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Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news: After the warm-up practice on Sunday morning, all three Team USA riders signed autographs for fans at their respective pit areas. No one was together, as they were all working out of different rigs, but Jeff Canfield of the AMA and MX Sports helped pull it together. I was not there as I was meeting with a fellow promoter in another part of the facility. The riders did not give away a lot of plastic or goggles because they had none to give.

After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

After all that, it was pretty much dark, and time to eat dinner and celebrate, which they did at Alpinestars, along with all of the GP riders and teams that were invited in by Alpinestars.

And I was at St. Jean D'Angeley with Travis Pastrana in 2000 and he did not stay and sign every single autograph. No one can when there are thousands of people there. So please give these guys a break. It's a long day, a tough race, and they have lots of official requirements for the promoter, the FIM, the press and their own teams. Oh, and they had to focus some of their time on actually winning the race on different bikes than what they have at home, and that includes talking to mechanics, tire guys, goggle guys, team managers, parents, girlfriends, fellow riders, whatever.

Calling them out for being serious and focused on race day is really kind of strange to me, especially since they did sign autographs, but the original poster just wasn't there at the time to get the attention he hoped for. The Americans pay their own way over, there is no prize money, and the race is not on TV in America, yet they still come and give it their all, yet it's still not enough...

Next year Racer X will try to help out and make a Team USA poster or something to help out, but when it's all spread out and everyone is scrambling to win and do all of the things the race requires, there's just not enough time in the day.

But flame on, let's ruin a good win and a great day of racing somehow.

DC
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Fuck that... DC. The rider do not owe the fans in Europe or the US anything. As a fan, I expect them to put on a great race during the event. If Chad Reed wants to sign autographs for hours, he can. He should never feel obligated by fans.

This "owe me" attitude is bullshit. This also leads to the banner stealing and begging for rider gear after events.
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I have the Solution, Lets not go.
They do the same shit in the US. Look at what fans do to Bubba.
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do people really get upset when they dont get handed plastics and/or googles??...wtf??

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No one can sign autographs all day, and at least in the other thread on this, that's my stand.

IMO set up a autograph session advertise it, and whoever comes its all good. Those who miss it OH WELL. I didn't go to the MXdN this year so I can only speculate when others say the american riders blew the fans off. They (riders) don't have to sign anything if they don't want to, but at least set up something for the fans. For most europeans that will be the only time they get to see an american rider up close in their lifetime.

From your post DC, it looks like they did sign autographs, for however long that was. Whoever didn't get a chance to be there too bad.
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Here's another thought, crank this forward to minute 14 and look at the interaction with the fans from 06, and then think of how the promoters minimized the team's accomplishment at the race and how people from overseas have absolutely shit on Stewart since then about that race.

Anyone having any complaints about team USA in the MXdN, how about you just go screw yourself.

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9/20/2011 1:12pm
I think DC should just dress up in a larger-than-life Dungey costume (you know... like the one McGrath used to have at the supercross races back when he was on a Yamaha) and take over autograph responsibilities... just add it to your race day to-do list Wink . Oh, and regarding the other two US teammates... Weege can be Bagget and Fro can be Villopoto!
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Let's get the Warthog to MC the autograph session at Lommel. Yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.
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Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news

Are there that many people who get butt hurt about everything Team USA does or doesn't do, or just the usual few village idiots who have something to complain about everything?
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Let's get the Warthog to MC the autograph session at Lommel. Yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.
How about let's not.
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"You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the the time" ...A. Lincoln

I'd say you're in pretty good company DC
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9/20/2011 1:42pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2011 1:43pm
Let's get the Warthog to MC the autograph session at Lommel. Yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.
You trying to start another World War? Shocked

Could always send Danny Dolan over there and TerryK to baby sit him while he is abroad. Smile
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Let's get the Warthog to MC the autograph session at Lommel. Yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.
GuyB wrote:
How about let's not.
Well, think about it. He wouldn't be on the board. Then, or perhaps ever again.
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DC, just an idea.....



These were pretty damn cool and framed up made excellent X-Mas gifts. These sticker kits could be sold at the race for a minimal fee if allowed. Or just have a graphics company sponsor them and hand them out for free.

How about autographed hats or T shirts that could be SOLD ahead of time or at the race to satisfy everyone who feels they need something personal?Don't price gouge, just offer them up at the regular outlandish price that hats and T shirts go for on raceday.Smile

That's a long flight over, how about the guys use the time to autograph a healthy stack of handout photos (don't have to be poster size) or team decals as mentioned/shown above? This way the guys don't always have to be available for autograph sessions.

