, Norwegian and the like, it...
Royal has less kids. Some, but less.
Carnival and Disney is kidsville

Royal is less then as you go through Celebrity, Norwegian and the like, it gets less and less.
Once you get to Seabourn and Cunard, kids are non-existant
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Sondra, thanks for the input. Dave, you kinda lost me on what you said, "go thru Celebrity ?" Can you dumb all that down so a...
Sondra, thanks for the input.

Dave, you kinda lost me on what you said, "go thru Celebrity ?" Can you dumb all that down so a Texan can understand?
he's saying as the money gets higher for the cruise less kids, carnival and disney are cheaper cruises hence the kids and geared towards them, the others he listed are pricier, so no little bambinos Wink

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Correct, but Disney ain't cheap, it's expensive as hell, but it's totally kid oriented....don't even have a casino! The horror!
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Rooster wrote:
I lived in Vancouver for 25 years. Avoid May unless you like rain. September, especially the first two weeks, can be some of the nicest weather...
I lived in Vancouver for 25 years. Avoid May unless you like rain. September, especially the first two weeks, can be some of the nicest weather of the year. You'll probably see more calving of the glaciers if that's one of the things you're hoping for in later summer than the early spring too.
Thanks all. Rooster, actually all of my family is from Vancouver and BC generally (my youngest sister and I the only ones born down south). My...
Thanks all.

Rooster, actually all of my family is from Vancouver and BC generally (my youngest sister and I the only ones born down south). My folks came to Cali basically because they wanted away from six months of gray, rain and slush. The weather I am looking for primarily is the Alaska end with Vancouver a port of call. I love Vancouver, been there tons, and have been there in all sorts of weather enough that I really don't think about it (but damn the nice days are spectacular there).
Rooster wrote:
I moved to Alberta to escape the gray. It's much more than 6 months of grey a year, but yes those nice days are absolutely spectacular...
I moved to Alberta to escape the gray. It's much more than 6 months of grey a year, but yes those nice days are absolutely spectacular. Almost enough to make to you forget you haven't seen the sun in 3 weeks.

I had forgotten you were a closet Canadian. Can't say I blame you for moving south. The weather in California is too nice to pass up. I bought a place in Palm Desert last year to escape the snow here in Alberta. Can't say I'd make a permanent move, but it's a great place in the winter months when home is buried 5 feet under the white stuff.
What's ironic is we ended up in the east bay hills right where the fog slams after coming in the Golden Gate, and a good bit of the summer was slammed with fog in our neighborhood.

My dad spent a good part of his childhood north of Edmonton, first in the 20's as a young boy in a coal town that I don't think exists any longer ("Cardiff"), and then for a winter in the 30's on a 160 acres near Bonneyville when my granddad decided to homestead. A little chilly there.
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My wife and I did a Norwegian Alaska cruise. It was amazing. We've done about 5 cruises and that was by far my favorite. The weather was perfect. The sights were amazing. I went dog sledding and they guy took me off by myself and we hit a separate section with whoops. Not sure about you money situation but try whatever you can to make sure you get a balcony. I'll never forget waking up and looking out at a glacier.




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I'm surprised no one mentioned Princess. The other cruise lines are catching up but they use many of Princess's hotels, buses, train cars. They do have formal nights but their open dining format allows you to eat on your own schedule. My wife and I (no kids) did a cruise/tour in June a couple of years ago. I'm glad we did the land part first as you are moving from place to place each day. While adding to the expensive, it's the picking of the excursions that customize the trip for you. We did mt. bike rides, nature walks though there's fishing, jet boats, jeep and atv rides. Some are kind of touresty and we wanted to try and capture the natural part of it. Temps were in the 60's. The ship had indoor pool/hot tubs. I highly recommend a balcony. Also notice room selection, since we traveled from north to south, we wanted a room on the left side of the ship. Going north you'd probably want the right side. Though they move the ship around for viewing glaciers, etc., you can usually tell which side will have better views while traveling by seeing how quickley that side is booked. (look at earlier sailings) The cruise portion is more relaxing. My wife is a packing expert so we had gear for any conditions. Even shorts for when it was 80 in Anchorage.
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i have never been on a bad cruise......been on about 20

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