I'm sure plenty of people will still find fault, but it's a thought.
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DC, just an idea..... [img]http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt171/duc-man97/motorhome.jpg[/img] These were pretty damn cool and framed up made excellent X-Mas gifts. These sticker kits could be sold at the race...
DC, just an idea.....



These were pretty damn cool and framed up made excellent X-Mas gifts. These sticker kits could be sold at the race for a minimal fee if allowed. Or just have a graphics company sponsor them and hand them out for free.

How about autographed hats or T shirts that could be SOLD ahead of time or at the race to satisfy everyone who feels they need something personal?Don't price gouge, just offer them up at the regular outlandish price that hats and T shirts go for on raceday.Smile

That's a long flight over, how about the guys use the time to autograph a healthy stack of handout photos (don't have to be poster size) or team decals as mentioned/shown above? This way the guys don't always have to be available for autograph sessions.

I'm sure plenty of people will still find fault, but it's a thought.
that's pretty bad ass, but what makes autographs cool to me is getting them in person
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mjskier wrote:
[b]Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders...
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news

Are there that many people who get butt hurt about everything Team USA does or doesn't do, or just the usual few village idiots who have something to complain about everything?
Just a few.
99% of the Euro fans loves to have team USA and the other AMA riders at the MXdN.

Wait, make that 100% but there's maybe 1% of people which in some way did not get what they hoped for and go home disappointed.
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9/20/2011 2:15pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2011 2:16pm
Here's another thought, crank this forward to minute 14 and look at the interaction with the fans from 06, and then think of how the promoters...
Here's another thought, crank this forward to minute 14 and look at the interaction with the fans from 06, and then think of how the promoters minimized the team's accomplishment at the race and how people from overseas have absolutely shit on Stewart since then about that race.

Anyone having any complaints about team USA in the MXdN, how about you just go screw yourself.

But then after the podium they got out with a car like we were going to linch them wile Stefan Everts walked through us shaking hands.

It felt like they were like soldiers on a mission and didn't care about us at all.

That's why the video surprised me. I'm starting to understand. It's just a diferent way of doing things. In america they are used to interact with fans for scheduled limited time while in europe do all the time. It's no disrespet to us, thats the way they act back home too?

Is that correct?

I, for one, think they were more "close" to the people than ever this weekend. I even saw Dungey sign a box of cigarretes, I was like wtf is this idiot (the fan) doing.
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Here's another thought, crank this forward to minute 14 and look at the interaction with the fans from 06, and then think of how the promoters...
Here's another thought, crank this forward to minute 14 and look at the interaction with the fans from 06, and then think of how the promoters minimized the team's accomplishment at the race and how people from overseas have absolutely shit on Stewart since then about that race.

Anyone having any complaints about team USA in the MXdN, how about you just go screw yourself.

Man, I want THAT James back.
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Man, I want THAT James back.
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DC wrote:
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders...
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news: After the warm-up practice on Sunday morning, all three Team USA riders signed autographs for fans at their respective pit areas. No one was together, as they were all working out of different rigs, but Jeff Canfield of the AMA and MX Sports helped pull it together. I was not there as I was meeting with a fellow promoter in another part of the facility. The riders did not give away a lot of plastic or goggles because they had none to give.

After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

After all that, it was pretty much dark, and time to eat dinner and celebrate, which they did at Alpinestars, along with all of the GP riders and teams that were invited in by Alpinestars.

And I was at St. Jean D'Angeley with Travis Pastrana in 2000 and he did not stay and sign every single autograph. No one can when there are thousands of people there. So please give these guys a break. It's a long day, a tough race, and they have lots of official requirements for the promoter, the FIM, the press and their own teams. Oh, and they had to focus some of their time on actually winning the race on different bikes than what they have at home, and that includes talking to mechanics, tire guys, goggle guys, team managers, parents, girlfriends, fellow riders, whatever.

Calling them out for being serious and focused on race day is really kind of strange to me, especially since they did sign autographs, but the original poster just wasn't there at the time to get the attention he hoped for. The Americans pay their own way over, there is no prize money, and the race is not on TV in America, yet they still come and give it their all, yet it's still not enough...

Next year Racer X will try to help out and make a Team USA poster or something to help out, but when it's all spread out and everyone is scrambling to win and do all of the things the race requires, there's just not enough time in the day.

But flame on, let's ruin a good win and a great day of racing somehow.

DC
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After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

Uhm did you guys got already the results from that dope test?? A friend of mine (GP Rider) got one in the Belgian GP in Lommel he had to wait one 10 days for the results... Then a fellow cyclist of mine rides a B class here and he got a dope control also and he had to wait a little month before he had his results!! You guys have the results within 72 hours?? Special US/AMA treatment??
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DC wrote:
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders...
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news: After the warm-up practice on Sunday morning, all three Team USA riders signed autographs for fans at their respective pit areas. No one was together, as they were all working out of different rigs, but Jeff Canfield of the AMA and MX Sports helped pull it together. I was not there as I was meeting with a fellow promoter in another part of the facility. The riders did not give away a lot of plastic or goggles because they had none to give.

After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

After all that, it was pretty much dark, and time to eat dinner and celebrate, which they did at Alpinestars, along with all of the GP riders and teams that were invited in by Alpinestars.

And I was at St. Jean D'Angeley with Travis Pastrana in 2000 and he did not stay and sign every single autograph. No one can when there are thousands of people there. So please give these guys a break. It's a long day, a tough race, and they have lots of official requirements for the promoter, the FIM, the press and their own teams. Oh, and they had to focus some of their time on actually winning the race on different bikes than what they have at home, and that includes talking to mechanics, tire guys, goggle guys, team managers, parents, girlfriends, fellow riders, whatever.

Calling them out for being serious and focused on race day is really kind of strange to me, especially since they did sign autographs, but the original poster just wasn't there at the time to get the attention he hoped for. The Americans pay their own way over, there is no prize money, and the race is not on TV in America, yet they still come and give it their all, yet it's still not enough...

Next year Racer X will try to help out and make a Team USA poster or something to help out, but when it's all spread out and everyone is scrambling to win and do all of the things the race requires, there's just not enough time in the day.

But flame on, let's ruin a good win and a great day of racing somehow.

DC
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"Calling them out for being serious and focused on race day is really kind of strange to me"

No one called them out for that, just for the after the race autograph signing. If someone went to the race in hopes to get an autograph and didn't then it needs to be communicated when and where then you would avoid the impression that the Americans just hide out which is the real complaint it would appear.

"Next year Racer X will try to help out and make a Team USA poster or something to help out, but when it's all spread out and everyone is scrambling to win and do all of the things the race requires, there's just not enough time in the day.

"Well, you make time for your fans. This is stepping up on your part and if you are able to do it that would be great. Perhaps if you can post on the internet the autograph session times and places, then people won't complain and be able to see the riders. If this was done or was anounced over the intercom it would seem as though some did not get the message.

In the US, I have never seen it as an issue and the riders always do autograph sessions in the races I went to. I have no beef with any of the riders in the US races, they are always willing to sign autographs. They even do signings at dealerships well advanced of the event and at some other events. I think they do a great job in the US. Maybe they can do a little better in the MXON with the help of DC
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DC wrote:
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders...
Now that everyone who feels slighted about not getting an autograph after the race has had a chance to insult all of the Team USA riders, here's some news: After the warm-up practice on Sunday morning, all three Team USA riders signed autographs for fans at their respective pit areas. No one was together, as they were all working out of different rigs, but Jeff Canfield of the AMA and MX Sports helped pull it together. I was not there as I was meeting with a fellow promoter in another part of the facility. The riders did not give away a lot of plastic or goggles because they had none to give.

After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

After all that, it was pretty much dark, and time to eat dinner and celebrate, which they did at Alpinestars, along with all of the GP riders and teams that were invited in by Alpinestars.

And I was at St. Jean D'Angeley with Travis Pastrana in 2000 and he did not stay and sign every single autograph. No one can when there are thousands of people there. So please give these guys a break. It's a long day, a tough race, and they have lots of official requirements for the promoter, the FIM, the press and their own teams. Oh, and they had to focus some of their time on actually winning the race on different bikes than what they have at home, and that includes talking to mechanics, tire guys, goggle guys, team managers, parents, girlfriends, fellow riders, whatever.

Calling them out for being serious and focused on race day is really kind of strange to me, especially since they did sign autographs, but the original poster just wasn't there at the time to get the attention he hoped for. The Americans pay their own way over, there is no prize money, and the race is not on TV in America, yet they still come and give it their all, yet it's still not enough...

Next year Racer X will try to help out and make a Team USA poster or something to help out, but when it's all spread out and everyone is scrambling to win and do all of the things the race requires, there's just not enough time in the day.

But flame on, let's ruin a good win and a great day of racing somehow.

DC
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MXMattii wrote:
[b]After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes...
After the race they did the podium thing, which took about a half hour, then they went to the press conference, which was another 45 minutes, and then they all had to go into a room and take a urine test for the FIM (they all passed, guess their aim is true).

Uhm did you guys got already the results from that dope test?? A friend of mine (GP Rider) got one in the Belgian GP in Lommel he had to wait one 10 days for the results... Then a fellow cyclist of mine rides a B class here and he got a dope control also and he had to wait a little month before he had his results!! You guys have the results within 72 hours?? Special US/AMA treatment??
You always seem to be out to get someone. Let it go, man.

I have spent two days trying to say what DC just said, so all I'll say is "I agree".
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newmann wrote:
DC, just an idea..... [img]http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt171/duc-man97/motorhome.jpg[/img] These were pretty damn cool and framed up made excellent X-Mas gifts. These sticker kits could be sold at the race...
DC, just an idea.....



These were pretty damn cool and framed up made excellent X-Mas gifts. These sticker kits could be sold at the race for a minimal fee if allowed. Or just have a graphics company sponsor them and hand them out for free.

How about autographed hats or T shirts that could be SOLD ahead of time or at the race to satisfy everyone who feels they need something personal?Don't price gouge, just offer them up at the regular outlandish price that hats and T shirts go for on raceday.Smile

That's a long flight over, how about the guys use the time to autograph a healthy stack of handout photos (don't have to be poster size) or team decals as mentioned/shown above? This way the guys don't always have to be available for autograph sessions.

I'm sure plenty of people will still find fault, but it's a thought.
DC,

I have the signed sticker set that you offered in 2000 to support the team. That was a great idea and it supported the team. Can you do something like that again. Cheers!
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that's pretty bad ass, but what makes autographs cool to me is getting them in person
No doubt that's what some people want, but not everyone wants to be a pain in the riders ass when there are 20,000 people in line for a thirty minute to one hour autograph session. Might help to eliminate some butt hurtedness amongst the fickle fans. Not enough to go win the race, gotta win the personality contest too. Couldn't hurt the marketing power of the athlete could it?
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You always seem to be out to get someone. Let it go, man. I have spent two days trying to say what DC just said, so...
You always seem to be out to get someone. Let it go, man.

I have spent two days trying to say what DC just said, so all I'll say is "I agree".
Matti is one of the pure assholes here. He contributes nothing but bullshit and piss. His can should be kicked to the curb as fast as WW was,
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I would try to explain to Matti that "passing a urine test " is an old joke and a play on words, as in "passing urine," and having good aim means your aim is true, and, and....

Oh hell, what would be the point?

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9/20/2011 3:35pm Edited Date/Time 9/20/2011 3:36pm
Switch wrote:
You always seem to be out to get someone. Let it go, man. I have spent two days trying to say what DC just said, so...
You always seem to be out to get someone. Let it go, man.

I have spent two days trying to say what DC just said, so all I'll say is "I agree".
Matti is one of the pure assholes here. He contributes nothing but bullshit and piss. His can should be kicked to the curb as fast as...
Matti is one of the pure assholes here. He contributes nothing but bullshit and piss. His can should be kicked to the curb as fast as WW was,
That stuff definatley gets old fast. In the grand scheme of things, its just a race. American fans will say they beat the best in the world, the "world" fans will say they didn't offer their best due to injury. Same shit every year, I'm just glad our guys are offered the chance to compete on that stage. If that race ever makes it to RedBud....look out.

Glad to see a guy like DC relaying what he saw over there. With it being over 20 hours just to get from the track from the US, I'm sure eyewitnesses aren't exactly on the American side of things...
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I would try to explain to Matti that "passing a urine test " is an old joke and a play on words, as in "passing urine,"...
I would try to explain to Matti that "passing a urine test " is an old joke and a play on words, as in "passing urine," and having good aim means your aim is true, and, and....

Oh hell, what would be the point?

DC
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I didn't get the joke. In case you didn't notice English isn't my first language Tongue So I let it go.
Please don't feel attacked by it, it was just a question without any shit behind it. A question to know if France handles off there test faster. But it seems like some will search shit behind everything I say, isn't it ONE1FIVE
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Here's another thought, crank this forward to minute 14 and look at the interaction with the fans from 06, and then think of how the promoters...
Here's another thought, crank this forward to minute 14 and look at the interaction with the fans from 06, and then think of how the promoters minimized the team's accomplishment at the race and how people from overseas have absolutely shit on Stewart since then about that race.

Anyone having any complaints about team USA in the MXdN, how about you just go screw yourself.

Amen

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